Roe v Wade overturned.

[Hempy McNoodle]

Anything but address the fact that republicans want to force a pregnant 10 year old to deliver a rapists baby.

And, of course, investigate the doctor that performed the abortion. **NOT THE DOCTORS REPORT OF THE ABUSE AND PROCEDURE**

I'm now hearing that Ohio does not ban abortions in cases of rape. So, now people are wondering if the mom was complicit in the trafficking of a child. Was the child taken out of state for other reasons? Or was the story entirely made up? The mom is saying that the man is innocent and that her daughter is fine...

 

[buzzmobile]

Ohio does not ban abortions in cases of rape.

Ohio AG clarifies Ohio abortion ban exemptions

Ohio's six-week abortion ban contains three exemptions in the legislation.

www.13abc.com

COLUMBUS, Ohio (WTVG) - The Ohio Attorney General’s Office is clarifying what exemptions exist in Ohio’s newly-implemented abortion ban.

An explainer issued by Ohio AG Dave Yost’s office Thursday said there are three exemptions to the state’s heartbeat law that bans abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detected, approximately six weeks into a pregnancy and before many women know they are pregnant.

Yost says there are three exemptions to the abortion ban:

• Cases of ectopic pregnancy
• Cases that would cause death of the mother
• Cases that cause a serious risk of substantial, irreversible impairment to a major bodily function of the mother

The explanation goes on to clarify that whether the exemptions apply to a given case depends on the facts of that case.

You can find further analysis of the exemptions in the attorney general’s explainer here. You can read the text of the legislation in full below.

 

[buzzmobile]

It appears that a 10-year-old rape victim had to leave Ohio for an abortion, but Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine isn’t commenting on the fact that a law he signed would have made that necessary if she didn’t want to become a mother.


Shortly after the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v .Wade and cleared the way for the law to take effect, the child was on her way to Indiana for an abortion because she couldn’t get one in Ohio, an Indianapolis OB-GYN told the Indianapolis Star. The doctor, Caitlin Bernard, told the paper that an Ohio child-abuse doctor had called, saying the child was six weeks and three days pregnant and needed help.

That was three days after the six-week limit the DeWine-signed law places on abortion in Ohio. It makes no exceptions for women and children who are victims of rape and incest.

The story has made national news, but DeWine seemed unprepared on June 6 to discuss whether legislation he championed is forcing children out of state if they don’t want to have their rapists’ babies.

“Yeah, first of all, I have no more information than you do or anybody does. Reading in in the paper, it came came as you know, from a story out of out of Indiana from from a doctor over there,” he said as part of a rambling answer to a question from the Cincinnati Enquirer, according to a transcript.

DeWine went on to say it was “gut-wrenching” as a father and grandfather to think about a 10-year-old being raped, and that he hoped the doctors caring for her reported the assault to law enforcement. But he didn’t address the fact that a law he signed put girls like her in such an onerous situation.


In a follow-up on June 7, DeWine's Press Secretary Dan Tierney was asked whether the governor thinks juvenile rape victims who become pregnant should be able to get abortions, or whether he believes they should be forced to carry their pregnancies to term. Tierney didn’t answer directly.


“You have access to Governor DeWine’s recent comments on these issues, including that the only information available on the Indiana matter was from Indiana media reports,” Tierney said in an email. “I do not have further comment for you beyond yesterday’s remarks and the Governor’s numerous and extensive comments since the Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade."


While DeWine and his spokesman underscored that media reports were all they knew about the incident involving the Ohio 10-year-old, there have been warnings that something like this was likely to happen.


Shortly after DeWine signed the six-week ban in 2019, CBS News reported on an Ohio 11-year-old who was repeatedly raped by a 26-year-old, impregnating her. If the Ohio law was cleared by the Supreme Court, the story said, the girl could be left with few options after six weeks of pregnancy.


At six weeks, as many as a third of women don’t know they’re pregnant, and it’s a safe bet that even fewer girls do. And while statistics on pregnancies resulting from rape are sparse, it seems likely that Ohio and other states that don’t allow abortions in cases of rape or incest are going to force more children into the most difficult of situations.


The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that about 18 million women experience vaginal rape in their lifetimes and that almost 3 million become pregnant from it. The 2018 research from which those statistics were drawn said it was “the first in over 20 years to offer a nationally representative prevalence estimate of (rape-related pregnancy) of U.S. women…”


That’s an apparent reference to a 1996 paper published in the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology. It was based on a three-year survey of 4,008 women that sought to determine “the prevalence and incidence of rape and related physical and mental health outcomes.”


Its findings relating to young rape victims are not reassuring.


“Among 34 cases of rape-related pregnancy, the majority occurred among adolescents and resulted from assault by a known, often related perpetrator,” an abstract of the study said. “Only 11.7% of these victims received immediate medical attention after the assault, and 47.1% received no medical attention related to the rape.”


It added that almost a third of adolescent rape victims didn’t know they were pregnant for 12 weeks — more than double the point at which their abortions would now be illegal in Ohio.


“A total 32.4% of these victims did not discover they were pregnant until they had already entered the second trimester; 32.2% opted to keep the infant whereas 50% underwent abortion and 5.9% placed the infant for adoption; an additional 11.8% had spontaneous abortion,” the paper said.


DeWine and his spokesman were reluctant this week to say whether he thinks young rape victims should be forced to carry pregnancies to term. But his office earlier this month confirmed his support of a bill restricting abortion in Ohio even further — and also making no exceptions for rape and incest.


For Aileen Day, communications director for Planned Parenthood Advocates of Ohio, DeWine owns the consequences of the abortion bills he signs — whether he addresses them directly or not.


“DeWine signed the six-week ban into law and he is the reason the 10-year-old Ohioan had (to) jump through repeated obstacles to get the health care she needed,” Day said in an email. “It is truly disgusting that he’s not being held accountable for all the harm he has caused Ohio. DeWine’s team has bragged that he is the most anti-abortion governor in Ohio’s history and his history backs that up by signing 10 dangerous abortion restrictions and bans into law.”

A version of this story was originally published by the Ohio Capital Journal and republished here with permission.

The mom is saying that the man is innocent and that her daughter is fine...

I'd read a link to that claim.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

"While DeWine and his spokesman underscored that media reports were all they knew about the incident involving the Ohio 10-year-old, there have been warnings that something like this was likely to happen."

So, an Ohio "child abuse doctor" sent this girl to another state to arrange an abortion and did not file a police report? That makes them complicit in a Human Trafficking operation (possibly). This story just keeps getting weirder and weirder.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Shortly after DeWine signed the six-week ban in 2019, CBS News reported on an Ohio 11-year-old who was repeatedly raped by a 26-year-old, impregnating her. If the Ohio law was cleared by the Supreme Court, the story said, the girl could be left with few options after six weeks of pregnancy.

Keeps getting weirder and weirder...

The other case mentioned is form 2019 and was remarkably similar. The case came about within days of a highly controversial change in Ohio's state abortion laws. The rapist was an undocumented person from Guatemala who lived in her home.

The more Hempy digs, the more questions Hempy has...

OHIO: 11-Year-Old Raped, Pregnant by Juan Leon-Gomez from Guatemala * 100PercentFedUp.com * by Leisa Audette

The rape of a child in Ohio was 100% preventable… Are sanctuary cities endangering our citizens in the name of […]

100percentfedup.com

A pregnant 11-year-old rape victim in Ohio would no longer be allowed to have an abortion under new state law

Under Ohio's new "heartbeat bill," abortions after about six weeks are prohibited, even if the pregnancy is a result of rape or incest

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

I'd read a link to that claim.

It's a video news report from Telemundo...

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Some of the legal issues which could be cleared up are the following:

There is no legal definition or understanding which answers the fundamental legal question of 'when does life begin?'
There is a legal precedent which has been set which says that if a drunk driver or murderer kills a pregnant woman, that person can be charged for the deaths of two people (the woman and her unborn child). This is a legal precedent which suggests that life starts before birth. So, how can a doctor willfully destroy the life of a healthy baby and not be charged with murder?

Another issue, is that if a man gets a woman pregnant through accidental means and if that man does not want to be burdened with a child and is not in a relationship with the woman (perhaps she does not like him), the man will still be forced to pay for the cost of raising the child and has no CHOICE in the matter. So, either forced-palimony should be done away with or men should have the ability to force a woman to have an abortion, right? (This is a tough legal question and I'm not seriously taking a position on this. I'm just illustrating some of the complex legal issues surrounding abortion). The idea is to have a coherent and cohesive legal system without all of these exceptions, questions, and double-standards.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Sometimes I think the best resolution is to have live fetal removal for any woman anytime (rather than abortion). Every attempt will be made to provide incubational life support for the developing baby and it will become an orphan of the state. It is sad, but would resolve nearly every issue pertaining to abortion related controversy in the US.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

I'm glad I wasn't aborted. There would be no GREAT AWAKENING thread on ICMAG. Can you imagine...

How about you all?

Aren't you glad you weren't aborted?

 

[GOT_BUD?]

Republicans want to tell you what books you can read, what meds you can take, what words you can say, what history you can learn, what you can do with your uterus, what gender you are & who you can love… but tell me more about how the Dems are “coming for your freedoms”.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Republicans want to tell you what books you can read, what meds you can take, what words you can say, what history you can learn, what you can do with your uterus, what gender you are & who you can love… but tell me more about how the Dems are “coming for your freedoms”.

Well, let's break this down a little (because this is a great example of twisted projection)...

Republicans aren't trying to tell people what they can or can't read. That would be the Democrats. Obama is the one who launched the 'countering fakenews and propaganda act' which was falsely named (of course). Obviously, you are referring to republican efforts to keep inappropriate groomer porn out of public schools (like it has always been). That is not a ban on any book. That's like saying the guy at the convenience store is 'banning books' because he refused to sell a porno mag to a minor.

As for, "what words they can say"... Once again, it is the democrats who are cancelling words and demanding everyone adopt their "newspeak" (it's like Orwell's '1984'). I'm guessing you are referring to what the democrats falsely refer to as the "don't say gay bill." But, there is no such thing as a "don't say gay" bill. It is something the democrats, fakenews, and celebrities simply made up.

What history you can learn. This goes both ways, but in the end, this is a public school system, not a private school. Teaching kids to hate white people and to hate America is not the purpose of a public education system (or, at least, it should not be). There was a recent report on reading abilities of ten year olds across the US, and reading scores are lower than ever. But, one thing these kids seem to have learned very well is that white people should all just die, America must collapse, and it is definitely a good idea to have a doctor chop off their dicks and turn their privates into a Frankensteinian 'vagina.'

"What you can do with your uterus"... The mantra for the jab was 'if it saves just one life...' What's wrong with the states deciding abortion availability (democratic way)?

"What gender you are and who you can love." This is just non-sense.

Dems are coming for our freedoms.

Freedom of speech (and thought), Freedom of association, freedom to protect oneself from criminals, freedom to own or posess a firearm, Think of all the restrictions on freedom and individual liberties associated with the COVID PLANDEMIC..., Freedom of movement, they want to take away your transportation, it's easy to see the trajectory that they are pushing. No wood burning, no gas stoves, this can go on and on...

 

[Cannavore]

you will never "win" an argument against hempy.

 

[armedoldhippy]

you will never "win" an argument against hempy.

sure you can! he'll deny the truth until death, but that does not mean that he "wins"...

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

 

[Microbeman]

Well, let's break this down a little (because this is a great example of twisted projection)...

Republicans aren't trying to tell people what they can or can't read. That would be the Democrats. Obama is the one who launched the 'countering fakenews and propaganda act' which was falsely named (of course). Obviously, you are referring to republican efforts to keep inappropriate groomer porn out of public schools (like it has always been). .

Like Canterbury Tales, Grapes of Wrath, and <SMIRK> Harry Potter books - witchcraft; idiotic religious zealots, like Hempy supports and loves - total morons. Better get Alice in Wonderland off the shelves. Those kids may want to do DRUGS. How about that Huck Finn - Our kids will wanna run away - With Negroes - oh my oh my.

On the other side we have the woke crowd wanting to ban Of Mice and Men and To Kill a Mockingbird to save our lamb's ears from hearing racial slurs.

@Hempy McNoodle I thought you supported free speech. I was allowed to read anything since I was 5 - must be why I'm so damn smart.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Like Canterbury Tales, Grapes of Wrath, and <SMIRK> Harry Potter books - witchcraft; idiotic religious zealots, like Hempy supports and loves - total morons. Better get Alice in Wonderland off the shelves. Those kids may want to do DRUGS. How about that Huck Finn - Our kids will wanna run away - With Negroes - oh my oh my.

On the other side we have the woke crowd wanting to ban Of Mice and Men and To Kill a Mockingbird to save our lamb's ears from hearing racial slurs.

@Hempy McNoodle I thought you supported free speech. I was allowed to read anything since I was 5 - must be why I'm so damn smart.

It's the left LGBTQ+++ crowd that wanted to ban Harry Potter.

 

[Cannavore]

if only leftists are gay lesbian bisexual transgender then the ideology you support is probably oppressive lol

 

[Microbeman]

It's the left LGBTQ+++ crowd that wanted to ban Harry Potter.

Wrong.