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I personally love dry sift, it's high is immediate, rushing, and cerebral, however, having said that it is NOT as potent as budder/bho.
I know some don't like the terpene loss/alteration associated with budder/bho, but there are a lot of false negative connontation associated with these products,
I am myself currently conducting experiments trying to find the next great product, I am using THE most potent MJ product on the planet as a base (budder/bho), adding dry sift and bubblehash in varying ratios to attempt to find the perfect balance. What I find most difficult is the guesswork that goes into it, with no laboratory access, I find that my results are left to subjection, if I had measurable baselines to go from I would better be able to make decisions on what is causing what, in my findings (I am a stoner, after all).
peace and good smoking - The Unknown Grower (Tug)
I know some don't like the terpene loss/alteration associated with budder/bho, but there are a lot of false negative connontation associated with these products,
I am myself currently conducting experiments trying to find the next great product, I am using THE most potent MJ product on the planet as a base (budder/bho), adding dry sift and bubblehash in varying ratios to attempt to find the perfect balance. What I find most difficult is the guesswork that goes into it, with no laboratory access, I find that my results are left to subjection, if I had measurable baselines to go from I would better be able to make decisions on what is causing what, in my findings (I am a stoner, after all).
peace and good smoking - The Unknown Grower (Tug)
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Chamba
I personally love dry sift, it's high is immediate, rushing, and cerebral, however, having said that it is NOT as potent as budder/bho.
true......but are you using a single mesh screen..or....several mesh screens? ..as there's a big difference...
personally I think that anyone who thinks well made dry sift is not strong enough has a tolerance to so high that they need to take a day, a week or a month off from THC to really appreciate it again...the lower your tolerance is, the greater you will really appreaciate the subtle effects of cannabis as you go from clean as to buzzed off your head soaring from jsut a fe tokes, ....the more you smoke, the higher your tolerance becomes, the less high you get, the less you enjoy and appreciate cannabis....I get higher from a little skinny joint of bud once a day than I do when I chain smoke fat joints full of bud and triple sifted kif all day long.,,respect cannabis and learn how to use and enjoy it .....or smoke heaps, don't get high, just zonked and just waste it
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true......but are you using a single mesh screen..or....several mesh screens? ..as there's a big difference...
personally I think that anyone who thinks well made dry sift is not strong enough has a tolerance to so high that they need to take a day, a week or a month off from THC to really appreciate it again...the lower your tolerance is, the greater you will really appreaciate the subtle effects of cannabis as you go from clean as to buzzed off your head soaring from jsut a fe tokes, ....the more you smoke, the higher your tolerance becomes, the less high you get, the less you enjoy and appreciate cannabis....I get higher from a little skinny joint of bud once a day than I do when I chain smoke fat joints full of bud and triple sifted kif all day long.,,respect cannabis and learn how to use and enjoy it .....or smoke heaps, don't get high, just zonked and just waste it
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Chamba said:
Sorry for the confusing posting, there are fresh words in that quote above.
I will, great ideas, I will try seperately, then add in my own mixes (with and without budder), and see.
I know SamtS has great knowledge, and I think you must too (obviously), so I will take your suggestions to heart.
As I get older, the amount of high matters less, and the quality of high more, so I will start paying more attention.
Thanks for taking the time to explain, I look forward to hearing more from you, and Sam (I always treasued his posts at OG).
peace - Tug
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T.U.G.,
The only reason the dry sift is not better is because it is not as strong in THC as the water sift. If the dry sift and the water extract are made with the same clone, and to the same THC% then the dry sift will be stronger. I know because I have a GC and have done the tests.
Saying that, unless you have dry sift of very high quality the water sift or oil will be stronger then the dry sift. I can make stronger dry sift from anyones clone that is stronger then any water made hash from the same clone. Believe me.
-SamS
The only reason the dry sift is not better is because it is not as strong in THC as the water sift. If the dry sift and the water extract are made with the same clone, and to the same THC% then the dry sift will be stronger. I know because I have a GC and have done the tests.
Saying that, unless you have dry sift of very high quality the water sift or oil will be stronger then the dry sift. I can make stronger dry sift from anyones clone that is stronger then any water made hash from the same clone. Believe me.
-SamS
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i'm not so sure I beleive you...
I think you should have me over to to test your claim, that sounds like more fun than just beleiving.
I think you should have me over to to test your claim, that sounds like more fun than just beleiving.
Diego
Active member
That would be nice to have dry sieve at 50 percent plus, imagine hash that doesnt have to dry, granted bubblehash is the best I have smoked. But id imagine that a good dry sift would kick your head in just as well. Itd be like already cured hash almost. Needless to say itd be well worth a try if it is possible and I'd imagine a lot of people would want it. I would.
your perpetual pal guineapig 
SativaBelieva
Active member
Sam_Skunkman said:
Believas like to know how to make hash like you do... hoping you would reveal some of your secrets... and give us an hint into the right direction...
SB
i would imagine that a combination of vibration, suction and static electricity combined with multiple screens, will be the way to do it. just don't ask me how to incorporate all that in a machine, lol. even better would be if you could incorporate the carding into it too. it would be easier to make a purification system rather than an all in one contraption. it would be cool if Sam_Skunkmans system came out soon, as i'm very curious. but i'm happy to wait till it is perfected. that's only wise. i can just hear the screams if it was in anyway unfinished before it came out.
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btw chamba, you know when i was making 50 percent pure dry sift? over 15 yrs ago. i got tired of it.
I had the chance to smoke some of sams dry sift and I'm a believer
anyone that knows me knows I smoke heavy indica first thing in the morning for kicks
sam put some sift into a joint I was rolling, it took me 2 hours to smoke it and 4 to recover from it
the flavour was hard to describe but is certainly was different to say bubble or normal dry sift
hey Sam if your in town drop buy
OP
anyone that knows me knows I smoke heavy indica first thing in the morning for kicks
sam put some sift into a joint I was rolling, it took me 2 hours to smoke it and 4 to recover from it
the flavour was hard to describe but is certainly was different to say bubble or normal dry sift
hey Sam if your in town drop buy
OP
Hashmasta-Kut said:...
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what story is that?
Hashmasta-Kut said:
so what's your poison now days then? or do you mean you now smoke even more powerful dry sift then 50%thc? must be good to replace that stuff, eh?
i use my trim for sift, and my buds for oil.
the end of chambas story, he was starting about me one post before mine.
the end of chambas story, he was starting about me one post before mine.
oldpink said:
ya OP so he has the bomb strain! reeferman said recently he was highly impressed by sams herb too. i have said this for years and years, that the plant you make the hash from is WAY MORE IMPORTANT than the purity of the hash. shitty purity hash from the old primo skunk (roadkill clone from 1980) was pretty much stronger than any other hash around, no matter how purely made. make the skunk hash super pure then you have something as impressive as what you had, OP.
Oh I totally agree some strains make better hash / sift / bubble than others do
I feel some strains are better suited to making hash than others
it also depends on the grower and the method of grow so theres a lot of things that influence the final product
at the 4:20 cup in 2004 I seen 3 ECSD entry's from the same genetics grown by different people
and all 3 had slight differences in taste, smell and look
maybe like a fine wine some crops from the same source will be better than others
even in the most controlled growroom conditions, I hope so as this means every hit will be different
in its own way
OP
I feel some strains are better suited to making hash than others
it also depends on the grower and the method of grow so theres a lot of things that influence the final product
at the 4:20 cup in 2004 I seen 3 ECSD entry's from the same genetics grown by different people
and all 3 had slight differences in taste, smell and look
maybe like a fine wine some crops from the same source will be better than others
even in the most controlled growroom conditions, I hope so as this means every hit will be different
in its own way
OP
ya best food will give best buds. i used to like the old 6 part mix.
