awesome leaf structure. total sativa looking.
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Haze 19 x Skunk @ 54 days flower.
A little info - My first run with her so she's a little rough around the edges.. showing some signs of a bit too much nitrogen. Throughout her lifespan, she's thrown a couple curveballs, but overall, pretty easy to grow. This is the seed plant (made a cutting the mother), and she was cut down to four main branches before flower, expecting a tall stretch, but nothing doing... stretched about 3-4x, so she's a smaller plant. The aromas are light but complex, with the main smells being an undetermined tropical fruit and pine needle smell, with soap, dryer sheets, and cold steel at times. Anyways, thinking she's gonna go about 90+/- days, maybe even before. Looking forward to smoking her.
A little info - My first run with her so she's a little rough around the edges.. showing some signs of a bit too much nitrogen. Throughout her lifespan, she's thrown a couple curveballs, but overall, pretty easy to grow. This is the seed plant (made a cutting the mother), and she was cut down to four main branches before flower, expecting a tall stretch, but nothing doing... stretched about 3-4x, so she's a smaller plant. The aromas are light but complex, with the main smells being an undetermined tropical fruit and pine needle smell, with soap, dryer sheets, and cold steel at times. Anyways, thinking she's gonna go about 90+/- days, maybe even before. Looking forward to smoking her.
I was going to say the same thing, then I read your post and it did it for me. The one really mature looking leaf is classic sativa looking.
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second picture, far right leaf. What is this strain? nepalese?
If you're asking me? Yes, both of my pictures are of the same plant, a Nepali Rukum sativa hybrid.
R
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Great plants everyone. Dreamsoftesla thats a pretty incredible leaf there....
Oldtimer's Haze fertilizing techniques! (Chick foraging and legume nitrogen fixing)
Oldtimer's Haze fertilizing techniques! (Chick foraging and legume nitrogen fixing)
Beautiful leaf on that Oldtimers! It looks a little bit like a fat leaf type of Thai I've grown before. But then again, I see Thai in my dreams because I want a good one again so bad.
Even more, this image is the first one of Haze where I can see resemblance to a Punto Rojo image that I saved from a Cannabiogen thread:
I have heard speculation that Punto Rojo might be the Columbian ingredient in the Haze line.
This is all wild speculation and gossip being spread by me. I know nothing. However, I am just fascinated by how phenotypes in one part of the world can look so much like a phenotype in another location far, far, away.
In the end it does not matter. All that matters is unique and enjoyable experiences. But I just can't help myself as it is part of the fun for me.
Peace
R
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Beautiful leaf on that Oldtimers! It looks a little bit like a fat leaf type of Thai I've grown before. But then again, I see Thai in my dreams because I want a good one again so bad.
Even more, this image is the first one of Haze where I can see resemblance to a Punto Rojo image that I saved from a Cannabiogen thread:
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I have heard speculation that Punto Rojo might be the Columbian ingredient in the Haze line.
This is all wild speculation and gossip being spread by me. I know nothing. However, I am just fascinated by how phenotypes in one part of the world can look so much like a phenotype in another location far, far, away.
In the end it does not matter. All that matters is unique and enjoyable experiences. But I just can't help myself as it is part of the fun for me.
Peace
Im really looking for that hazy gem (hopefully a colorful hazy gem). This is actually five plants, not two. The picture with the chicks is two plants, one could be a fatty thai because its got thick leaves relative to the rest (but not to my OG Kush!). The larger pot with the runner beans growing in it is three individual Haze plants being braided together. Im hoping for four females and one killer male, but hoping is hoping...
Double Congo F2
Awesome, that looks not too hard to camouflage with other plants.
Sumatran Cannabis - alive and well
Sumatran Cannabis - alive and well
I've just returned from two weeks in Indonesia where I met the head of the Indonesian Cannabis legalisation movement - Dhira19 - the editor of the Lingkar Ganja Nusantara. We shared some nice, ultra clear Sumatran weed from Aceh province (with a party of fresh young people), and I managed to return home with a handful of seeds from this exchange. Ganja culture is alive and well in Indonesia with many people smoking regularly. Most of the domestic weed comes from Sumatra via Jakarta, but every island has it's own cultivars and cultivators. The unexpected freedom I found in Indonesia relates to the low police presence in the country, which means that if people are discreet, they can smoke with impunity. The system in Indonesia is also such that many crimes go unreported, as long as a donation to the local police football club is made.
I was very surprised by what I found in Indonesia....my perception was that strict religious practices would ensure that cannabis culture was extremely rare and underground, however I found a burgeoning middle class with liberal attitudes, and now that I have access to Indonesian cannabis seeds, I will endeavour to collect rare quality ones that I will share freely with the community here, along the lines of what billyblog has done with the Malawi Gold. I would also love to share some of the crosses I've made using Kangativa and Nevil's work, but alas I have promised not to....
it is somewhat of a cloudy, euphoric, head banging high and not really the clear uplifting Nirvana inducing high that purists are looking for. I actually have a Mango x MMWW that i think is better....
I am currently working on three pollen chucks (I won't say I'm breeding lol) using a 21Hz x MM male. This line was made by Nevil using two MM males from Kangativa combined to Nevil's best performing Haze. I'm crossing the 21Hz x MM male to a pure MM for a 75% MM/Hz; also to Nimbin Purple sativa for a little bit faster flowering narrow leaf variety (that will hopefully pick up some of the euphoric mood enhancing qualities of the NP). Unfortunately the Nimbin Purple sat is an hermaphrodite line that always produces a few selfed seeds for next years crop, something I don't mind...
And perhaps the most interesting cross will be made using Kangativa's GN Thai Stick cut shown below with the 21Hz x MM male already doing his thing in front...
This bloody Thai stick is about a week into flowering while most plants have already been harvested. So it will probably finish at the end of August (that's the equivalent of finishing at the end of February for you Northen hemisphere types). This is the last of the Thai stick cut as I won't keep it alive over the coming winter due to the desire to work on other strains. It is an amazing plant that can handle anything from drought to flood and has a super powerful high if it can make it to the end of the season. Can't wait to have those Thai stick x 21Hz/Madness seeds in my hand.
Thanks Elmer, no I think you were right, if you look at Kanga's work you can see the benefit of heaps of mulch. My plots were smaller and more obscure this year so no thieves, and everything has come off nicely, just waiting on some MM crosses, Thais, and a batch of late planted 21 Madness that look beautiful...
if U see Wally tell him I still have some of his superb Z99 Hash that I occasionally bring out to blow away the competition....
Sumatran Cannabis - alive and well
I've just returned from two weeks in Indonesia where I met the head of the Indonesian Cannabis legalisation movement - Dhira19 - the editor of the Lingkar Ganja Nusantara. We shared some nice, ultra clear Sumatran weed from Aceh province (with a party of fresh young people), and I managed to return home with a handful of seeds from this exchange. Ganja culture is alive and well in Indonesia with many people smoking regularly. Most of the domestic weed comes from Sumatra via Jakarta, but every island has it's own cultivars and cultivators. The unexpected freedom I found in Indonesia relates to the low police presence in the country, which means that if people are discreet, they can smoke with impunity. The system in Indonesia is also such that many crimes go unreported, as long as a donation to the local police football club is made.
I was very surprised by what I found in Indonesia....my perception was that strict religious practices would ensure that cannabis culture was extremely rare and underground, however I found a burgeoning middle class with liberal attitudes, and now that I have access to Indonesian cannabis seeds, I will endeavour to collect rare quality ones that I will share freely with the community here, along the lines of what billyblog has done with the Malawi Gold. I would also love to share some of the crosses I've made using Kangativa and Nevil's work, but alas I have promised not to....
I think Nevil has found a few hybrids already using Haze, Madness and 78'Thai stick that he would put in that category, and for all the strength and consistency of the Mangox?Oaxacan line I have...
it is somewhat of a cloudy, euphoric, head banging high and not really the clear uplifting Nirvana inducing high that purists are looking for. I actually have a Mango x MMWW that i think is better....
I am currently working on three pollen chucks (I won't say I'm breeding lol) using a 21Hz x MM male. This line was made by Nevil using two MM males from Kangativa combined to Nevil's best performing Haze. I'm crossing the 21Hz x MM male to a pure MM for a 75% MM/Hz; also to Nimbin Purple sativa for a little bit faster flowering narrow leaf variety (that will hopefully pick up some of the euphoric mood enhancing qualities of the NP). Unfortunately the Nimbin Purple sat is an hermaphrodite line that always produces a few selfed seeds for next years crop, something I don't mind...
And perhaps the most interesting cross will be made using Kangativa's GN Thai Stick cut shown below with the 21Hz x MM male already doing his thing in front...
This bloody Thai stick is about a week into flowering while most plants have already been harvested. So it will probably finish at the end of August (that's the equivalent of finishing at the end of February for you Northen hemisphere types). This is the last of the Thai stick cut as I won't keep it alive over the coming winter due to the desire to work on other strains. It is an amazing plant that can handle anything from drought to flood and has a super powerful high if it can make it to the end of the season. Can't wait to have those Thai stick x 21Hz/Madness seeds in my hand.
Thanks Elmer, no I think you were right, if you look at Kanga's work you can see the benefit of heaps of mulch. My plots were smaller and more obscure this year so no thieves, and everything has come off nicely, just waiting on some MM crosses, Thais, and a batch of late planted 21 Madness that look beautiful...
if U see Wally tell him I still have some of his superb Z99 Hash that I occasionally bring out to blow away the competition....
Very good to hear that, and nice find if I may say so!
We all hear the horror stories about Indonesia, the death penalties, the Muslim nutjobs and what have you, it's very nice to see that there is another side, and that it is vibrant alive and well. Thanks for that!
(Thinks...) Hm, I have some neighbours from Aceh - maybe I should have a word with them...
Incidentally, did you see any weed growing, or is it too early still? Same growth habit as the general SE Asian I should imagine.
I love the look of that yellow green glow in the dark sativa. Is this the NH 21 x Mullum Madness?
Will the GN Thai (78?) x (MM x NH 21) be a release by Neville this August or September?
Thanks,
ThaiBliss
PoweRed Thais
Unknown Sativas (coming from an open pollination experiment involving Original Haze, Tom Hill's Haze, Neville's Haze, Original Haze x Skunk, Zamal x Thai, Malawi Gold, Swazi Rooibart and Black Forrest) They are four months old and ideally i would like to finish them out by forcing them on a 11/13 schedule
Unknown Sativas (coming from an open pollination experiment involving Original Haze, Tom Hill's Haze, Neville's Haze, Original Haze x Skunk, Zamal x Thai, Malawi Gold, Swazi Rooibart and Black Forrest) They are four months old and ideally i would like to finish them out by forcing them on a 11/13 schedule
Thanks so much for sharing, both the information and the genetics. I hope to one day be introduced.
Nice ones, Van Vulpen.
4 months flowering? I'd go 10/14 and eventually 9/15 if they don't get it on.
Nice crosses, they look like some fun.
Bushweesd, you Kanga and Nimbin must be in sativa heaven by now.
4 months flowering? I'd go 10/14 and eventually 9/15 if they don't get it on.
Nice crosses, they look like some fun.
Bushweesd, you Kanga and Nimbin must be in sativa heaven by now.
Hi Gert, no I didn't get to see any, but I imagine you're right about some resemblance to other SE Asian cultivars. Although, from what I've seen and read, there's no one specific SE Asian growth habit, but many different types. The weed I saw and smoked looked very loose leaf, I think it was bottom of the barrel, because it contained seeds, but I suspect it wasn't finished properly, and I also suspect the grower allowed the males pollenate the females. Furthermore they told me it was cured by being buried in the ground somewhat wet...very old school stuff. Nevetheless it tasted very smooth and sweet, much like some of the Thais.
Here's a few quotes I've collected from old kiwi grower scrubdog who has some experience with Sumatran strains:
"Indonesian is the most consistently potent sativa I have ever grown or smoked. Very racey, very paranoia inducing and some of the harshest tasting weed I've ever experienced. Very easy to grow, very tough, 100% mould resistant and every crop always had early flowering phenotypes that actually began flowering BEFORE my earliest skunk or indica. Apart from the taste I couldn't fault Indonesian and boy do I miss it now. I used to cross a really early Indonesian with my other sativas (especially Thai) to bring back the flowering and I thought nothing of it. Now I realise that I must have had something special. Indonesian was the first pure sativa line that I ever worked with extensively and so I didn't know any better. I thought all sativas were like Indonesian."
"Sumatran Tripping weed" as it was called in the 80's is a different animal altogether. Possibly the most potent weed I've ever smoked (equal with Thai Stick). A bit like smoking methamphetamine."
"There is a pure Indonesian landrace that is meant to be a direct descendant of a killer Thai Stick strain. I have grown heaps of it at one time and it is seriously dangerous stuff. Like Haze on steroids."
"It was hand gathered in Indonesia and never grown in Switzerland (as far as I know). The description said "semi wild landrace seed. The natives grow this by burning down a patch of jungle then scattering the seeds on the ashes. Seed viability probably very low"
"In fact I had almost 100% germination. Seeds are tiny and black. I grew this line as a pure line for about ten years until the police took all my seeds and I lost it. At the time I had no idea that one day this seed would become rare. I had hundreds of thousands of seeds."
Here's another quote from ahortator:
Sounds promising....
Yes ThaiBliss, that is 21/MM (I have half a dozen on the go) this is the most common phenotype - tall upright yellow green plants with narrow leaves and wide internode spacing. There is another pheno with wide leaves that is nevertheless long flowering, which category my male falls into.
I should say here and now that the MM males used in this cross appear to contain Oaxacan genes....
Re; the GN Thai stick, no the GN Thai is not the 78'Thai Nevil is working with, the GN Thai was sourced by Gypsy in the last 5 years in Nong Khai province in Thailand. Nevil's 78'Thai is a lowland thai sourced from another old Aussie grower who saved seeds from 1978 sticks...
Here's Kangativa's Oaxacan - such a sweet uplifting smoke...
Mullumbimby Madness...
Phitsanulok (Hmong) Thai...
That is just all so awesome :-D
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