Round Infinity

[Vaporizzando192]

here we learn everyday

ooook....thanks once more

 

[Ganoderma]

been trying to get my hands on wheat bran to make bokashi;

Bokashi? What?

 

[ReikoX]

Did you see the article on The Unconventional Farmer about using coffee grounds as your bakashi bran? They can be sourced free from most Starbucks.

 

[Avinash.miles]

feel free please to write me down some helpful links u found very important to improve ur organic knowledge specially about amendment mix.

thx so much

http://theunconventionalfarmer.com/
http://www.hawaiihealingtree.org/
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=256481
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=267388

links just off the top of my head

but, none of those are about amendment mix; but i previously used bone and blood meal, always 2 parts bone to one part blood at about 1 cup bone & 1/2 cup blood per cubic foot.

simply based on industrial byproduct source i've switched to a more kelp crustacean and neem soil at 1/2 cup kelp 1/2 cup neem/karanja and 1/2 cup crustacean (half mixed crustacean meal half shrimp meal) per cu ft plus oystershell and rock dusts total about 4 cups per cubic foot
personally i think the blood and bone might have done a better job but i only ran that soil about a year and had to leave most of it behind at the previous location, what i took was recylced into new mixed batches
also
a local organic farm distributor has his own granular mix ("perfect blend biotic") made from chicken manure compost, fish, minerals, and sulpomag, it's 4-4-4 and only think really lacking from it is a lil extra Ca in my opinion
i used about half a 50 gallon bag (44$) on my veggie garden, the other half on ganja soil inside and out - no complaints and the price is right, and i bought another bag and did some re-amending and topdressing with it, still no complaints yet.... altho good chance this is also made from industrial byproduct like blood and bone meal, that's just an assumption tho.

Bokashi? What?

yer kidding, or no?
kashi is grain that's innoculated with beneficial anerobic/facultative microbes
pretty easy to make once you have the liquid bacteria serum which can be made or purchased (em1 and others).
and if you can easily source bulk grain/bran locally.....

Did you see the article on The Unconventional Farmer about using coffee grounds as your bakashi bran? They can be sourced free from most Starbucks.

didn't see the one on that site, but i knew it was an option; really any carbon source can be used, people make it from cardboard and newspaper. closest starbux to me might be as far as those GOOD farmstores in the "big city"
i'm about to make some kashi out of hay just for the compost piles and sheet composts to lay down till fall

^ special ogk haze

^^ Sour Tsunami x Scotts OG
Tsunami leaning pheno, sativa pheno, smells like haze spice with tropical fruit; hint of acrid cheezey smell alongside the spice
I'm assuming this plant will carry more of the CBD trait than the other pheno, since Sour Tsunami is the CBD strain in the cross, could be wrong tho

^^ Sour Tsunami x Scotts OG Indica leaning pheno
this is definitely an OG leaning pheno smells kinda cedar-y and musky with sour D hints, is obviously more frosty than her sister the sativa leaner

^^ Lemon Ox

^^ Twista x Serious Seeds Bubblegum
most sativa plant i have outside, hopefully the season will cooperate so she can finish or at least come close

 

[Ganoderma]

yer kidding, or no?
kashi is grain that's innoculated with beneficial anerobic/facultative microbes
pretty easy to make once you have the liquid bacteria serum which can be made or purchased (em1 and others).
and if you can easily source bulk grain/bran locally.....

I've heard of grain innoculated with benni's. I just don't think I've heard of that name before and wasn't sure to what you where talking about.

 

[Avinash.miles]

I've heard of grain innoculated with benni's. I just don't think I've heard of that name before and wasn't sure to what you where talking about.

it's korean natural farming technique i think...
innoculated with lactic acid bacteria serum mixed in water with molasses

 

[Vaporizzando192]

U use sprouted seeds tea also during flowerin'time? I just used each 2 weeks in veg period...what is the benefit to use them in flo?? Thx

P.s. I do SST with Alfalfa and what i know is that alfalfa is not good in the flowering stage due to the triacontanol but im not sure if Cytokinins will provide benefits to my plants on flowering

Thx for ur answers and links, i will read them in deep.

Now really last question about sprout: what about chia? Do they help in flowering time??? Thx sooo much

 

[who dat is]

I like seeing your plants in the ground. That has to be a good feeling

 

[ReikoX]

didn't see the one on that site, but i knew it was an option; really any carbon source can be used, people make it from cardboard and newspaper. closest starbux to me might be as far as those GOOD farmstores in the "big city"
i'm about to make some kashi out of hay just for the compost piles and sheet composts to lay down till fall

FYI, it's part of the Blog.
http://theunconventionalfarmer.com/how-to-make-bokashi-bran-from-coffee-grounds/ I've heard of the newspaper thing too.

 

[Avinash.miles]

^^ Mt. Trogger Bx flo x (flo x ox)

^^ Mt. Trogger Bx

^^ Dosidos

^^ Dosidos

^^ 24 K White by Karma Genetics

shown at the end of week 6
this run seems like it will end a little early (8 weeks probably), unless something shows to keep swelling and pushing fresh pistils.... as of right now the daywrecker headband is the only strain that looks like it could keep going longer.
I was told in a previous run that my (over)use of fermented plant extracts (every watering) along with (mis) timed sst applications (alfalfa up to seek 6, oops) delayed senescence and i ended up cutting at 10 weeks with plants still wanting to push and swell; I'm hoping to balance the two extremes, early & late senescence... in hindsight i think i would prefer to have delayed and an extended bloom time; especially now that my situation is more stable and secure.

finally made it to a "real" farm store, they didn't have wheat bran in stock so i had to get rice bran (little more expensive so i usually avoid it). the plan is to make as much kashi as i can, have 2x HUGE hay bails plus this 50 lb bag of bran for kashi - a;ready have several gallons of activated em1/labs (mix); picking up panella (raw sugar) and everything will be ready to go.

 

[Avinash.miles]

^ Breeding chamber. "floscout" male (4 gallon pot all his own) can be seen with a whole harem; a shallow 2x2 bed with female clones in it and one 15 gallon pot with all female adolescent plants in it

sorry it's sideways:

^ floscout male; forum gsc x flo

^ Darkhorse Genetics Testers in their own 4x8 tent
violator og x gg1 and darkhorse og x gg1
shown at just before 36 hours lights out period prior to bloom

^ tester tent lights on day 1 of bloom

 

[coldcanna]

Beautiful gardening my friend, that Dosidos looks tasty!

 

[LostTribe]

for bloom boost i don't add any N, so i'd not use the guanokalong fish... something more like 0-5-4 or a 0-10-0 like jamaican bat guano plus something for K like sulpomag (go very very light withsulpomag)

to apply fish bone meal i mix with earthworm casting and top dress; also make an aerated tea with compost, castings and fishbone meal plus molasses and or yucca and panella. often water topdress in with the tea
and plenty of EM1

been trying to get my hands on wheat bran to make bokashi; all the damn farm stores by me give me a funny look when i ask for it, but only 60 miles away in the "big city" they knew just what i was looking for and had big cheap bags of the stuff

Just reminded me to bust out my Jamaican Bat Guano for the Oldtimer's Purple Haze! Forgot about that one its packed long away somewhere....started with a wee bit o'mexican and some indonesian for starters. Guano is king! Best flav's

 

[CaptainTripps]

^ mixed up this brew of dried comfrey, soaked malted barley & malted buckweat, seaweed powder, humic acid concentrate, and em1 and kashi. let it sit 24 hours, and will use it tonite on the plants along with another malted barley & malted buckweat sst that has soaked overnite as well (did quicker washes with them last nite).

Is the comfrey brew for adding nutrients or a way to boost beneficial mycorrhizae? If it's about micro organisms, would it be more beneficial to bubble it while it's brewing?

 

[Avinash.miles]

Is the comfrey brew for adding nutrients or a way to boost beneficial mycorrhizae? If it's about micro organisms, would it be more beneficial to bubble it while it's brewing?

yes, comfrey is for nutrients - it's an accumulator plant, it stores lots of nutrients that it has drawn from the earth in it's plant cells, once broken down by microbial action these nutrients can be made into plant available forms. different microbes can process this plant matter in different methods to obtain a similar outcome:

the lacto bacillus / em1 bacteria are anaerobic (no oxygen) or facultative (can live with or without oxygen) microbes - so there is no need to bubble brews that use the labs/em1 in them....

i bubble compost teas, earthworm casting teas, i even use something called "tea catalyst" from time to time, iirc the catalyst contains comfrey and other plants dried then powdered. bubbling compost teas helps "culture" or multiply a variety of beneficial microbes - the same way that NOT bubbling anaerobic brews helps culture anearobic/facultative microbes.

biggest difference is that there are MANY pathogenic (BAD) anearobes, so it's important to isolate the lactic acid bacteria or use em1 ; it's generally assumed that there won't be many aerobic pathogens in a well bubbled compost tea.

there are traditional techniques where plant matter is simply soaked in water for long periods and then dilluted as a fertilizer (jadam natural farming).
i like the use of em1/labs in fermented (anaerobic) brews because of it's accelerating factor and it's ability to reduce the stank of some of these finished brews

 

[LostTribe]

Your night temps getting down there? Plans for the OD's?

 

[Avinash.miles]

had a lil cold snap.... it's nice now; not cold enough to be done yet
did put a scope on the outdoor and saw some amber
more amber outside than indoor
indoor is nearing it's end, de-leafing and not watering; lites are only on 6 hours for the last few days, nice and cool to finish off the indoor.

tester tent is stretching hard
breeding tent is all seeded up, probably going to kill the male in about another week and leave the ladies to mature free of excess pollen.
next male up is sour bubble; need to stock up some more females to match him.

 

[Jhhnn]

yes, comfrey is for nutrients - it's an accumulator plant, it stores lots of nutrients that it has drawn from the earth in it's plant cells, once broken down by microbial action these nutrients can be made into plant available forms. different microbes can process this plant matter in different methods to obtain a similar outcome:

the lacto bacillus / em1 bacteria are anaerobic (no oxygen) or facultative (can live with or without oxygen) microbes - so there is no need to bubble brews that use the labs/em1 in them....

i bubble compost teas, earthworm casting teas, i even use something called "tea catalyst" from time to time, iirc the catalyst contains comfrey and other plants dried then powdered. bubbling compost teas helps "culture" or multiply a variety of beneficial microbes - the same way that NOT bubbling anaerobic brews helps culture anearobic/facultative microbes.

biggest difference is that there are MANY pathogenic (BAD) anearobes, so it's important to isolate the lactic acid bacteria or use em1 ; it's generally assumed that there won't be many aerobic pathogens in a well bubbled compost tea.

there are traditional techniques where plant matter is simply soaked in water for long periods and then dilluted as a fertilizer (jadam natural farming).
i like the use of em1/labs in fermented (anaerobic) brews because of it's accelerating factor and it's ability to reduce the stank of some of these finished brews

Aerobic teas also don't smell bad like anaerobic mixtures. Indoor growers don't need any more stink than they already have.

A friend brews alpaca manure tea anaerobically for his garden. Works great & stinks to high heaven when agitated or applied. Ugh. The various aerobic teas I've brewed for indoors don't smell like much of anything.

 

[Avinash.miles]

seaf0ur builds little underwater airlocks to cover the stink of anaerobic fermentations.... an air tube from the ferment container to submerged in water. by the time the ferments are finished the smell has usually backed off; smells more like alcohol and less like shit - IF you are using lacto/em1 which i always do, makes a big big difference in the nasty as hell smell department.

aerated teas; more diverse microbe potential depending on the content of the innoculant used (compost, microbe products)
anaerobic brews; more possibilities for nutrient content depending on what plant matter/organic material is fermented

 

[Seaf0ur]

its 2 stage...

waterlock + carbon filter.

you can rot a fish in there and be alright... the waterlock keeps pressure up in the chamber and slows the release of gas...
the slow moving gasses stay in the carbon much longer because of the waterlock... works quite well.