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Scott Family Farms 2023 releases . . .

zSkeletoRz

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I don't think that is Reeferman. Reeferman was active in the 90's which would put him at 50+ years of age. That fellow looks 35 - 40. Anyway, if it is him, I'm not interested in dealing with a white supremacist. I've said previously I would only purchase his seeds if I could get them from a reputable Canadian seed bank. So far, I've not seen any Scott Family Farms gear at any of my "go to" seed suppliers. OSG was a bust for me and there is enough reputable seeds available to see me to the end of my growing days. GLTA
That is 100% Charles Scott, aka Reeferman. It's an old video from back when Charles was a proud white supremacist.
 

William76

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The people that run these seed scams know that half the folk ordering seeds don't want it known their growing so can't really complain to anyone. (certainly not the authoritys),76
 

hamstring

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I'm sure his views of people have 100% changed.:cautious: Or -----maybe he just looks around before saying something racist.

My god these types of guys are always looking for a unscrupulous way to make a living because they don't fit in to or don't want to fit into society.

So he snitched on the hate group, was it to save his own ass? Geeze, this is life story for every motorcycle gang, hate group, survivalist, anti-whatever . Its always someone else's fault.
 

RobFromTX

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Hes simply riding out a once great reputation as long as he can to make as much money as he can off of it. nothing rare about that

A hate group to me is also folks endangering the lives of the people that deliver my seeds. Im in america though. Anti-fascists groups here certainly don't mind doing collateral damage to get their point across. whatever it may be
 
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goingrey

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I'm sure his views of people have 100% changed.:cautious: Or -----maybe he just looks around before saying something racist.

My god these types of guys are always looking for a unscrupulous way to make a living because they don't fit in to or don't want to fit into society.

So he snitched on the hate group, was it to save his own ass? Geeze, this is life story for every motorcycle gang, hate group, survivalist, anti-whatever . Its always someone else's fault.
People can and must be allowed to change for the better. Never seen him post racist things as Reeferman.

The seed biz problems are unfortunate.

edit: not quite paperwork but he talks about the snitching in this book https://archive.org/details/budincinsidecana0000mulg/mode/2up
 
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hamstring

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I think you mean Pastor Charles Scott. Sounds like Canada has the same tax laws for religions as the US.

This guy is a hoot, who's the pastor of the anti-fascists groups? Maybe its Pastor Charles Scott now. He has completely changed his thinking. ;) Still doesn't have to pay taxes.

The complaints state:

We, the Chilliwack Anti-racism Project Society, have reasonable grounds to believe that Pastor Charles Scott [or the Church of Christ in Israel, as the case may be] discriminates against non-white and Jewish persons on the grounds of colour, national or ethnic origin, race, and religion, by causing to be communicated telephonic messages which expose them to hatred and contempt, contrary to section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act.

On March 1, 1995, telephone number (614) 795-5835 provided a message claiming that this country was built by white people and that minorities, non-white crime, and racial treason are ruining this nation. The speaker introduced himself as Pastor Charles Scott. The message claims that the Church of Christ in Israel is laying the groundwork for a revolution which will return power to the white race. The message goes on to relay the organizations desire to wipe out Zionism and "every kike who supports it throughout the free world."
 

J0sh1

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A guy who used to be racist, then became a racist pastor, that same guy was welcomed with open arms in the canna community and at some point was respected and admired. People can change, Pastor Charles Scott sure did, I hope the best for him but in my head DEEP Seated hate like racisms isn't something that people truly shake off. That shit always stays even if its not spoken out loud.

At one point, many years back I really wanted to score some REEFERMAN genetics especially the Cherry Bomb... Im glad I never supported this guy.
 

hamstring

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You can take the man out of the farm but not the farm out of the man, apple don,t fall far from the tree

Most of our values are started at childhood.

Anyone can change, but most don't. All that childhood learning still lies just below the surface/facade that they have so diligently built.

I do't have a problem with people buying his seeds, thats their prerogative but I see a very clear pattern of narcissism. None of the seeds delivery issues are his fault.
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RobFromTX

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Lol the Church of Christ and Judaism are on two completely different wavelengths. Must be a local thing there. My grandparents were Church of Christ and it was in no way shape or form associated with Israel
 

Tynehead Tom

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I'm 54 and reef is a couple years older than me I think. I did not recall meeting him at any point but I was reminded by a friend that I did in fact meet him at a mutual friend's party in the late 90's.
I don't recall that but I remember the party and lots of growers were there including my mentor as he threw the party.
Now I could wrong but it was always my understanding that before he became reeferman , he was in marc emery's catalog as Prairie Fire seeds. When he relocated from the farm in saskatchewan ( I think) to the BC lowermainland, he became Reeferman Seeds. Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I do believe that is how it went down. Prairie Fire was around in the early 2000's and I don't recall any mention of Reeferman in our lowermainland grow scene in the 90's or the 2000's. Now Scott Family Farms has been a landmark on the Surrey/Langley border where I grew up. It is a large agriculture property with huge signs I've driven by countless times. Not sure if that is reef's family but when I mentioned it to him a handful of years ago , he got all wierd asking me how I knew so much about his past. That was the time when he was here and preparing to leave for jamaica and was meeting people to sell packs of seed before he left. I never did get those seeds though I chased the guy all over the lowermainland that day/night.
I left the scene for 10 years starting in 2005 and paid no attention to the weed scene/community at all , especially online. I came back in late 2015 and everything that happened needed to be learned. So a lot happened in that 10 years.
When I came back I joined this site and a whole lot of people both online and off told me to steer far and wide of oldschoolba..... and medman.
LOL
 

zSkeletoRz

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I'm 54 and reef is a couple years older than me I think. I did not recall meeting him at any point but I was reminded by a friend that I did in fact meet him at a mutual friend's party in the late 90's.
I don't recall that but I remember the party and lots of growers were there including my mentor as he threw the party.
Now I could wrong but it was always my understanding that before he became reeferman , he was in marc emery's catalog as Prairie Fire seeds. When he relocated from the farm in saskatchewan ( I think) to the BC lowermainland, he became Reeferman Seeds. Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I do believe that is how it went down. Prairie Fire was around in the early 2000's and I don't recall any mention of Reeferman in our lowermainland grow scene in the 90's or the 2000's. Now Scott Family Farms has been a landmark on the Surrey/Langley border where I grew up. It is a large agriculture property with huge signs I've driven by countless times. Not sure if that is reef's family but when I mentioned it to him a handful of years ago , he got all wierd asking me how I knew so much about his past. That was the time when he was here and preparing to leave for jamaica and was meeting people to sell packs of seed before he left. I never did get those seeds though I chased the guy all over the lowermainland that day/night.
I left the scene for 10 years starting in 2005 and paid no attention to the weed scene/community at all , especially online. I came back in late 2015 and everything that happened needed to be learned. So a lot happened in that 10 years.
When I came back I joined this site and a whole lot of people both online and off told me to steer far and wide of oldschoolba..... and medman.
LOL
So far, oldschoolba and medman are far ahead of Charles in reputation, as far as I'm concerned.

Still waiting on those seeds I paid Charles for in March.
 

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