Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?

[DiscoBiscuit]

That don't mean I beleive all I read......Man you are are getting bad at arguing!

Where's yer proof? dag says media accounts and publications based on legal opinion aren't valid. It has to come from the .gub website. I guess in this case it would have to be .gab

LMAO, you said I added crazy becuase you hadn't said anything for me to add that was bad.....PAY ATTENTION- I was talking to him and not you DUH

Then why did you link MY post instead of his? Einstein.

JK means JUST KIDDING It reads like this..... Elitist JK! Then again you state that I was talking to you by saying, "take it up with him."

I WAS!!! I was hitting two birds with one sentence!

Yep, your collateral damage exceeds your target alright. Nice double entendre.

 

[Rukind]

That don't mean I beleive all I read......Man you are are getting bad at arguing!



LMAO, you said I added crazy becuase you hadn't said anything for me to add that was bad.....PAY ATTENTION- I was talking to him and not you DUH

JK means JUST KIDDING It reads like this..... Elitist JK! Then again you state that I was talking to you by saying, "take it up with him."

I WAS!!! I was hitting two birds with one sentence!

If you are a FREEMASON then you are and ELITIST! That is a label YOU PUT ON YOURSELF! WHAT DEGREE FREEMASON??? TO BIG A SECRET? WHY IS THAT? I GOT NOT SECRETS LIKE THAT! It is not surprise to me that you are an ELITIES. If you are ignorant then I suggest you read up on your Satanic friends and links and not be in a RON PAUL THREAD. You obviously have no interest in RON PAUL as you have been here daily and while we had to beat info out of you....We know you want every single GUBBYNATI PROGRAM they are pushing. You hate RON PAUL and you have been pushing the exact same crap as mainstream media in most cases.

I don think all free masons are evil or anything like that. I am sure you got your good ones and your bad ones. Nothing wrong with secrets.

 

[itisme]

When it comes to free masons. I dont think they are evil or any of that shit. I am actually really interested in free mason.

I have a FREEMASON in my family by marrage. His daughters don't know shit about it. Me and my cousin informed them of a few things and they called their dad and said if this ever did anything sacriligious he would never see his grandkids.

FREEMASON on the low level are just pawns and most don't know crap. Once you get ABOVE the 33 DEGREE is where shit gets crazy. That is where the sacrifices begin from what I know. Then you get into the Satinic aspects. I know not all the FREEMASON are bad people but they are part of an ELITIST CLUB. That is a fact and they are secretive because of the Satanic and Nazi aspects of it.

Don't mess with the FREEMASON. All kinds of things appear to be good. I used to be for the EPA, FDA, UN, WTO DHS, FEMA until I learned more about them and how they work. They really are just power stuctures put in place to supress us.

Hell just look up TESLA and how he created free electicity in the early 1900's

Tesla demonstrated wireless energy transfer to power electronic devices in 1891,[6] and aspired to intercontinental wireless transmission of industrial power in his unfinished Wardenclyffe Tower project.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla

This is just a glimpse of the suppresion....WIRELESS POWLESS FREE ELECTICITY!!!!

Then we all know about the weed suppression!

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

"My local Masonic lodge" is actually the VFW. We don't have a temple so the Masons hang out and drink with the regular folks. A few veterans don't trust em and don't like em - but it's a free country.

 

[itisme]

Nothing wrong with secrets.

If the are running our Gov't and their allgence isn't first and formost to the American people then there is an issue in my book. If it has to do with his personal life only and no effect on others, I agree.

When it has to do with Satanic cults in our Govenment then I disagree.

 

[itisme]

"My local Masonic lodge" is actually the VFW. We don't have a temple so the Masons hang out and drink with the regular folks. A few veterans don't trust em and don't like em - but it's a free country.

Like I said, "What degree are you?" I know most of the clubs are gone now...Hiding in plain site phase intiated.

 

[Rukind]

Maybe some high degree people are into satanism and maybe some aren't. From what I understand, the only thing you have to believe in to be a mason is some sort of god. Doesn't matter which one.

I dont think they appear to be good or bad. I see everything in life as a duality. Everything has its opposite. A lot of my interest are in a book called the kybalion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kybalion which shares a lot of the same principles of hermeticism and alchmey. basically that all is mind. I believe free mason was kind of built off of hermeticism.

 

[itisme]

Youtube SVALI EX ILLUMINATI

She was born into it and tells quite the first hand story. Yes she could be making it up but man that is one insane interview.

 

[Rukind]

If the are running our Gov't and their allgence isn't first and formost to the American people then there is an issue in my book. If it has to do with his personal life only and no effect on others, I agree.

When it has to do with Satanic cults in our Govenment then I disagree.

You classify things as satanic cults, but that mite not be the case.. Also, someone has to run the gov't. only because, someone is going to have more power than another person. Thats the way things work in life. thats just how it is. big fish eats little fish.

just like alex jones says dmt is evil and talks about satanic elves and all that.

I have done dmt, a lot. I have met those so called entities.. some are evil, some aren't. dmt and psychodelics are not evil. they are what you want them to be.

Some people love to fight on acid.. some people love on acid. It depends on who you are.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Like I said, "What degree are you?"

"Degree" is just a shiny object to keep folks like you guessing, I would guess.

I know most of the clubs are gone now...Hiding in plain site phase intiated.

Yeah, they're hiding alright. That's why they wear their order adorned accessories at public events.

Clubs are gone... Yet they still rent their buildings and still meet every week, month, quarter year, whatever.

me, don't be the thread gooney bird.

 

[Rukind]

Honestly, I believe a socialism is the best form of gov't. I just think the wrong people are in power and none of us are going to do anything about it. We dont have much of a choice in it right now.

Even though I believe in socialism, ron paul seems like the best candidate to me. thats why i am putting my effort into him. he isn't perfect but he relates to me the most and I feel he has good intentions. I feel I can trust him more than others and I am going with my instinct.

 

[itisme]

You classify things as satanic cults, but that mite not be the case

Accoring to duality it "IS" and "ISN'T"

but according to POLARITY if there is a Satan then there is a GOD. If somebody has to run my Government I prefer they not worship Satan. I prefer the worship God.

I am only responding with information I read or heard so I agree I have not concrete proof of anything. I also agree that GOOD/BAD are relative terms I have to use some type of description when referng to these things. Yes it is my interpretation of those things but I have posted and noted many things that lend credence to my thoughts. That don't mean I am right, but it also don't mean I am wrong.

 

[itisme]

Yeah, they're hiding alright. That's why they wear their order adorned accessories at public events.

Clubs are gone... Yet they still rent their buildings and still meet every week, month, quarter year, whatever.

me, don't be the thread gooney bird.

You mean a FREEMASON is calling me insane. I am shocked.

You know you guys meet RELIGIOUSLY, if I went by your schedule.

You FREEMASONS meet as much as people in the South go to Church.

I find that very fitting.

 

[itisme]

Honestly, I believe a socialism is the best form of gov't.

When you just read it and contenplate it, it sounds great. When it gets practiced it is a disaster.

The best Government that has been created was in this country. We are far from that now. Our Constitution and Bill of Rights are two of the most amazing documents ever produced and they are what made this Country great.

The best Goverment is the that Governs least. Socailism is TYRANNY!

 

[trichrider]

http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_n...8-paul-gains-ground-on-romney-in-maine-caucus

 

[Rukind]

Accoring to duality it "IS" and "ISN'T"

but according to POLARITY if there is a Satan then there is a GOD. If somebody has to run my Government I prefer they not worship Satan. I prefer the worship God.

I am only responding with information I read or heard so I agree I have not concrete proof of anything. I also agree that GOOD/BAD are relative terms I have to use some type of description when referng to these things. Yes it is my interpretation of those things but I have posted and noted many things that lend credence to my thoughts. That don't mean I am right, but it also don't mean I am wrong.

if there is a satan or god is a big if. there is good and bad and thats basically what we call satan and god just different terms for it.

yes good and bad is all relative. I dont believe any person is all good. So the chances of someone running the country that is perfectly good is never going to happen. Some people can be more good than bad and others could be more bad than good.

I dont want anyone running the country that worships any god or satan to be honest. I would rather have an open minded gov't that is open to all possibilities. Hopefully, more good than bad. That is only my opinion, though. That candidate does not exist.. However, I think paul is more good than bad.

 

[Cojito]

I dont understand why people are so disrespectful to other people's thoughts. Anyone who thinks outside the normal spectrum (which i beleive is developed by culture and the media) is a nutjob. I always here about this tin foil hat bullshit.

you mean be kind to the kids on the short bus? or do you mean we should include unreasonable people in our policy decisions?

we all need to have good reasons for what we believe. logical reasons. lets say you and i are going fishing. NOAA says a bad storm is imminent. you put on your tin foil hat and say fuck that, you don't trust the federal government, and anyway, you don't believe what you hear in the laimstream media. now we really need a good reason to ignore the dangerous forecast; our lives hang in the balance. did you give me a good reason to go fishing?

sloppy thinking kills. and if we survive our fishing trip i'll have a hard time taking you seriously ever again. and i'll be angry with myself for believing in such lunacy. we all must discriminate bad thinking from the good. we all dismiss people who can't articulate logical thought. it would be suicidal to do otherwise.

 

[Rukind]

you mean be kind to the kids on the short bus? or do you mean we should include unreasonable people in our policy decisions?

we all need to have good reasons for what we believe. logical reasons. lets say you and i are going fishing. NOAA says a bad storm is imminent. you put on your tin foil hat and say fuck that, you don't trust the federal government, and anyway, you don't believe what you hear in the laimstream media. now we really need a good reason to ignore the dangerous forecast; our lives hang in the balance. did you give me a good reason to go fishing?

sloppy thinking kills. and if we survive our fishing trip i'll have a hard time taking you seriously ever again. and i'll be angry with myself for believing in such lunacy. we all must discriminate bad thinking from the good. we all dismiss people who can't articulate logical thought. it would be suicidal to do otherwise.

but what you think is bad thinking mite not be. You say questioning the gov't and all conspiracies are crazy.. but they aren't.. that is not the definition of insane. that is only thinking outside the average spectrum.

They may not be fact, but they are not false either. so why do you discriminate against it so much? do you fear that such situations could be true so you just block it out and say, no, that is impossible? because it doesn't fit your view of culture and society.

I am not saying there is a new world order but im not saying there isn't one either. or that it is bad or good.

If you aren't open to that possibility, you are not open minded.

the truth is, itsme could be completely right.. you could also be right.. but stop calling each other crazy because we are never gonna know the truth if we keep it up.

just like religion.. i think atheist are just as bad as christians.. you both say you know for a fact what the truth is and neither of you know. so stop fighting over it.. I cant wait until we can get passed this for the sake of humanity.

we are on a downward spiral if we cannot respect each other.

Itsme is not equal to a kid on a short bus if thats what you are saying.. which is highly disrespectful.. I have worked with plenty of retarded kids and they dont often talk about the new world order and gov't conspiracies..

You can take the conspiracy stuff too far if you dont have an open mind and realize that not all of it is fact.. I find its best to hang in the middle.. Accept that you dont know. It helps you learn. Idea's are never a bad thing.

You are a problem if you believe your thinking is the only "good" thinking. you are sadly mistaken.. you are missing out on the beauty of humanity. Not everything is one sided my friend.

There is nothing illogical about a conspiracy. The word "conspiracy" just doesn't sit right with you because of the way culture has shaped it for you.

 

[itisme]

I dont want anyone running the country that worships any god or satan to be honest. I would rather have an open minded gov't that is open to all possibilities.

You seem to have removed the possibilty of somebody worshipping God can have an open mind. I think I have an open mind and Ron Paul too. We believe in God and are Christians but we also understand we can't force our views on anybody. That is why Ron Paul says let the states handle the social isssues and that creates a local that can create and enforce those rules, they aren't done at a Federal level. I think Ron Paul is a great blend of Gov't and Religion.....He isn't forcing anything but FREEDOM on US

I do admit I think if somebody worships Satan that they are up to no good though. I am not open minded enough to think they are hoping to good for others....Maybe I can admit they may think they are doing good for themselves.

I love some of your thought processes and I agree with you on many levels.

 

[Rukind]

You seem to have removed the possibilty of somebody worshipping God and an open mind. I think I have an open mind and Ron Paul too. We believe in God and are Christians but we also understand we can't force our views on anybody. That is why Ron Paul says let the states handle the social isssues and that creates a local force that makes up those rules, they aren't done at a Federal level. I think Ron Paul is a great blend of Gov't and Religion.....He isn't forcing anything but FREEDOM on US

I believe you have an open mind, somewhat.

If you believe that you know for sure what happens at death, your mind is not open when it comes to death.

To be truly open minded, you must be aware that you dont know, because you have not yet had that experience.

Also, I believe you should to be more open minded about your conspiracies. That you may not know. Not that they are bad idea's. Just be open to changes.


I dont know about you, but golden streets doesn't make much sense to me. Why do I even care about golden streets or 42 virgins when I die?

If its anything like doing dmt, which i assume is possible, it will be completely different than you can even grasp.. in that case, dying would be like losing the "self". all human qualities are stripped away. I kind of believe smoking dmt is simliar to dying. I could be wrong and I accept that, but that is as close to death as i have ever been. I have done it multiple times.

Also consciousness doesn't not require a brain.. there is a some research out there that says plants may be even more conscious than us. Mycelium is even sentient. Just imagine, cannabis could even read your thoughts. If mycelium can be sentient, why cant a plant? Also, maybe they are so conscious they could be telepathic. Calll me crazy.

"I feel very strongly about the telepathic nature of plants, which has been demonstrated by various people. There was a lot of publicity about fifteen or twenty years ago by a guy named Jim Backster, who put electrodes, like lie-detector electrodes, galvanic response meter, onto plants, and found that you could threaten them with fire, or even think about threatening them with fire, and they'd react. He found this reaction on every plant he tried it on.

My own experiences with psychedelics led me to believe that plants are highly conscious entities. Very conscious. And they're not troubled by having an ego, because they don't have to make a decision. The ego is a restricted kind of consciousness that an animal has to have in order to be able to sort out and just accept some input so as to make a decision to do something. Because if you have all inputs all the time, you're almost unable to make a decision. It's too much data. Too much stuff. You're swamped. A plant doesn't have to make much in the way of decisions; it roots where its seed fell. That's it.

But it does express itself in various ways. One example is the orchid that resembles a certain bee. So completely does it resemble a female bee that the males trv to mate with it. It smells like the bee, and it looks like the bee, and it's shaped in such a way that when the male grabs it, his head pushes up against the pollinia, which are the pollen balls that stick to him. And he attempts to mate. And he leaves that flower and goes to another one and tries again. He leaves the pollinia that he picked up from the first one and picks up a pair from that one. And he might actually hump a dozen flowers in turn, right? This may reduce his ability to mate with the proper female of his species, but it does the flower's thing.

And yet flowers have no eyes. Orchids have no eyes. To imitate the female, the plant has to know what it looks like. So the plant knows what it looks like. Not only does it know what it looks like, it has to understand the practices that that animal undergoes in order to put itself in there to take advantage of that. A plant growing out in the wild is usually very weak. As they say, wild grass is no good. It's trash. But when people grow it, it keeps getting stronger and stronger."

Also do you know that only carnivore's are effected by cannabis? No herbivore's or omnivore's can get high from thc. A deer can eat a pound and not feel a thing

Whats that say about humans? remember my diet post?