scorpion juice & colossal bud blast foliar spray strength?

[TREE KING]

i just started growing again so i forgot how much per gallon to use but the one thing i remember is that people were saying its better to go light when it comes to foliar sprays. i want to start spraying my plants soon and there only 2-3 inches tall but i wanna make sure i dont burn the plants. how many ml should i mix these at per gallon guys?

 

[toohighmf]

no need for scorpion juice in veg if ever. colossal bus blast should be used 3-5ml/gal. good stuff.. even for AN. it's off the market so it probably stinks to high heaven but organic and amoniacle nitrogen will green up and excelerate vegative growth

 

[TREE KING]

thanks toohigh. i didnt know cbb was off the market. i got pretty much a whole bottle and its only for foliar spraying so it will last for years anyway. what about scorpion juice after i flower? what mixture? guess what, i just realized i had some vho. so im gonna spray with cbb, take a day off then spray vho then take a day off etc. i would also appreciate a light mixture strength for vho toohigh if you know

 

[toohighmf]

DO NOT MIX VHO WITH ANYTHING. alternate foliars every other day. CBB 1 day, VHO the next. I start with about 2-3ml/gallon (200-400 ppm) increase 200 ppm every feed til you get to about 800ppm. I ran it highest at 600ppm. mixing by ppm is key because not all batches are identical, and ml's could differ, but TDS/PPM is the best way to mix. record your findings to mix by ml in the future. Scorpion juice was replaced w Bud candy, (carboload=dextrose,and Scorpion Juice=salyctic acid, or aspirin. aspirin simulates a viral attack or infestation and "stresses" a plant to produce more essential oils, terpines, flavonoids. so do huimic and fulvics, molasses, kelp, without the stress.. I call BS on most of these potions FYI.

 

[TREE KING]

great info toohigh thanks.

 

[TREE KING]

ok so i just mixed 3ml a gallon of cbb and scorpion. separately of course. and i also mixed 200ppm of vho. toohigh is there anything else that you recommend foliar feeding or are these the 3 main things? i just realized that when i buy Bud candy then i wont have to foliar spray scorpion juice anymore so that makes 2 main things im using i guess. is there another product used on the 2 part program that uses cbb so i dont have to foliar spray that either? when i used to grow they didnt have budfactor x in the program so i dont know if cbb is in that

 

[toohighmf]

cbb is just 3 forms of nitrogen. I foliar w bvitamins, humics, etc. sometimes I just dilute my res solution and foliar with it..

 

[TREE KING]

cbb is just 3 forms of nitrogen. I foliar w bvitamins, humics, etc. sometimes I just dilute my res solution and foliar with it..

with me id like to foliar feed with stuff that isnt in the res. particularly stuff that isnt in the 2 part program. by bvitamins im guessing you mean b-52? i have that in the res already. i also noticed that the humic and fulvic acid isnt included in the 2 part program anymore. why is that? are they added to another product now or something?

 

[ColoradoOG]

DO NOT MIX VHO WITH ANYTHING. alternate foliars every other day. CBB 1 day, VHO the next. I start with about 2-3ml/gallon (200-400 ppm) increase 200 ppm every feed til you get to about 800ppm. I ran it highest at 600ppm. mixing by ppm is key because not all batches are identical, and ml's could differ, but TDS/PPM is the best way to mix. record your findings to mix by ml in the future. Scorpion juice was replaced w Bud candy, (carboload=dextrose,and Scorpion Juice=salyctic acid, or aspirin. aspirin simulates a viral attack or infestation and "stresses" a plant to produce more essential oils, terpines, flavonoids. so do huimic and fulvics, molasses, kelp, without the stress.. I call BS on most of these potions FYI.

Unfortunatly dont mean to tread on your feet a bit but some things are not correct. First bud candy was not a replacement for scorpion. They mixed sweet leaf and carboload into bud candy. Bud candy is a flavor enhancer and primary ingredients is mag sulfate..found in all other sweetners. There is unlisted ingredients such as malt extract, molasses, cranberry ect.

Scorpion was combined into a product and that product is bud factor X. Colossal bud blast,Scorpion and 3rd unknown thing(Prob humics) was added to make up Bud Factor X. Scorpion Juice was primarily made of of chitosan(A fiber from sea shells) whereas salicylic acid is derived from the willow tree. Scorpion also contained various vitamins.

Looking at pricing it reflects this as well.
MSRP in 1L size:
(Old Product) Colossal Bud blast 46.00
(Old Product) Scorpion Juice 56.50
(New Product)Bud Factor X 94.32

(There are new tags on bottles of bud candy that state sweet leaf and carboload were combined into bud candy)
Bud Candy 30.84
Carbo load 24.54
Sweet Leaf 30.36

 

[ColoradoOG]

with me id like to foliar feed with stuff that isnt in the res. particularly stuff that isnt in the 2 part program. by bvitamins im guessing you mean b-52? i have that in the res already. i also noticed that the humic and fulvic acid isnt included in the 2 part program anymore. why is that? are they added to another product now or something?

Advanced is working on combining humics(h1) and fulvics(f1) into their base nutrient line. Along with wet betty.

Use caution with b-52. B-52 is not just vitamins like vitaboost use to be. It contains 2-1-4 npk,unknown ratio micros, kelp(Unknown whether it is cold or hot pressed),humic and vitamins.

 

[TREE KING]

great info colorado, thanks. i was just doing some research and found out that theres humic and fulvic acid in nirvana which is part of the program. from the way it looks i wont even have to foliar spray anymore because all the stuff is already in the program. what about maybe seaweed extract, is that in it? maybe i can foliar feed that. if anyone has suggestions on other stuff i can foliar feed that doesnt exist in the 2 part program please post. thanks

 

[toohighmf]

sorry buddy, but don't take what the bottle says as gospel. I know for a fact bud candy is salyctic acid and dextrose. bud factor X is more salyctic acid. NIRVANA is their humic/fulvic now. like big bud had L-aminos in it and piranha didnt have Urea nitrogen in it. SRP $$$ means nothing to AN. who else charges $185 for trichoderma and $100 for ceptic mycorizae?

 

[Bakeneko]

Think a unopened gallon of CBB from 2006 is still any good? Stored cool location. Lol

 

[SubscribeOrDie]

SRP $$$ means nothing to AN. who else charges $185 for trichoderma and $100 for ceptic mycorizae?

Fast forward a decade and every organic retailer has turned into AN wannabes.