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Luther Burbank

The sexism shouldn't be tolerated at all. Use the report button.
 

Harry Gypsna

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I don't think what's been posted in that thread is sexism per se, but it does look very much like a list of points taken from a "Men's rights activist" website.
 

Snypette

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No need to report i just would of just liked to put a neg and be done with it. shouldn't of even said anything but i'm a prideful girl :)

in that type of conversation it can be hard to decipher things because so much is being said and only certain things quoted. Also some people are really good at tearing text apart. Twisting words and making words out to be something that they were not. Text on a computer screen can be taken so many ways. Not everything said was sexist but here are the main things:

woman are programmed to reproduce and are socialised to think of themselves first

and: "Women are very dissimulative creatures (liars). Not to hate on them or anything. I guess it's how they survived."

you wouldn't call that sexist?
 

Harry Gypsna

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and: "Women are very dissimulative creatures (liars). Not to hate on them or anything. I guess it's how they survived."

you wouldn't call that sexist?

I must confess, I missed that bit. Anyway, you can still neg it, you just have to use the scales.
 

stihgnobevoli

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I'm sure that's true of some posters - but in the case of stihgonbevoli and paladin420, it's because they make dumb posts and then brush the unhelpfuls off as trolls.
lol you're a dumbass. here's another one for you to add to your list. anyway as i was saying, you're a dumbass. some people do have trolls and it has nothing to do with unhelpful posts it's just trolling. some guy will see one post he doesn't agree with and because of that he will neg rep/down vote every post you made in that thread, even if they had nothing at all to do with whatever he found offensive. if it wasn't against the terms of use i would show you my new and improved rep logger page...or whatever it's called. now that they can't hide behind pressing unhelpful a buncha times you can see who's trolling.

they like to comment on one of the reps. "you're wrong blue is a nicer color" then they neg rep every other post. lol in a nice little row. it's sad really, wasting that much of your life to click the scales, click disapprove, click ok, click ok again, then scroll through to find the next post, (or if they're smart, which i seriously doubt, use filter all) just to repeat those same steps. lol bitch i'm famous! i got $%^$#'s on the internet wasting part of their life to think about me.
 

pappy masonjar

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Snypette, i dont really wanna get into this with you. But that first statement you used as an example of his sexism, "woman are programmed to reproduce and are socialised to think of themselves first".
Those are facts. A woman's brain is programmed to reproduce. Ever heard of a maternal clock?
And society does socialize women to think of themselves before men. Ever hear of "women and children first" or perhaps "ladies first"??

Im not sure why you felt the need to drag that over to this thread. It wasnt on topic in that thread, just as it isnt here.

And its funny for you to bring up sexism at all. I recall you saying something about you not trusting Men at all. execpt snype.
Isnt that generalizing that all mean are liars???
The same thing you're getting all bent out of shape about?

I wonder if you even realize you basically said the exact same thing that your calling sexist.:thinking:
 
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devilgoob

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1) Keeping it anonymous keeps you from taking it personally, and getting butthurt.
2) Either you have 1 or 2 unhelpful from trolls, and you let them get under your skin and want to find out who it is so you can be personally butthurt, or you have many unhelpfuls and your post sucks.
3)You can post bullshit now, and some idiot might think it warrants a post in response. Now we're gonna have arguments in threads, because someone is talking to an unhelpful person, or even a troll. (In both Snypette's and the other dudes regards....they both think they're being sexist. So now she is explaining how he isn't really doing much wrong except saying she is sexist, because she is sexist also. LOL I am kidding! Just don't feed the troll!)
 

Only Ornamental

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I barely use the vote but when I do I vote 'yes' or 'no'...
What sort of 'democracy' are we living in with the new system?
And I'd appreciate a non-anonymous vote button. If I'm for or against something, I stand for it and thats that.
 

SeedsOfFreedom

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This new system makes old threads much harder to learn anything from. Go read the Tobacco Mosaic Virus thread(or similar) and tell me this new system is better. Every dumb thing said in that thread has been helpful to at least 1 or 2 idiots somehow. There is certainly no way for a beginning grower the get anything from that thread now. Even a lot of experienced people will be misled. Some of the best info in that thread was rated no higher than the dumb posts. Now with new threads we will debate and people will hear the truth(hopefully), but with old threads many dozens of pages long there will be a total lack of debate when it was needed.
 

pappy masonjar

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Good point, the old threads are pretty messed up from this. I think Snypette made a great point when she brought that up. At that point I hadnt yet even thought of that effect.
And i understand that with most posts its plain commonn sense whether the post is good or not. But if its a subject someone is unfamilar with, thats not always the case.
 

CannaBunkerMan

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I am surrounded by pansies. Learn to take criticism. Who cares if no votes are anonymous? They were useful, and now they're gone. I hate this kind of bullshit, on the site and off.
 

devilgoob

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Hey, maybe you misunderstood my first point, when I said it was "anonymous."

Me, personally, it could be either, I've dealt both ways.

I meant that for OTHERS, because when it's not anonymous, THEY get butthurt and OUR rep system is taken.

Call me out, I can take the heat. I did when LED's weren't that big.

Because the system gets taken away, not because I personally....nevermind, apply all my points personally to me, instead of my points on why the system was working.....




So....in regards to that. YOU care if it's anonymous, because YOU care about the system being removed, BECAUSE people are getting butthurt over the anonymity or the lack of it.
 

Critter

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Why do people keep saying you can neg rep a post with the scales? That option's been gone for a while now for me??

I bet you hardmode prez has been constantly complaining to mods about this rep shit and they got tired of hearing the whining and had to change both to accommodate him and a few butthurt others. 9 times outa 10 if you post some dumb shit over and over (ugly flowers) you will hear peoples opinions but they try to help first which is slapped away with insults and defensiveness/anger, thus you you get neg'd or unhelpful in future posts.
 

Harry Gypsna

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9 times outa 10 if you post some dumb shit over and over (ugly flowers) you will hear peoples opinions but they try to help first which is slapped away with insults and defensiveness/anger, thus you you get neg'd or unhelpful in future posts.

Aaaand that would be an abuse of the system.
Having it there on peoples posts, is meant to indicate the validity of the information, contained within that particular post. Running around negging everything someone else says because they have previously called you a **** is not what the system is meant for.
 

Avinash.miles

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Why do people keep saying you can neg rep a post with the scales? That option's been gone for a while now for me??
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duno what ur talking about... i click the scales, get 2 options (approve is uprep; disapprove is down.rep) and a place to type a message.... that's the neg rep with scales... which i believe shows up red in "my IC", where as uprep shows up green if given by a full member and grey if given by a member... with... like..... less than 250 posts (?).... i think.
and it does tell you WHO gave it (via "my IC"), where as the "no" vote would not report to you WHO gave it in "my IC".

EDIT:
i just learned if you click the scales on one of YOUR OWN posts, it tells you how much rep that posts has recieved AND how much total rep you have...
how the hell did i NOT know this until now....
 

Critter

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I meant in future posts "of the same dumb shit". BTw harry i just gave you a yes on helpful in the funny pic thread.

Now i can see why you may get neg'd. You turned that into what i didnt mean sorry if i put it in a confusing way.
I just meant "thus in the future instead of trying to help or give opinion on a bad post in the future they will just be neg'd rep'd. I didnt mean in the future follow that person around and neg rep every post they have. Geez
 
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