Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?

[SpasticGramps]

The Kony 2012 campaign dude spends too much donation money on cars and lavish living for the general public to take him seriously, let alone the State Dept.

That's not true. Why do we have the 100 or so armed military personnel in Uganda chasing someone who hasn't been seen in 6 years? Working with west's puppet dictator Yoweri Museveni who is responsible for over 5 million deaths after invading Congo. We lauded him as the "new generation of African leaders" in the 1990s.

Obama was taking this Kony 2012 militarism marketing campaign seriously a few days ago.

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said the commander in chief backs those behind the viral Internet campaign, designed to bring Ugandan warlord Joseph Kony to justice.

"We congratulate the hundreds of thousands of Americans who have mobilized to this unique crisis of conscience," Carney said at a news conference on Thursday, adding the video has helped raise awareness about the "horrific activities" of the child-recruiting Lord's Resistance Army.

Too many people saw through the BS. I think this dude running around jacking off in public breaking stuff is hilarious. I wonder if O and the Hollywood establishment that pushed the video so hard still supports him and his call for US military intervention to chase a ghost?

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

That's not true. Why do we have the 100 or so armed military personnel in Uganda chasing someone who hasn't been seen in 6 years? Working with west's puppet dictator Yoweri Museveni who is responsible for over 5 million deaths after invading Congo. We lauded him as the "new generation of African leaders" in the 1990s.

Obama was taking this Kony 2012 militarism marketing campaign seriously a few days ago.



Too many people saw through the BS. I think this dude running around jacking off in public breaking stuff is hilarious. I wonder if O still supports him and his call for militarism to chase a ghost?

IMO, y'all hope Obama will whack his personal M-16 before the election so he'll look like the crazy bastards. Then we can say that nobody will steer our course except Ron Paul.

Take another look. But instead of the candidates, look at the numbers they represent. Obama campaigned on pretty much what he's doing in the defense arena. I respect Ron Paul and I also respect Ron Paul supporters, in the numbers they represent. IMO, all views deserve consideration. In the 2008 election we had a dove, a self-professed defender and a former military guy that some were actually afraid of knowing the launch codes. 69 million Americans had their say before Obama continued addressing our threats while rescinding policies we've always shunned.

 

[bentom187]

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[SpasticGramps]

IMO, y'all hope Obama will whack his personal M-16 before the election so he'll look like the crazy bastards. Then we can say that nobody will steer our course except Ron Paul.

The AFRICOM thing is a continuation of Bush policies. Just because O spouts empty dove rhetoric and is cloaked in a phony Peace Prize doesn't mean he is one. His job is too keep the perpetual war going for the establishment. Sure, he isn't McCain who there isn't a country that he doesn't want to invade, but at the end of the day they both serve the same interests.

And it isn't ours.

 

[bentom187]

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[SacredBreh]

What an excellent post!

What an excellent post!

It's funny. The first professional investor (Biderman of TrimLabs) that came out in 09 and said that the FED was actively manipulating the stock market was initially blasted on CNBC as a "conspiracy theorist". Now, not only is it common knowledge, but the same CNBC talking heads and other lemming professional investors applaud the FED for manipulating stock prices and constantly ramble on about how this is a good thing!

The lawlessness is everywhere and it is overt for anyone paying attention. Most won't care until it is far too late for them.

America's next revolution won't happen with a million man march or protests in the street. There is no collectivist solution to a collectivist problem. The collectivist elites laugh at our Tea Party and OWS movement's as they are quickly co-oped into a herd of useful idiots. The next American revolution must happen within each individual as they lose faith in the current/old paradigm and move onto something anew.

It's why I changed my signature to my new favorite Einstein quote:It is said the men go mad in herds and they only come to their senses one by one.

Just what I needed to hear and makes every bit of sense! Some times the situation is just over whelming if you care about more than the little ant trails that have become our every day lives.

What a positive and insightful solution! I believe we are seeing that type of "Revolution" in it's infant stage. The change must come from each of us and now that you point it out, that is exactly what is happening. Not just here in our country but abroad. It is my belief that Dr. Paul just by running and inspiring people to open their eyes and question is making a huge difference. Even if they do not believe in his particular solutions, it has caused many to see the "Matrix" we live in from a more motivated and enlightened point of view. I had never heard that particular quote by Einstein but it is a great one for this situation.

Thanks for the bit of enlightenment your post gave me.

Peace

 

[T_B_M]

Too bad Ron Paul wasn't a factor and will never be. The media shunned him until December/January and now you don't hear or see him anymore. Its all Romney and Santorum in the news. Gingrich lost everyone except the really dumb people with his $2.50 a gallon platform, lmao. If I were a republican I would be scared because Romney isn't on the extreme right like they want and Santorum is a religious nutjob. Nothing will change under Romney, he will do as told if he wins, just like Obama did. Where is the transparency he promised back in '08? Where is all my tax money going? I'm still waiting for Obama to live up to his promises. All we have is a failing health care system and entitlement programs that ring up the debt.

Its a system by and for the rich, and always will be until a revolt happens or people wise up and vote with their brains, not how the TV tells them. Quit watching these biased idiots on Fox and CNN who report non-issues like "who said what" and the "war on women". I don't see how a majority of Americans don't see that its all a facade. Sadly, no one wants to research anything and rely on the TV for their information. Reforming voting policies might be a start. Getting rid of career politicians will also be a step in the right direction. Term limits for all political positions. They are supposed to be for the people, not for themselves and donors, which is what happens with career politicians.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

^Ron Paul is winning the American's elect candidacy by a lot. We will be hearing from him.

Also no kidding about the career politicians. it is time for term limits on all public office. governors and senators should not be royalty of their state. George Washington would agree.

 

[zymos]

Its a system by and for the rich, and always will be until a revolt happens or people wise up and vote with their brains, not how the TV tells them. Quit watching these biased idiots on Fox and CNN who report non-issues like "who said what" and the "war on women". I don't see how a majority of Americans don't see that its all a facade

If you don't think the " war on women" is (STILL) an actual "issue", then you are either not paying attention or just a misogynist...

 

[lost in a sea]

“A sure sign of a genius is that all of the dunces are in a confederacy against him.”
Frank Lloyd Wright

^^a quote i came accross and i thought of ron lol,, and here's an old quote from him in 1987 below:

“The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.”
Congressman Ron Paul, 1987

 

[ShroomDr]

im fucking pissed they canceled the last debate (scheduled for tonight).

Im all for term limits... do you all realize Ron Paul would have disappeared 10+ years ago with term limits?

anyone have a clue who will be running for the Dems in 2016? Joe Biden might as well be nancy reagen when it comes to drugs, and you cant seriously think Hilldog will be brought back out, she will be close to 70.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Biden won't run for president. IMO, Hillary will and so will Gub Cuomo. Anybody opting out of 2012 over inevitability won't have an easier time in '16.

 

[monkey5]

The media you are speaking of..are owned by Mitt Romney and the elites!

The media you are speaking of..are owned by Mitt Romney and the elites!

Too bad Ron Paul wasn't a factor and will never be. The media shunned him until December/January and now you don't hear or see him anymore. Its all Romney and Santorum in the news. Gingrich lost everyone except the really dumb people with his $2.50 a gallon platform, lmao. If I were a republican I would be scared because Romney isn't on the extreme right like they want and Santorum is a religious nutjob. Nothing will change under Romney, he will do as told if he wins, just like Obama did. Where is the transparency he promised back in '08? Where is all my tax money going? I'm still waiting for Obama to live up to his promises. All we have is a failing health care system and entitlement programs that ring up the debt.

Its a system by and for the rich, and always will be until a revolt happens or people wise up and vote with their brains, not how the TV tells them. Quit watching these biased idiots on Fox and CNN who report non-issues like "who said what" and the "war on women". I don't see how a majority of Americans don't see that its all a facade. Sadly, no one wants to research anything and rely on the TV for their information. Reforming voting policies might be a start. Getting rid of career politicians will also be a step in the right direction. Term limits for all political positions. They are supposed to be for the people, not for themselves and donors, which is what happens with career politicians.

~~The media you are speaking of..are owned by Mitt Romney & the elites! There for you have NO CHANCE to hear any truth from those sources! That is also "WHY" .. they want so badly to control the internet!! monkey5

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Does anybody recognize Ron's arguably unconventional media approach?

The media doesn't make the news, the candidates do. Don't take my word for it, just wait until Rick and or Mitt say something stupid.

Listen to Ron's media intentions and we learn that Ron eschews traditional media for youtube and internet vehicles. Beyond that, Ron Paul has to make news or Ron's media people have to schedule media events. Beyond that, Paul would require numbers in order to to attract media attention.

A couple months back, Paul complained about lack of media coverage. So major press coverage was scheduled and arranged at a campaign rally. Paul walked out of the room because even Paul knows that reporters tend to ask the questions that get glossed over in the circus of campaign rhetoric.

Ron Paul knows that all Ron Paul has to do is instruct his media people to contact major media (in the event he indeed wants major media coverage.) Ron Paul knows that aside from campaign embeds, Ron Paul has to make news to be news. This could be win percentages, message details - anything that constitutes news that's worthy of reporting.

Follow the campaign wire-to-wire and we hear charges of too little media attention. Look for Ron Paul's strategies and tactics to overcome his general unpopularity (like explaining some of his more radical proposals) we get charges of lying, cheating and fraud. That stuff gets stale very fast.

 

[lost in a sea]

That stuff gets stale very fast.

DB your arguement gets stale much faster bro

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Fair enough. I guess I could just generalize and wait to see if others fill in the details I've yet to endorse.

 

[SacredBreh]

^^^^^^ lost in a sea-- I was thinkin' it but you said it. I just try to not respond or just ignore him.

Peace

 

[ShroomDr]

I think Dr Paul biggest detriment is his 'unconventional media approach'.

First, 'unconventional'... defined as 'coming from a politician'... maybe... but its not like he ends every sentence with 'the rent is too damn high'...

I would say RON's biggest problem is his 'kid gloves'. I guess you could call this unconventional. You cant be all 'lion', all attack, no cooth. Nor can you be all 'fox', all cunning, nuanced.

Ron needs to show his teeth. Go after they system/machine that keeps 'small towners' like him and his followers down.

Ron doesnt do this, he never attacks, he sticks with his message. Noble perhaps, but noble doesnt (normally) win.

If Ron had Newts 'attack' skills, "Romney" would just be the Jeopardy answer to "who couldnt buy the GOP nomination in 2008"? (instead of "who couldnt do it in 2008, but succeeded in 2012!")


You need both fox and lion.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

I think Dr Paul biggest detriment is his 'unconventional media approach'.

First, 'unconventional'... defined as 'coming from a politician'... maybe... but its not like he ends every sentence with 'the rent is too damn high'...

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I would say RON's biggest problem is his 'kid gloves'. I guess you could call this unconventional. You cant be all 'lion', all attack, no cooth. Nor can you be all 'fox', all cunning, nuanced.

Ron needs to show his teeth. Go after they system/machine that keeps 'small towners' like him and his followers down.

Ron doesnt do this, he never attacks, he sticks with his message. Noble perhaps, but noble doesnt (normally) win.

If Ron had Newts 'attack' skills, "Romney" would just be the Jeopardy answer to "who couldnt buy the GOP nomination in 2008"? (instead of "who couldnt do it in 2008, but succeeded in 2012!")


You need both fox and lion.

IMO, he could be a little more open.

If what pundits say is true (Ron Reagan said it this morning) and Ron Paul is running an issues campaign and not a presidential campaign, why wouldn't Rand Paul spark enough interest to see if he's aligned with any of his dad's policy ideas?

Rand won his senate seat, in part supporting the repeal of civil rights laws. Some of it sounds familiar with Ron's disagreements with the Civil Rights Act.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

^^^^^^ lost in a sea-- I was thinkin' it but you said it. I just try to not respond or just ignore him.

Peace

I don't care who you ignore. What I consider astounding is unfounded charges of cheating. Even citations posted here indicate election officials have disagreements in the rules process. Settling disputes is part of the brokered-convention function.

It's one thing to express disagreement with interpretation. Saying the organization one wishes to lead is "cheating" (especially when the organization has yet to establish a decision) is sour grapes.