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mhlife1975
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Im sorry i just wondering what it would take. i dont want to do it. My wife and i are both legal so it all good thanks guys. shit ill be happy with 1 p every harvest.i got a few lights . thanks again.
pepelepew098
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so you can bud 12 or veg. 24?mhlife1975 said:
if so i would set up some type of perpetual harvest
put 1 into bud every week. it usually takes about 2 weeks to show buds,
so even if you end up with 8 plants in your bud chamber 2 will probably still look to be veggin and you'll probably be safe
as far as 50lbs a year....that would be quite an operation. get your wheels rollin first before ya get silly wit it
mhlife1975
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thanks man
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having an individual veg room you could get about 6 grows done in a year. 50 lbs = 800 oz. each grow you would have to produce 133.3 oz. say all your variable are in their respective places and get 3-4 oz per plant. average 38 plants. i'd say you'd need a 12x12 grow room and 6-7 1k HPS....... see what you're askin now?
DrKatz420
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mhlife1975 said:
You obviously still don't get it. Saying you'll be happy with 1 pound per harvest implies that you think this is some sort of worst-case-scenario. Wrong. Worst case scenario you yield nothing because either: you over/under water, over/under fert, and your plants die. You get spider mites and they eat everything. You get paranoid and tear down the grow. You get excited and chop 2 weeks early, and the bud sucks. Any of these are more than possible on your first grow, and the ONLY thning you should be concerned with at this point is harvesting at least ONE GRAM that is better than anything you've smoked before. Many rookies can't even pull this off, much less chop a pound the first time. And by the way, don't listen to the rookies in your other thread who told you that you'll yield a few pounds, just because you have 1500 watts to work with. Nobody who has actually harvested a pound at a time would tell you to expect that on your first grow.
mhlife1975
Member
thanks bro i appreciate it.
CaptJamesTKirk
Active member
Ya gotta learn to walk before ya run and ya fall down a lot learning first one and then the other.
Yeah it's fun to fantasize, but once you get some compleate grows behind you,,, - then you can understand what you are up aginst.
And vice-e-verse.
and even with a med card - 50 frickin pounds gets you and the wife in jail and your children being raised by the state, your home being sold and --- - well it just keeps going down hill from there.
Oh yeah the lawyers bills too.
Best bet might be gorilla grows outdoors - a lot of small plots - don't put all your eggs in one basket.
My first harvest with no experience and a 1000W light was maybe a QP - and I had several grows prior that were total failures.
Looks easy, sounds like a cake walk, but if it was - everybody would be doing it.
Yeah it's fun to fantasize, but once you get some compleate grows behind you,,, - then you can understand what you are up aginst.
And vice-e-verse.
and even with a med card - 50 frickin pounds gets you and the wife in jail and your children being raised by the state, your home being sold and --- - well it just keeps going down hill from there.
Oh yeah the lawyers bills too.
Best bet might be gorilla grows outdoors - a lot of small plots - don't put all your eggs in one basket.
My first harvest with no experience and a 1000W light was maybe a QP - and I had several grows prior that were total failures.
Looks easy, sounds like a cake walk, but if it was - everybody would be doing it.
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Jam Master Jaco
mhlife1975 said:
With a strain that flowers in 8 weeks, at one pound per harvest, that gives you 6 pounds a year. You went from 50 pounds a year to 6 pounds a year. Based off of that fact you obviously don't need 50 pounds a year, and I seriously doubt you need 6 pounds a year. I think you're just doing this for the money, and I don't think I'm the only person who thinks that. So don't expect good growing advice with a questions like "how do I get 50 pounds per year".
I have 450 watts HPS in a c13 cab. (4.5 sq feet)
8 plants per flower cycle
1/2 pound per havevest (VERY best case scenario for me)(I grow for quality not quantity tho. too)...I dont want a TON of weed that sucks
that =3 pounds a year
..to pull off 50 pounds a year I would need:
(16) more cabinets
(7200) more watts of HPS
and (92) more plants
I know other variables can change that, but thats just based on my scenario....and I've had a few yrs. of growing under my belt, and I'm still learning every day. You can ask the people around here...I'm learning every day.
I hope you dont have anything else goin' on in your life.
-yukon
..also my cost for my weed is $19 per OZ....I figured that the past cpl. grows base on electric, nutrients, soil, etc....everything that had a cost but not the lights themselves or the cab. or the pots etc.......(so not including stuff I didnt have to buy specific for each grow).
so @ that rate 50 pounds wiould cost me $15,200 dollars (not including equipment)
8 plants per flower cycle
1/2 pound per havevest (VERY best case scenario for me)(I grow for quality not quantity tho. too)...I dont want a TON of weed that sucks
that =3 pounds a year
..to pull off 50 pounds a year I would need:
(16) more cabinets
(7200) more watts of HPS
and (92) more plants
I know other variables can change that, but thats just based on my scenario....and I've had a few yrs. of growing under my belt, and I'm still learning every day. You can ask the people around here...I'm learning every day.
I hope you dont have anything else goin' on in your life.
-yukon
..also my cost for my weed is $19 per OZ....I figured that the past cpl. grows base on electric, nutrients, soil, etc....everything that had a cost but not the lights themselves or the cab. or the pots etc.......(so not including stuff I didnt have to buy specific for each grow).
so @ that rate 50 pounds wiould cost me $15,200 dollars (not including equipment)
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assuming 8 weeks, thats 6 grows per year (with about 4 weeks of downtime between grows)mhlife1975 said:
With 6 plants, thats 48 plants per year. So basically, each plant has to hit almost a pound of bud.
16oz in a pound. Unless you are vegging them to 8 feet with dual 1000W's, I dont see how this could possibly work.
mhlife1975
Member
thanks
I dont know how many of you guys remember "reaper" from OG?
That guy could pull it off in 1 grow. I dont recall his yield but besides "the bunker" the 1 grow that stands out to me was his 40,000 watts, 400 plants,...pulled so much juice that he had to have (2) 20,000 watt rooms that operated on alternate 12 hr schedules (he couldent run 40,000 watts at once) ...was fukin insane!
Ill see if I can pull that thread out of the google cache...probably no pics tho unless someone here has it saved or something.
-yukon
That guy could pull it off in 1 grow. I dont recall his yield but besides "the bunker" the 1 grow that stands out to me was his 40,000 watts, 400 plants,...pulled so much juice that he had to have (2) 20,000 watt rooms that operated on alternate 12 hr schedules (he couldent run 40,000 watts at once) ...was fukin insane!
Ill see if I can pull that thread out of the google cache...probably no pics tho unless someone here has it saved or something.
-yukon
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Guest
Same with so quick.
There is a grower named Guano at PG with similar limitations as yours.
He grows DWC and this shot is from his room. He is coming out with a g13 IBL....not, that's a joke of his.
I think he pulls like 6 or 8 per plant and I guarantee it isn't his first grow.
It will take you a while to find the right plant to give you what you want.
I haven't reached my personal goals for my grow yet after a year and a half.
I am still testing genetics, phenos, and grow methods, not to mention nute regimens.
Each grow gets better, but I lost a grow due to inexperience. It was months of work down the drain. Fifty pounds is a lot of trimming. Try six pounds a year and take it from there. Getting rid of it is not that easy either.
You sound very young , like the kids at OG, listen to the experience growers here.
There is a grower named Guano at PG with similar limitations as yours.
He grows DWC and this shot is from his room. He is coming out with a g13 IBL....not, that's a joke of his.
I think he pulls like 6 or 8 per plant and I guarantee it isn't his first grow.
It will take you a while to find the right plant to give you what you want.
I haven't reached my personal goals for my grow yet after a year and a half.
I am still testing genetics, phenos, and grow methods, not to mention nute regimens.
Each grow gets better, but I lost a grow due to inexperience. It was months of work down the drain. Fifty pounds is a lot of trimming. Try six pounds a year and take it from there. Getting rid of it is not that easy either.
You sound very young , like the kids at OG, listen to the experience growers here.
mhlife1975
Member
thanks everyone. i really just wanted to know what it would take. Thanks again
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i agree with the earlier post that it does sound like a -for profit- motivation instead of a stay medicated or have enough for me, the wife, and a few friends. even if between you two you go through an ounce a week, thats about 52 ounces a year, 4 pounds 4 ounces a year. I guess budget in 12 more ounces, just to be extremely generous, and say thats for celebrations and gifting to friends, thats still only 5 pounds per year. I really don't see how the average medicated patient should need much more than that (emphasis on average).
If you're really looking to get a huge yield off the numbers. FIrst of all, like it was said a few posts above me, there is a dry weight limit you're allowed to have at one time, no matter how much you grow legally, its still not legal for you to possess over a certain amount, so your med card won't do anything for ya.
I'd say get some experience growing. Learn a system such as DWC bucket grows or biobuckets. if you and the wife both have med cards, you can do what you said and use one of your prescriptions to veg 12 plants at a time and the other prescription to flower 6 at the same time. Your best bet, IMHO would be a continually rotating (?perpetual?) monster bush style grow. It'll take a while to get started up, but heres what I see.
Each plant will be vegged for 4 months or so (im probably way off on the time, I've never grown huge with long veg times). Lots of FIMing needs to happen to get multiple tops. Train under a 4x4 screen SCROG style. chop one flowering plant, move new plant to flower room. If It was 4 month veg time, with 12 plants, you could just stagger each start 2 months. that way you're always moving a huge vegged out plant into the flower room every 2 months. maybe a pound every 2 months if you stick each plant under a 1000w hps, have great conditions, good gentics, and know both your system and your plants very very well. Everything needs to be dialed in, and this is part of the reason you can't really expect realistically to be able to jump right into huge yields right away.
like I said, I have never grown huge, this is speculative. Listen to eveybody else when they tell you to start small and get bigger before thinking you're gonna get a giant yield.
If you're really looking to get a huge yield off the numbers. FIrst of all, like it was said a few posts above me, there is a dry weight limit you're allowed to have at one time, no matter how much you grow legally, its still not legal for you to possess over a certain amount, so your med card won't do anything for ya.
I'd say get some experience growing. Learn a system such as DWC bucket grows or biobuckets. if you and the wife both have med cards, you can do what you said and use one of your prescriptions to veg 12 plants at a time and the other prescription to flower 6 at the same time. Your best bet, IMHO would be a continually rotating (?perpetual?) monster bush style grow. It'll take a while to get started up, but heres what I see.
Each plant will be vegged for 4 months or so (im probably way off on the time, I've never grown huge with long veg times). Lots of FIMing needs to happen to get multiple tops. Train under a 4x4 screen SCROG style. chop one flowering plant, move new plant to flower room. If It was 4 month veg time, with 12 plants, you could just stagger each start 2 months. that way you're always moving a huge vegged out plant into the flower room every 2 months. maybe a pound every 2 months if you stick each plant under a 1000w hps, have great conditions, good gentics, and know both your system and your plants very very well. Everything needs to be dialed in, and this is part of the reason you can't really expect realistically to be able to jump right into huge yields right away.
like I said, I have never grown huge, this is speculative. Listen to eveybody else when they tell you to start small and get bigger before thinking you're gonna get a giant yield.
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