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Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread

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motaco

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THANX MO.....hahahaha glad ya saved my pic of the back yard,and i use to do 120LBS
dry every year....year round......need i show some pics my good old friend hahahahaha!
Next post a commin up for the memories....and im doing good now MO ok..
Lou

Yeah I got a few of your pics saved.
Always welcome around here Lou. It is good to see you and I am glad you are doing well.

seem 90% of the folks here now dont know me??????
weird...worldwide celebraty status gone to shit because of a few years in prison.....

Lol. Don't think the world forgot about ya. I actually recognized you were back on the boards from that pic from the 70s you posted up in a different thread. I saw it and I said "That is lou! He is back out!" I remembered you quite a few times when I was about to light up, and hoping you were doing your time without any trouble from people inside. Hoping maybe even you managed to get a few puffs of good grass behind bars. Prison is no place for peaceful stoners. Glad you are back out brother.


Oh,those thais were from that fat uk sticks with the red
yarn around it....back in 07' i got them from EL man,he hangs
here ounce in a while but not much anymore?

I have heard it from reliable people that those fat red "thai sticks" sold in the uk are actually all from cambodia. They are all very distinctly tied with different colored yarn for some reason. I have no idea what the genetics are, but I have been told they come from cambodia nowadays. Who knows. Just worth mentioning.


I'm another Tucson area dweller like my Bud Motaco.
Actually I grew up in New Orleans but I haven't lived there in a while now. I have been bouncing around small southern towns the past few years and I am living in MS for a little bit.

Soon enough though (next 2-3 years) I will be done with the personal family matters around here that has been preventing me from growing almost a decade now. When I start growing again though I'm not going to do it in these draconian southern states. The world has gone and changed. These things happening in WA, CO, CA, OR, etc.

I'm gonna pack my stuff and head to the west coast. Probably Oregon if it goes legal by then. Get a part time job in the electronics field and a part time job in the marijuna fields. I've always wanted to help new growers learn to grow their own weed. More weed means lower prices, and it takes the $$$ away from the gun toting thugs who have given the marijuana growing community a black eye. I plan to head out there and help people set up legal grows and learn to grow properly.

The world of weed is changing. No sense sittin in the south and watching it happen somewhere else on the news. It is hard to believe what has happened in the MJ community between '03 and '13. I'm going to go take part in it once I am freed up around here.
 

Terroir

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NO one ever forgets Lou Grew.

Your an inspiration to everybody with a back yard and a 6 foot fence.

Hope to see you rockin hard again mate.
 

madalasatori

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I have heard it from reliable people that those fat red "thai sticks" sold in the uk are actually all from cambodia. They are all very distinctly tied with different colored yarn for some reason. I have no idea what the genetics are, but I have been told they come from cambodia nowadays. Who knows. Just worth mentioning.

Mate, they're just as likely to be from africa or even iraq where there is a lot of shady brits operating right now. Anyone can but some twine round a few buds...
 

motaco

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Mate, they're just as likely to be from africa or even iraq where there is a lot of shady brits operating right now. Anyone can but some twine round a few buds...

You are right the majority of cheap weed in the UK is African. But you can simply look at the plant Lou grew from the seeds and see that they are of south east asian origin. And are quite obviously not Iraqi genes.

Do you have any info about large scale smuggling runs of weed out of Iraq? I've never heard of that in my life and I have known quite a few people who have served there. There is sense in smuggling hashish or heroin out of there because they are such small packages and worth so much. But how is anyone supposed to make money smuggling weed only worth a few hundred dollars an ounce out of there? Do you know how much security and international scrutiny there is in Iraq?

The reason I think they are Cambodian is from talking to growers living in Cambodia, and speaking with them about the large scale grows taking place with the help of corrupt politicians. I have read articles about it, talked to growers in the area, and seen pictures of busted smugglers with massive shipments of weed packaged exactly like that, etc.

That is why I said I heard it from reliable sources. It wasn't just a wild guess. I have reason to think they are probably right.

I don't think there are British guys in Iraq rolling up tens of thousands of sticks out of tons of weed to fool people in the UK into thinking it is asian weed. I think there is a better chance it actually is just weed from asia packaged the traditional way they have sold weed in that part of the world.

Its kinda like saying malawi cobs could be from anywhere. Maybe. But if you bought a roll of seeded outdoor sativa weed that is wrapped up in corn husks it was probably from Malawi.

The weed appears to be of SE asian origin. And Cambodia is the country in that region that produces the most commercial export in that area these days from what I understand. It very well might not be Cambodian weed but I see no reason to think it is African and definitely not Iraqi weed.
 

OLDproLg

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Very LOVED an agreed my good old buddy,yeeeehaaaaaaaaa!!!!

Their he is,1 of icmag best men friends haha,if your a newbie
an dont know how ive entertained folks here and else where...
YOU MISSED OUT!

Kiddin..actually im quite floored at the good growers and STRAINS that have been
produced from folks here the past 5 or 7 yrs....jeeeeeeeze loueeeeeeeze!!!!!

STILL,i feel like the pigs CUT OFF my legs at the knees with all my precious work lost,
think about 20 som'm years crosses/and collections from ALL OVER THE WORLD..............
i had probly thousands of different seed packs from friends all from the internet!!!
GONE..took me 6 or 7 years to collect a HALF FULL 40 gallon BLACK TRASHBAG of SEED.
anyways you motaco know my style!!!

VERY GLAD to see ya posting an talking with me,its been a hard road......
Hope things turn out GREAT SOON for ya ok!!
LOU..DAMN..GREW!
 

OLDproLg

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Here are those THAI plants earlier on,before the jungle..

Here are those THAI plants earlier on,before the jungle..

THey were asian for shure!

THey also had some very HUGE fans early on.....last pic shows herm trait.
 

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OLDproLg

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Hey MO hehehe...

i did get to (enjoy a few 7 or 8 great buzz on's) in the pen,
at the camp it was great actually for prison fed style.......
Even got the super fake weed/incense shit that i got WACKED ON waaaaaa!!!...i mean so fucked up me an a friend couldnt even get out of a park bench for an hour or so,NUTZZZZZ!!!!
Many many times...you know me and my BALLS i dont let anyone tell ME
how to live huhu....had a good time for the most part,NO BARS at the camp,
we could walk outside at a naval airbase frikin field ALL NIGHT untill 10pm and
after 10:30 count at night we would go gather outside on the back porch,
were they had 3 TV's an tables an we smoked out played cards an shit!!!!!
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaa mutha FUCKA'S,put it this way haha i partied
DAMB GOOD for being in a FED PEN huh!!.....got drunk twice,couldnt even play pool
i was so slammed haha what a night...i ALSO am a MUSICIAN you know probly.....
SO i freaking JAMMED out 5 concerts playin,Drums/Guitar an BASS for GAWD SAKES!!!...cool musicians there luckily!!!!


WE had a frikin COOL old style big movie theatre there on the base hahaha RAD BRO!!!.....pop corn and ALL!!!

FUCKING FOOD at the camp was OFF THE HOOK,i could NOT believe it when(after 5 other Pens)in transport and
later when i arrived at the camp,in the cafateria,THEY HAD MUSIC LOAD JAMMIN,it was
set up just like any chinese buffet,with food you could choose from that WAS GOOD TOO!
THEY frikin STUFFED US every thanks giving an christmas my man so after all,not to bad...i failed drug school an had to stay a bit longer 3 months.....fuck drug school,im a pot smoka from 1977'

GET THIS SHIT,people use to smuggle shit over and under there fence at night!!!
YOu could frikin sneak out after count late when folks are sleeping an jump the fence....
THings like cigs,booze,weight lifting suppliments,cell phones,drugs hahahahaha!!!!!!...they even FUCKED bitches...
SOME authority huh.....we RAN CIRCLES AROUND THEM BUMBS,but gaurds were involved.
YOu know how it goes haha,hows that for a good REAL story,all for the love of WEED....as they continue their war.
lou
 

motaco

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Well that is good news. About as good as you can hope for in prison. Glad you made out okay.

I had a friend in AZ who got arrested moving weight and did a couple years there. He is who told me about that incense stuff. I hadn't ever heard of it before. Back then it was perfectly legal and the guards didn't know it was a drug, so they never confiscated it. He said they got baked on that shit every day, and a few weeks after he left the institution they banned it. Guess he left at the right time!

And yes that crap is crazy strong. I took a huge bong rip off of it and thought I was retarded. Literally I took a bong rip and for the next ten minutes or so I was debating with myself if it had made me autistic. I thought I wasn't going to come out of it and that I'd be retarded for the rest of my life. Pretty funny in retrospect but at that moment it was a pretty unpleasant trip. lol.
 

MildeStoner

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The past is gone , the future in to come . Be in the moment . Many of those seeds would have gone to waste anyway . And that has its own kind of melancholy ...
You, sir, are philosopher of note! You should start an obscure religion or something, sounds like eastern zen vibes haha

Good to see Lou still out there. Any new grow plans or treading lightly for the moment?
 

OLDproLg

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Sativas an crosses from LOU GREW!

Sativas an crosses from LOU GREW!

THIS IS FOR YOU MO,an my good old friends here!!

Pigz can fuck OFF,ive done my time and payed dues un-needed.

For a plant that IS MEDICINE,even the feds them selfs have been growing and rolling
joints in their big MED facility since the 60's giving patients pot for Gloucoma...........
THEN they started giving CANCER patients pot to help them EAT FOOD...........

BUT TEY STILL SAY ITS NOT A MED,FUCK THE FEDS they are the worst biggets alive.
FREE THIS WEED SO PEOPLE LIKE ME CAN GROW FOR PATIENTS THAT BENIFIT FROM IT!!!
 

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Morcheeba*

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^^^^i guess by the looks of it you need a closet to store all those seeds.

love the O/D sog.


EDIT: and Lou, id love to quit growing once the laws change and id search ya out to be a patient. dont get me wrong, i love everything about this plant but being a high level quad makes things a bit more difficult when moving them around.

peace
 

OLDproLg

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NOW FOR YOUR SATIVA PLANT ENJOYMENT,classic shots!!!

NOW FOR YOUR SATIVA PLANT ENJOYMENT,classic shots!!!

Hello again good friends!

THese pics im about to show were done,ON VIDEO way back in the 80',90's!
1987 to 94'.....great oldshool sats,THais,MExicans,Columbo's an crosses..........

AS you will see my growing style has changed into a professional level since then...
Use to grow HUGE sativas under the tres in my wooded part of my yard,sometimes in open.

Used 5 gallon pots for the most of them but also used small pizza sauce cans,about 2 gallon?
My yard has also changed very very much,since then i cut down 80% of the trees down.....
i have an acre,its a triangle with fencing round the whole property line,plus i made a grow
garden resently as you'
ve seen in the pics with that 6 foot wooden fence,
right in the middle of the acre.....that was way after my old sativa grows,so the yard may
look different back then....my red shed had a gray roof and is now a red roof matching.....

SO,here we go......into the JUNGLE of SATIVAS....the pic quality is bad,because im taking
shots from a big screen tv while the vidoe is playin.....so some shots are a bit blurred???
sorry that took hours and still not the best,but you WILL SEE SOME VERY FINE SATIVAS!!!

THe THai i had was some of the best weed around,the best buzz ever,it felt like a magic
carpet ride in a warm blanket riding for hours high an delited in creative activities!!!!!!!!!!
THIS SATIVA THREAD IS GONNA GET SOME REAL HISTORY RIGHT NOW.........enjoy friends
 

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OLDproLg

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PULL UP A CHAIR IVE GOT TUNES OF SATIVAS!!!!!!!!!!!!

PULL UP A CHAIR IVE GOT TUNES OF SATIVAS!!!!!!!!!!!!

huhuh,thought i only grew 3 to 4 footers......WRONG.

Been there and DONE THAT,and their isnt much i havent done in 35yrs...
i...............LOVE..................SATIVAS..................PERIOD.
 

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OLDproLg

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PUNCH THE PICS FOR A CLOSE UP,it may help a bit??

PUNCH THE PICS FOR A CLOSE UP,it may help a bit??

Again sorry for quality of pics?

But you CAN SEE how may old sats looked like christmas trees!!!
 

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Looks like my spring seed crop got ripped off. Fuckin bastards hope they are smart enough to wash the pesticide off since i was growing for seed and not smoke i used some bad shit on it lol
 

2 Legal Co

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Looks like my spring seed crop got ripped off. Fuckin bastards hope they are smart enough to wash the pesticide off since i was growing for seed and not smoke i used some bad shit on it lol

Just make sure you plant it back the same place and find even nastier shit to spray it with!!! :laughing:
 

motaco

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Lost my dad a few yrs ago,and then spent time in prison morning him bad.

Yeah I thought about that while you were in jail. I very recently lost my dad too (rip) and I can't imagine having to deal with such grief while locked up. My heart goes out to you lou. You are a strong guy.

Just be REALLY careful now in the future. You still have your mom right? It is so fucked up people can't even go to their own parents funerals because they got caught growing a few plants. The pricks won't even let you say your final good bye. It would be fucked if you got popped again and lost your mom while in prison. It would be fucked for her too. Not having you there for her.

If you have ten assault rifles with a 150 rd drum magazines, thousands of bullets, gallons of liquor, and dozens of bottles of hardcore pills in your home? No problem, perfectly legal.

Got a dozen plants growing in your back yard? You are going to jail. This is a fucked up country.

they GOT VERY LUCKY to have had a RAT BITCH do their work....
BUT....as KARMA has it.....she,the fucked up sicko freak ended up killing herself later on!

Well it is good that bitch is dead. Better yet she killed herself and nobody had to go to jail for it.

That wouldn't be enough for me though. If I were you I would go buy a big order at McDonalds, and get a few fiber bran muffins and some coffee at Star Bucks. Then go drive wherever that bitch is buried and take a big stinking shit on her grave. lol

hope ya enjoyed my old sats MO!!!

Yeah I enjoyed seeing all those old photos. I hadn't seen them before. Thanks for posting. Seeing all those old sativas from the 80s and 90s is a trip. Back when weed was taken from bagseed and bred by the grower. Old school style. Almost nobody does it like that anymore.
 

Kangativa

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Hey KANGA looking great!

Oh,those thais were from that fat uk sticks with the red
yarn around it....back in 07' i got them from EL man,he hangs
here ounce in a while but not much anymore?..the vibe has changed at ic..
but people like you an me keep the entertainment going good haha!!
i use to have celebrety status here my man,been in 5 magz with 2,3,4 full page spreads!
Let me see if my handle is still sencored(*******) YUP,********* haha SWEET!!!
BLG also if you seen any of the mags i was in maybe?
Let me show yaz what magzzz i did...shit i think my old handle is sencored still?

aha...Yeah definetly different Thais, these are from a private stock that has been in 2 families for generations and grown in the fertile area of Phitsanulok.
Never released as commercial stock, but kept as kg for people who were lucky enough to know the source.
This is the sort of stuff I used to try and get when I travelled up there during the 70's.
All the good thai sticks we used to see were wraped in hemp string taken off the stalk at harvest.....I always thought that was the killer until you came across the private stuff.
When I saw this plant growing I knew that it was something special, something I hadnt seen since the 70's up there in Thailand....you dont think I was a happy bloke.
Wait till you see what happens when I cross this to my Sativa's, going to be like Jack and the Bean stalk:laughing:
 

Illuminate

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I remember the old lg threads, needed a wide angle lens otherwise the pics were all colas..thanks for sharing the history, maybe that elusive banana weed that peeps miss was yours.
 
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