Sacramento clones

[Irie Kaya Lover]

yeah yeah...

...where do clubs get their cuttings from? do they just buy like flats of them off people? seems like a cool gig - selling cuttings to a club or trading for finished meds. i always kinda wondered where the clubs get their stuff from.

 

[dankbudz]

the clubs will buy flats, cubes, rooted in soil, plugs etc etc. they pay cash for them.

but the biggest problem...which has been pointed out above is they dont know what theyre getting half the time....which has led to numerous mislabeled strains and mass confusion. it has literally watered down the pool.

 

[sneakinman13]

just got a gdp clone from marconi!
hope she turns out nice...

 

[Irie Kaya Lover]

the clubs will buy flats, cubes, rooted in soil, plugs etc etc. they pay cash for them.

but the biggest problem...which has been pointed out above is they dont know what theyre getting half the time....which has led to numerous mislabeled strains and mass confusion. it has literally watered down the pool.

so they buy them from customers? i guess that would make sense due to the random variety between different clubs. i wonder if they pay like $1/ea and mark it up to $20.

really would be nice to have that farmers market more locally so more known keepers can be found. wouldn't even have to be that often, even once every few months would be fine for the majority of growers. that way it wouldn't take up so much dedication on the parts of those who would monitor it and put it on, as well as give a bit more excitement and enthusiasm for those participants since they have to wait for it...like waiting for amber trichs.

 

[dankbudz]

the pay depends on what theyre rooted in theyll pay anywhere from 2-5 dollars a piece. then they jack the price way up.

 

[wick650]

ehhhhh I don't know dankbudz, I've witnessed a lot in that biz that you speak of and I think your acting a tad paranoid.

IME clubs never charge for their cuts more than double than they paid for them, if they buy them for $3 they sell 'em for $6.

"The genepool has been watered down & mass confusion B/C of clubs selling clones"?

Think your going a little too far with the speculation my friend LOL Did a clone vendor rape you when you were a kid?

 

[dankbudz]

ehhhhh I don't know dankbudz, I've witnessed a lot in that biz that you speak of and I think your acting a tad paranoid.

paranoid how do you figure??

IME clubs never charge for their cuts more than double than they paid for them, if they buy them for $3 they sell 'em for $6.

you must have not stayed around for a bit. theyve done it right in front of my face...not that i care though

"The genepool has been watered down & mass confusion B/C of clubs selling clones"?

if your going to quote me at least do it right

but the biggest problem...which has been pointed out above is they dont know what theyre getting half the time....which has led to numerous mislabeled strains and mass confusion. it has literally watered down the pool.

Think your going a little too far with the speculation my friend LOL Did a clone vendor rape you when you were a kid?

no need to be childish bout it. maybe it was you who got molested as a child. to bring something like that up....you have to be thinking bout it. which brings up an interesting question "Why are you thinking bout rape?" that really shows some under lying issues. i think you need to get help. if you ever need to talk bout what happened to you as a kid there are people out there who can help you.

 

[animal#1]

honestly Dankbudz how do mislabeled clones water down the gene pool by themselves? they dont. growers who breed with them , excuse me" breed" with them water down the gene pool. kinda like saying guns people

coops wanna make money

 

[dankbudz]

mislabeling adds more phenos or whatever you want to call them to the list. thus giving people more to differentiate from. then they have to be grown to find out theyre not what people say they are.

i guess its not technically watering down the pool....its just adding cuts to the list that are not what they are labeled. so then people who dont know the difference pass them along under a mislabeled name...then the poeple they passed'em to passes them to 5 other people and so on....thus "polluting" the pool

 

[Rainman]

Im with Db on this cause they do mislabel alot of cuts or just dont care. I have yet to be in a club that was selling clones for $6 bucks either. The clubs here offer alot of gear but at what price to you the consumer. $20 cuts that may or may no be what you pay for. Poor quality(BC Bud Depot and BC P Kush = Garbage), mislabels, no real reliable info from those workin the shop!! Then unsuspecting folks turn around and chunk pollen on these watering down the pool.

Maybe we should ask the "Danimal" aka "Dusty Bowls" to share some of his prized cuts with us so we dont gotta go looking in vain. What da ya think Animal#1? No! Well guess it doesn't hurt to ask or know who you are really talking to.

 

[wick650]

Dankbudz-
Relax friend, I was joking about the rape comment. You just seem far too apoclyptic, its like you have a chip on your shoulder against the cut vending community. I apologize if you took offense.

I have heard of a few shady clone vendors, but on the whole I think we have it very good out here in California and I know at least in my region we've been working hard to make the hoarded cuts reliabley offered and its changed the whole scenery. Medical patients no longer have to be "connected" to get a valued cuts anymore, I think this huge progress. I can see you having a problem with a specific club or something, but to make grandious claims against an entire community is foolish and incorrect.


Rainman-
There are clubs in the bay area that used to charge $6 per clone, but that's besides the point I was just saying that clubs mark them up to double what they paid for them. Out of 7 different clubs that I worked with this was a shared policy between all of them.

You don't have to beg anyone, I can't think of any "prized cuts" that are not availble in clubs, if you take a look around its not hard to figure out the spots that they're offered at. Then again, I guess we're talking about Sacremento and I don't have experience with cut vendors there. LMK what your looking for & I'll point you in the right direction

 

[dankbudz]

wick-no prob bro...i was just trying to ruffle feathers.

rainman-thats my point bro

all in all clubs do mark stuff up double if not more most of the time. now that alot of clubs in the bay area quit carrying cuts its not as bad any more.

about me having a chip on my should with clone vendors...i guess i do. when alot of people cut clones and misblable them on purpose or cut mass clones of a strain they havent grown out and sell the shit outta them i does piss me off. it gives our community a bad name and it makes all vendors look bad. places like harborside used to sell cuts for 8 i think or something close to that...but look how many horror stories came outta that place with cut not being what they were supposed to be. i love the guys there...good people. when i go down south to the bay or LA i always look at the cuts they carry and they meds they have for sell...most of the time i end up shaking my head. it makes me wonder where is the quality control??

on the other hand i love the freedom we have in cali. theres no ther place i would rather be. alotta people have hopped on the MMJ wagon as a way to fatten theyre pockets....with no reguards to patients/quality/reliability just to theyre wallets. there will always be people like that...but we as a community cant let this stuff go on. we gotta take it upon ourselves to let clubs/vendors/caretakers this stuff will not be tolerated. if you gotta boycott places do so and spread the word. you gotta hit them where it hurts and thats in the wallet. it will also send a message that quality and reliability come first.

 

[animal#1]

Yes sir Dank Budz - Got herbs in my chalice pipe and in my tea herb in my system chemically free organically medically proven to be for whole of my heady legalize the herb cause the people them poor!!!

Rainman - How fair is it for someone to demand me give them a clone of a plant I either grew from seed or traded the strains I sourced out side the bullshit that is the internet? Seems pretty rediculous to think that some one is in the wrong because they won't meet your demands and consistantly chide them for not doing so.

Wick is right, any hype strain that any card holding 215 patient could ever dream about wanting to get is available to them through clubs or patients groups that have formed off this very web site.

Regretfully I do grow a garden that requires clones and choose to take more than I need and then pick the absolute best. What I don't keep goes right in to the trash because I do not support vending clones I wouldn't grow for myself, and I need every single rooted lady I've got for my own medical needs.

I'm ready for you to flame me now Rainman. Have a nice day.

 

[wick650]

Dankbudz-
I agree that we all need to post bad expereriences with factual information that we can actually use. For ex. if someone has a problem with dry meds or a specific clone vendor @ a spot then they need to post about it. However, I do not think it helps to just condemn an entire buisness like you are doing. Is it not possible to go about this in a much more constructive manner?

As far as Harborside, I had heard bad things about them but even with that spot they did have a few good clone vendors... for ex. OGorganic got his start in the clone vending biz through harborside. So you think L.A is shit too? There are ove 200 different clubs in the San Fernando Vallery alone, lets be more specfic.

 

[Rainman]

Ok guys first of all this is the Sacramento clones thread so that is what I am referring to when I say garbage as far as whats goin on. BC - Purple Kush!! What they couldn't couldn't get a real PK from anywhere else? We have the same open dispensaries but the quality we are seeing compared to the Bay (and I think Socal is even better as far as great cuts that people can just go grab) is terrible. So why the overwhelming difference in quality? Having grown most cuts from clubs in the area and most will never see the inside of my grow room again. Now I have gotten some great stuff as well but we are talking 2-3 out over how many $20 bullshit purchases? Compare the average experience we have with that of a patient in the Bay(45 minutes away) and you see the places here are in it for the money more than anything else. I wont even go into the bug situation at a couple of spots! And thats if you are even growing what they are labeling it. I do most clone runs to the Bay and the Clearlake market. They have the best vibes and the best cuts when its going on.

Danimal, Dusty Bowls, Animal#1 - Im not here to flame anybody. Never asked for cuts/anything, so what thats was about, I have no idea. As far as demands on you - I have absolutely none! But whats ridiculous is having to change your handle 20 times on the same site cause you cant stay cool. I honestly have no problem with you but I have been around here long enough and read enough threads to know whats up so lets keep it kosher. I was outta line to call you out and I am gonna apologize for that. Peace.

 

[animal#1]

Maybe we should ask the "Danimal" aka "Dusty Bowls" to share some of his prized cuts with us so we dont gotta go looking in vain. What da ya think Animal#1? No! Well guess it doesn't hurt to ask or know who you are really talking to.

Right there you are tellin me to give you one of the clones out of my collection but now I understand you were just trying to act like I've done something shady to you when in fact I have no clue who you are nor you me so I appreciate your apology. Way to stay off a Dumb band wagon

 

[GET MO]

Somebody needs ta step up and start suplyin sac clubs with some real good clones, all them assholes selln bullshit need ta quit, my folks gotta outdoor purps and an outdoor purple kush from marconi and they both turned out ta be some scraggaly bullshit. Is it the grower? HELL no, the rest of the shit they got goin is bomb as fuck, so it must be the cloner. Im dun with sac clones.

 

[trybud]

The problem is the dispensaries only deal with 3-4 people to supply clones. ive seen empty or pathetic shelves at a few of these clubs and asked about supplying them ( used to vend to medsac916, the club on el camino and the club down in roseville) i was told they have the same steady vendors and dont buy out of that circle (so theres goes 20 or so strains that dont get passed around) multiply that by the number of people out there with nice genetic stables that cant vend cuz they have no connections and you can see why things are 'watered down' and stale...

 

[dankbudz]

get mo and trybud- you guys prove my point.

 

[wick650]

Trybud-
People need to complain about those clone vendors b/c that sucks. In So Cal the clone situation used to be atrocious 3 or 4 years a go, people complained and new vendors were picked up by clubs.

dankbudz-
your point is that the entire med clone vending community is garbage, not just sacramento.