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Rotary garden , Omega garden roto-gro..
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Oh wow haven't seen one of those in 15 years or so. You don't want one! They're worse than the vertical cylinders in every possible way. When the plants rotate up to the top they drip nutrients all over the plants below (and the light).
The vertical cylinders are the better version of this idea and they do yield a lot PER LIGHT because each bulb can evenly light a larger surface area and they don't have reflector losses BUT you can't run nearly as many lights in any given room so your overall yield FOR THE ROOM may be lower even though your yield per light is higher.
The way to go depends on your particular situation. Do you have a huge space but not enough electricity or equipment to fill it with a standard garden style? Then vertical cylinders are the way to go. However if you have the electricity and equipment to run a bunch more lights in a traditional grow then there's less reason to try it.
Either way don't get this one, it was a bad idea
The vertical cylinders are the better version of this idea and they do yield a lot PER LIGHT because each bulb can evenly light a larger surface area and they don't have reflector losses BUT you can't run nearly as many lights in any given room so your overall yield FOR THE ROOM may be lower even though your yield per light is higher.
The way to go depends on your particular situation. Do you have a huge space but not enough electricity or equipment to fill it with a standard garden style? Then vertical cylinders are the way to go. However if you have the electricity and equipment to run a bunch more lights in a traditional grow then there's less reason to try it.
Either way don't get this one, it was a bad idea
You think this system is better ?
https://www.cultureindoor.com/1434-...ertical-pi-rack-215-x-220-cm-pi-technics.html
and how much gram per watt with this system you think its possible ?
https://www.cultureindoor.com/1434-...ertical-pi-rack-215-x-220-cm-pi-technics.html
and how much gram per watt with this system you think its possible ?
CrushnYuba
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Haha.. Yesss... Everyone knows that plant rotisseries grow the most weed... It's more then 3x yield. It's like 5x if your plants constantly get flipped upside down.
CrushnYuba
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I'm totally kidding. You won't grow any weed with a roto grow. Why would turning plants upside down constantly and spinning give you a higher yield. It's just going to make a mess and confuse plants.
The second one you showed could actually grow weed, but don't believe those insane claims. It won't yield anymore then traditional growing. Stadiums were all the rage 10 years ago. Reason no one stuck with them.
The second one you showed could actually grow weed, but don't believe those insane claims. It won't yield anymore then traditional growing. Stadiums were all the rage 10 years ago. Reason no one stuck with them.
CrushnYuba
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No. You need light to grow plants. 2kw of lighting is still only 2kw of lighting. There is only so much energy for plant growth you can get from 2k of light.
The first contraption you posted is terrible. You will stress the plants flipping them around like a rotisserie chicken.
The second contraption will grow you some weed. But it will only yield slightly more then a dialed regular grow. The reason you may yield a little more is because there is no loss of efficiency bouncing light off a reflector. Efficiency loss from a good modern reflector is minimal though.
Allot of people bought these contraptions around 2006. They were selling them in the back of magazines. I had just started Growing and i got one! By 2007-2008 everyone had given up on them.
The first contraption you posted is terrible. You will stress the plants flipping them around like a rotisserie chicken.
The second contraption will grow you some weed. But it will only yield slightly more then a dialed regular grow. The reason you may yield a little more is because there is no loss of efficiency bouncing light off a reflector. Efficiency loss from a good modern reflector is minimal though.
Allot of people bought these contraptions around 2006. They were selling them in the back of magazines. I had just started Growing and i got one! By 2007-2008 everyone had given up on them.
CoastalPlates
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The early design older units had issues, but the current RotoGro units have been refined and redesigned to work exceedingly well according to Frozen Penguin Medical Industries and Miracle Valley Medicinal Alternatives.
Frozen Penguin Master Grower and co-Founder, Anthony Charles states, “We are very excited to move forward with RotoGro as we enter the next phase of our development. Having already ordered our RotoGro/GFS fertigation system we are now ready commence the build-out for Phase One of our facility with RotoGro Hydroponic Garden Systems. We have had our R&D consultants testing the RotoGro Hydroponic Garden Systems for the past 12 months and the yields continue to exceed 7 lbs. of dry flower from each RotoGro Hydroponic Garden System per harvest. It is becoming abundantly clear to us that the RotoGro system produces the lowest cost per gram and the highest yield per square foot of consistent high-quality cannabis in the industry.”
Full quote found in this link:
https://www.asx.com.au/asx/statistics/displayAnnouncement.do?display=pdf&idsId=02093999
Then there's Miracle Valley.
http://miraclevalley.ca/facility/
The President of Miracle Valley, Derek Boyd states, “We have been using the RotoGro system for more than a year while designing and building our state-of-the-art facility. Our collaboration with RotoGro has significantly streamlined our work flows and operational costs. We are confident that the cutting-edge and patented design of the Roto-Gro Rotational Hydroponic Garden System will provide us with the lowest cost per gram and the highest yield per square foot in the lawful cannabis industry. We look forward to continuing our collaborative efforts with RotoGro to further expand our facility utilizing RotoGro Systems and adding a RotoGro fertigation solution as we move from standalone reservoirs to a fully automated and integrated growing operation.”
Full quote found in this link:
https://www.asx.com.au/asx/statistics/displayAnnouncement.do?display=pdf&idsId=02072664
Using gravitropism works and works well. As I said at the start, the early designs had issues but the current RotoGro units obviously work exceedingly well as Frozen Penguin and Miracle Valley have obviously tested them thoroughly to commit to such large installations.
Frozen Penguin Master Grower and co-Founder, Anthony Charles states, “We are very excited to move forward with RotoGro as we enter the next phase of our development. Having already ordered our RotoGro/GFS fertigation system we are now ready commence the build-out for Phase One of our facility with RotoGro Hydroponic Garden Systems. We have had our R&D consultants testing the RotoGro Hydroponic Garden Systems for the past 12 months and the yields continue to exceed 7 lbs. of dry flower from each RotoGro Hydroponic Garden System per harvest. It is becoming abundantly clear to us that the RotoGro system produces the lowest cost per gram and the highest yield per square foot of consistent high-quality cannabis in the industry.”
Full quote found in this link:
https://www.asx.com.au/asx/statistics/displayAnnouncement.do?display=pdf&idsId=02093999
Then there's Miracle Valley.
http://miraclevalley.ca/facility/
The President of Miracle Valley, Derek Boyd states, “We have been using the RotoGro system for more than a year while designing and building our state-of-the-art facility. Our collaboration with RotoGro has significantly streamlined our work flows and operational costs. We are confident that the cutting-edge and patented design of the Roto-Gro Rotational Hydroponic Garden System will provide us with the lowest cost per gram and the highest yield per square foot in the lawful cannabis industry. We look forward to continuing our collaborative efforts with RotoGro to further expand our facility utilizing RotoGro Systems and adding a RotoGro fertigation solution as we move from standalone reservoirs to a fully automated and integrated growing operation.”
Full quote found in this link:
https://www.asx.com.au/asx/statistics/displayAnnouncement.do?display=pdf&idsId=02072664
Using gravitropism works and works well. As I said at the start, the early designs had issues but the current RotoGro units obviously work exceedingly well as Frozen Penguin and Miracle Valley have obviously tested them thoroughly to commit to such large installations.
CoastalPlates
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LOL. No, I do not work for RotoGro, I just did some research.
As shown in the links, companies like Frozen Penguin and Miracle Valley have thoroughly tested the units. I'll leave it at that.
CrushnYuba
Well-known member
Frozen penguin? Is that even a real company? I don't doubt that some someone has bought those contraptions. Every contraption company has testimonials posted but they are probably fictional. I would hardly take testimonials seriously.
I don't doubt roto-grow has improved their design. What i do doubt it's why in the hell flipping your plants around like a rotisserie chicken improves yield.
I don't doubt roto-grow has improved their design. What i do doubt it's why in the hell flipping your plants around like a rotisserie chicken improves yield.
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CoastalPlates
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Hi CrushnYuba.
Frozen Penguin are real as are Miracle Valley. Miracle Valley just recently gained their licence to cultivate, process and sell from Health Canada. Frozen Penguin are in the process of approval. From what I can see they are both private companies and they wouldn't be pumping these big dollars into large facilities without thorough testing.
I know what you mean, but as shown in the links, the quotes were quoted remarks from Miracle Valley and Frozen Penguin management which were released in announcements by RotoGro to the Australian Stock Exchange who have strict guidelines of accountability for reporting. So it would be fair to say that these testimonials are genuine.
https://www.rotogro.com/competitive-advantage/
I am not an expert, but apparently it is a slow rotation and the rotation strengthens the plant and improves yield using the effects of gravitropism. I don't know if that speed of rotation has been adjusted since the early days ?
Apparently it does work, otherwise if it was a lie then it would have been exposed in the testing by Miracle Valley, Frozen Penguin etc.
I have a family member with health problems so it's getting stressful to me now balancing how best to use my time, so I should take a break from researching these things.
I only posted my original post here because, while I was researching, this thread came up on a google search. I thought I would contribute what I had found, no harm intended.
Frozen Penguin are real as are Miracle Valley. Miracle Valley just recently gained their licence to cultivate, process and sell from Health Canada. Frozen Penguin are in the process of approval. From what I can see they are both private companies and they wouldn't be pumping these big dollars into large facilities without thorough testing.
I know what you mean, but as shown in the links, the quotes were quoted remarks from Miracle Valley and Frozen Penguin management which were released in announcements by RotoGro to the Australian Stock Exchange who have strict guidelines of accountability for reporting. So it would be fair to say that these testimonials are genuine.
https://www.rotogro.com/competitive-advantage/
I am not an expert, but apparently it is a slow rotation and the rotation strengthens the plant and improves yield using the effects of gravitropism. I don't know if that speed of rotation has been adjusted since the early days ?
Apparently it does work, otherwise if it was a lie then it would have been exposed in the testing by Miracle Valley, Frozen Penguin etc.
I have a family member with health problems so it's getting stressful to me now balancing how best to use my time, so I should take a break from researching these things.
I only posted my original post here because, while I was researching, this thread came up on a google search. I thought I would contribute what I had found, no harm intended.
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CoastalPlates
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Sorry, something went wrong with the link to in my post above. I've asked admin to remove it.
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CoastalPlates
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Looks like when I pasted the link, the forum defaulted to https when it should have been http
Nothing much to see there yet as the website is a coming soon page at the moment. I assume they'll have the website up and running when they get the Health Canada licence approval, but their Facebook page is active.
The link should be:
Nothing much to see there yet as the website is a coming soon page at the moment. I assume they'll have the website up and running when they get the Health Canada licence approval, but their Facebook page is active.
The link should be:
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CoastalPlates
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Sorry, again the link should be http , I typed that into the post but it changed on posting and I cannot edit my posts. I've asked admin to remove it. I give up.
