King said:K:Take Sour Diesel for example.
Rez: Let's do that.
k: Rez has put lots of time and space into this plant. He'll even state it has two pheno's. First cross 50/50. First Bx 75/25. Second Bx 87.5/12.5. And so on.
Rez:
Two dominant phenos,yes,indeed.
Sour Diesel Pheno
& DSD Pheno.
So far,so good.
k:Now let's take 3C's Sour Diesel he'll be selfing in the next few months. S1= 100% Sour Diesel genetics from the go.
Rez: 3CZ's been saying they'll self Sour Diesel for about a year.
So far,no go,except for the ae77CO and one other,and those were done long ago.
We don't even know if 3Cz has an authentic Sour Diesel Clone,they've never shown us any pics,so we tend to doubt them.
k: Now let's look at the growers.
I buy a pack of Sour Diesel from Rez. I get about 5 females. 1-2 of them don't display Sour Diesel traits, they show more or some DSD traits.
Rez: Okay.
k: I buy a pack of 3C's S1 Sour Diesel. I get 10 females, all should display 100% Sour Diesel traits. There aren't any other genetics involved to show here.
Rez: That's not the way it works.
The self'd clone had parents....and you'll see their individual traits enter the picture,as well.
Self'd seeds are NOT a 'copy' of the clone,but will likely show some of the traits of both sides,but won't replicate the clone mom....there are phenotypic differences,just like w m/f seeds.....they are not uniform.
Not fucking with the balance of nature gets you better results every time.
k: I will be doing a side by side comparison of Rez's Sour Diesel vs 3C's S1 Sour Diesel in the future.
Rez: I look fwd to your report,but iff you're waiting for 3Cz to start,you may need to pack a lunch (or two!)
k: Look at at S1 Aeric's Cali-O from 3C's. In particular it's double serrated leaf edge. Selfing is the only method that has gotten this growth charecteristic to carry over I'm aware of. I haven't seen anyone growing anything Cali-O or a hybrid with double serrated leaf edges, prior to it's selfing.
Rez: A single trait carried over....and that makes this worthwhile?
Btw,the 77aeCO's double serrated leaf edges popped up in my Orange Apollo a few times,so that's obviously a dom trait in the 77aeCO.
Rez: My advice?
Femmd seeds aren't all they're cracked up to be.
I could have self'd the Sour Diesel Clone LONG ago,and if I thought that it was a VALID mission,I would have done it.
I don't.