Satellite Fuel

[Iron_Lion]

Just another route to consider, have you ever thought about predators? Buy some lady bugs and let them rip. Their main food source is aphids.

The worst part of bugs is having to introduce pesticides, that would be a deal breaker.

 

[40AmpstoFreedom]

This round is Beneficial Nematodes 5 million every week or two, botanigard, organic soil, and malathion. If it doesn't work I just have to quit for awhile until I save up for a new place to start completely from scratch. While lady bugs do destroy aphids the Nematodes I found were much more effective because they can get in the soil the whole way through root zone etc where the aphids live. Lacewings are also very strong killers as well as some beneficial aphids you can buy.

 

[BigDawg]

why would you need to get rid of parents? Can't you just take clones of them before you move?

 

[40AmpstoFreedom]

why would you need to get rid of parents? Can't you just take clones of them before you move?

I read many people getting them from clones which to me means they are somehow in the plant although all of my searching has not yielded an answer I just assume from other people getting them in clones I should just toss everything ;\ When you get 4 grows deep that are ruined and you even moved grow locations entirely, things you never thought you would ever do start to sound like the only real solution...My moms are much healthier than my flower room was most are untouched but I can't risk them coming back this next grow has to work. I am really torn on what to do. I have people in real life telling me I am crazy as well as on the internet, but I have seemingly exhausted all remedies I have found online other than what I am trying this next run.

 

[Sideways]

I just recently had my first case of root aphids- nothing worked to kill them. Fucking pissed me off. I think the proliferation of root aphids indoors comes from using coco. They thrive in the environment, and I believe they are even coming in the batches of coco and soil using coco. They are difficult to kill and without a thorough treatment, its like antibiotics- using them improperly only makes the aphids stronger. Switching back to soil mixed by me. Just my.02 -good luck 40, i am a fan of your grows.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

yea been doing some research on them and from what i hear its pretty scary....lots of folks who tried everything and did nothing. i just doused my plants with a mix of Merit75 and SNS203.......i have had success with the double mixed pesticides, for spidermites i mix a systematic with an organic and go to work, usually azamax and SNS.

from what i read azamax is totally useless against RA.

some of my local friends swear by Met52 so i will give that a try as well.....and im going to look into nematodes..

the key to pest eradication is integrated pest management, combo knockouts and hit them in every phase from deterent and through their life cycles....


40 i wouldnt give up totally, with RA in soil you could probably still pull a decent commercial grade harvest to cover bills, etc....i just grew some LVPK that had fungas gnats and root aphids and it still came out really nice..just find some strong strains, mix some fresh soil up and layer it with an inch of DE at top and bottom and give them a met52 dousing at beginning of flower and im sure they will make it all the way to flower with enough quality to get you by..

 

[Bullfrog44]

Just A shot in the dark but what if you turned up CO2 to very high levels? Not sure how these thrips work, but if they need oxegen then it would kill them. Maybe do this at night cycle couple times a week.

 

[40AmpstoFreedom]

I have reached a decision and will keep my parents for one more. If my new method does not work I will then proceed with getting rid of everything. I have a hunch now after some research and a macro picture I just took.

For the mean time I will send in some packs next Monday of my OGK x Bluebonic, Satellite Fuel, and OGK x Galadriel mom. My seed run this time was successful and I have quite a few, but the buds were not.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

i think the hardest part about RA is that their larvae and juveniles live in the soil in the root systems, so makes it harder to kill than a pest like spider mites....

root drenches just dont seem that effective since you risk damaging your plants too....

almost makes me want to go DWC and do root rinses in high strength pesticide...

 

[Scrappy-doo]

Very sorry to hear about your infestation.

 

[mtncolas]

Bayer Once and Done, even worked in hydro system and homemade easy cloner. Seems to be pretty gentle on plants. 3 tbls per gal.

 

[cody2white]

Hope for the best 40. That asprin idea works too. Looking forward to score some more fire from you too

 

[ixnay007]

http://www.pchydro.com/blog/?p=85

AzaMAx and Pyrethrum mixed together, soil drenches every other day for a couple weeks, use in fairly low concentrations (to avoid hurting your plants), the important thing is consistency, they've got a very short lifespan, eggs to larvae in 3 days, so the most important things is keeping the level of pesticides high enough to catch the new hatching ones.

Yes4prop215 be careful, Merit75 is for ornamental plants, not consumables.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

yea its still in veg hopefully it will flush out.....im not even going to flip these to 12/12 if they cant recover..

when you are doing soil drenches every other day what is the feeding dosage? just doing plain water and pesticide, or adding a little fert in there once and a while...

im going to revolve like 4 different pesticides at once on these plants. i kinda view these plants as testers, i have so much shit backed up in veg it doesnt really matter if they are sacrificed for the point of research...

Bayer Once and Done, even worked in hydro system and homemade easy cloner. Seems to be pretty gentle on plants. 3 tbls per gal.

thats the bayer tree and shrub right? thanks for the info

 

[mtncolas]

yes sir, black bottle. Had those little fuckers in my hydro system , bobble cloner and soil. One application, checked roots on clones in bubble and there all dead. Most amazing thing to me is it does not hurt your plants, even little 3" clones.Even in hydro and no fill and drain once applied, at least that's how I did it. Great product. Around 9 dollars and available everywhere.

 

[ixnay007]

yea its still in veg hopefully it will flush out.....im not even going to flip these to 12/12 if they cant recover..

when you are doing soil drenches every other day what is the feeding dosage? just doing plain water and pesticide, or adding a little fert in there once and a while...

Good question, I'm guessing some ferts will be necessary, a healthy plant is gonna be able to better resist and recoup IMHO..

I'm not an expert though, I don't know if there are interactions you might need to worry about.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

i hit my plants with a combo of bayer and 400ppm nutrient dosage and they responded nicely, got nice lush green color back in plants that were an ugly pale green yellow a few days earlier, also solved droopy leaves..

it was
Bayer Tree and Shrub (imid)
FF big bloom
Liquid Karma
CalMag
H202 peroxide to help fight root rot
great white

 

[cody2white]

Awesome prop glad Ur a ok

 

[40AmpstoFreedom]

Botanigard + 10 million nematodes (5 million of 2 different kinds) = win it seems.

I never had my plants recover before and they went from in the garbage bagged up and unpotted, to green as new. I lost 1/3 of my plants I threw away in the flowering room about to be flipped that were too far gone, but managed to save the rest and they were all in a bad way as well.

My botanigard came 8 days early so someone convinced me to try to save them and I am still in disbelief they are alive much less fully green.If the botanigard had not come until after Christmas I do not believe any would have been spared.

I would recommend arbico organics for ordering nematodes for pest problems they are very cheap and seemingly very effective. I hope I never have to use a chemical pesticide again seeing as how fungus's and live insects seem to be the only thing that worked and I saw a difference in 4 days time. I flipped them on the third and some are 3 1/2 4ft the hard hit ones are very green but took a hit in growth height most sit at about 2 1/2-3 ft.

I will ship off the beans Monday. I did not want to sell them if I were to lose my parental stock as I was determined to just breed them out from the seeds I had, but since things are good to go I will ship them off. Germ test was 20/20 on the ones I am sending in. Will be 3 different kinds up eventually, but only 2 will be shipped first.

 

[master shake]

haha every time I see Kenny Powers I forget he is just from the show and he seems like a real person!

Lovely plants 40, I like your style. What nutes do you use? My guess would be floranova? shit looks dank!