Revived from a stem

[pieceofmyheart]

I germed this plant and the seed shell would not come off, it was stuck like glue. I had on my bifocals and had my tweezers and a good light trying to dissect it from the shell. In the process, the cotyledons tore right off inside that shell. There was this tiny stem poking out of the dirt, so I barely covered it and hit it with a shot of water and look what happened.


Isn't it cute?





Man those perlite pieces look like boulders...hahahaha

 

[Guest]

i don't ever see mj as cute so i can't say for sure.

but i will say "all hail the hardy weed"

nice1 pomh

what's the strain? i had the same thing happen with some phoenix haze seedlings.

 

[pieceofmyheart]

This is Heads G-33. So I didn't want to give up on it. The other three I germed were just fine, this was the odd duck.

I guess it looks cute to me because it so very tiny, see it against the perlite?

 

[T.doT.Toker]

Wow lol looks like the cannabis gods have blessed you. Id like to see how it turns out !!

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

If both cotyledons tore off, then the tap root must have developed well enough to feed the seedling by itself. You were lucky though.

DON'T play around with tweezers on your seedlings to remove the seed pod. It is a hard tool against a soft body. I've got full eye sight, two steady hands, patience and experience, still I've managed to kill a few seeedlings that way. If you have germed 10-12 seeds, theoretically half of them will become females (or males, if that's what you want), so killing one (by trying to save it) is reducing your chances of getting a keeper with about 20%. There are other ways to deal with the problem.

First of all, even though it often looks like a seedling is in trouble, it will in the vast majority of cases get rid of the seed pod. Don't forget that seedlings can brake through concrete and asphalt out of pure will to live. If you lay sleepless at nights worrying about your seedling, in order to help it (and yourself), gently place a drop of water on the seed pod. The water will soften the shell and help the seedling brake it off.
If you want to avoid the problem to begin with, plant your seed right. At least an inch (2 cm or more) below the surface. If you germed the seed before planting, place the taproot UP in the medium, not down. What makes sense to the grower, that the roots should go down, does not make sense to the plant. Dicot plants of all species (Cannabis included) germinate with the tap root upwards, which then makes a bend downward, pushing the seedling up through the medium in the shape of a hook, with seed pod and cotyledons pointing downwards.





This allows the seedling to pull the seed pod off the cotydelons before it brakes the surface. It doesn't always work, but that's how nature designed it. If you place the tap root down, the seedling will have to reposition itself in the medium, and will spend precious energy on doing so, making it weaker.

 

[pieceofmyheart]

Oh dear....thanks Rosey Cheeks, hahahaha

I find your post a bit condescending and almost offensive. I wasn't really asking for advice. I thought it was cool that it survived.

DON'T play around with tweezers on your seedlings to remove the seed pod. It is a hard tool against a soft body. I've got full eye sight, two steady hands, patience and experience, still I've managed to kill a few seeedlings that way.

If you lay sleepless at nights worrying about your seedling, in order to help it (and yourself), gently place a drop of water on the seed pod.

If you want to avoid the problem to begin with, plant your seed right.

"You have full eyesight,2 steady hands, patience and experience"......hahaha good for you dear. what are you trying to say about me now?


I have never laid awake at night and worried over my plants, I am much too common sensical for that.


I do plant my seeds right hun, been doing it for a while with good results. Sometimes you encounter different things with seedlings and plants in general and I knew it was past time for this shell to be off.


But, thanks for the germing seeds 101, I guess.

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

I think you took it the wrong way POMH. I wasn't adressing you particularly - even though it is your thread - but growers in general. As you see from what I said, I've done the same thing as you, so in that case I'm condescending against myself. Softening up the seed pod with water is IMO a safer and better way than twisting off the seed pod mechanically. It needs to be said.
I don't know how you plant your seeds, you don't say, so there's no point in taking that personally either.
Your thread simply gave me an opportunity to adress two issues, how to plant and help your seedling with optimal sucess, that's all.
I'm sending you some kind thoughts, I hope your feelings are hurt no more.

 

[Tropical Treats]

Sometimes its just take some loving for a plant to bounce back. You certainly have that gentle touch. Most of the time when I have my seed helmet stuck on the plant, the plant rarely makes it for me. Maybe I am alittle too rough when I remove it. But ya I guess you can say it looks cute. Hopefully she turns out to be a winner.

 

[pieceofmyheart]

I think you took it the wrong way POMH. I wasn't adressing you particularly - even though it is your thread - but growers in general. As you see from what I said, I've done the same thing as you, so in that case I'm condescending against myself. Softening up the seed pod with water is IMO a safer and better way than twisting off the seed pod mechanically. It needs to be said.
I don't know how you plant your seeds, you don't say, so there's no point in taking that personally either.
Your thread simply gave me an opportunity to adress two issues, how to plant and help your seedling with optimal sucess, that's all.
I'm sending you some kind thoughts, I hope your feelings are hurt no more.

I didn't twist it off, it was already split and I was gently peeling (with my old eyes and shakey hands) the shell from the sides. It was time, the 3 other seedlings were way ahead.


I plant tap root down and slightly cover the seed head with my promix/perlite mix.



My feelings were not hurt but I think if you reread your post and cannot see why I was offended by the condescending remarks, well then...whatever.

 

[Babbabud]

Thanks Rosy

 

[glock23]

I once germed some NL from Aloha and when it germed, there were no cotyledon leaves! They just spit out their first true leaves from the stem! I've never seen anything like that since. At the time, I thought it was a genetic thing or a result of cooler weather. Unfortunately, I had to scrap that grow because some chicks got assaulted in the area, and the area was just swarming with detectives in sweat suits n stuff. I might have to give their NL another whirl (that was almost 10 years ago!).

I've found on some seeds, even with the drop of water, the shell just won't come off, let alone the membrane underneath. Sometimes you just have to get in there and pull it off by hand.

 

[mrwags]

Oh dear....thanks Rosey Cheeks, hahahaha

I find your post a bit condescending and almost offensive. I wasn't really asking for advice. I thought it was cool that it survived.

I do plant my seeds right hun, been doing it for a while with good results. Sometimes you encounter different things with seedlings and plants in general and I knew it was past time for this shell to be off.

I have never laid awake at night and worried over my plants, I am much too common sensical for that.

"You have full eyesight,2 steady hands, patience and experience"......hahaha good for you dear. what are you trying to say about me now?


But, thanks for the germing seeds 101, I guess.

Sweety,next time keep your baby's misted to keep them wet. I to use tweezers and have a special set (no girly uses here) that I use just for this. So if ya see this again and from seeds you will, get it wet before you go a snippin damn I could be real onry here but I won't you will also find that by taking 2 toothpicks you will be able to get the shell to spread so that you can grab it with the tweezers but as stated YOU GOTTA GET IT WET FIRST damn kids!







Mr.Wags

 

[pieceofmyheart]

Thanks Wagsy dear, I do mist them and my seedling area I keep fairly humid, and I did try softening it with water. This shell was simply stuck and I felt that I was going to lose it if I didnt do something so I took my chances and stepped in.

 

[mrwags]

Thanks Wagsy dear, I do mist them and my seedling area I keep fairly humid, and I did try softening it with water. This shell was simply stuck and I felt that I was going to lose it if I didnt do something so I took my chances and stepped in.

Goin for broke damn I knew I liked you for a reason. Well lets just say a friend of a friend of a friend whos sisters cousins uncle is in the NL and is sending me some pictures lol and let's just say you can do what ya want cause we got more good looking out on your girls must be that mom thing.



xxoo's
Mr.Wags

 

[stretchpuppy]

Pretty neat POMH. Glad that gem recovered!

It seems every batch of seeds lately has one straggler that doesn't want to wake up and get out from the sheets... can we blame them?

I've found myself more than once bent over the veg cab with tweezers and a toothpick...

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

I think if you reread your post and cannot see why I was offended by the condescending remarks, well then...whatever.

As I said, I wasn't talking about you... but whatever. You're free to plant in any way you want, but this is how a dicot plant germinates (the pic shows a bean seedling, but it's a close cousin):

 

[pieceofmyheart]

I have heard of that method and I am sure it works as does other methods. Marc Emory swore by that method so I am not saying it won't work.
I germ them in paper towels and then plant them tap root down as many other people do.

Tweeche's Zone man

 

[Babbabud]

A MJ seed grown in the dirt in nature will do exactly as the chart shows. Good useful info Rosy thanks again!!

 

[glock23]

It's really not rocket science though. I put my seeds in wet potting mix and wait. heh. Most of the time (depending on the seeds) I get 100%. The older, colder, dryer or swampier, the lower the germ rate. I've had to start using H2O2 because of these damn Sensi Hindu Kushes. They keep molding up on me