Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread

[bushweed]

Just observing the similarities between Tom Hill's Haze posted here by Raco:

and Nevil's Haze posted by L33t

not too dissimilar...

 

[yoss33]

25% difference

 

[bushweed]

Kangativa's Sativas

Kangativa's Sativas

Fet 303

L to R Nev Haze, Haw x Nam, Chocolope upfront

Jamaican Blue .... Critical Haze in the fore

Nev Haze, Haw x Nam

L-R MM, Haw x Nam, Doors

 

[Ronni]

hey bushweed, does 303 suits its discription?

303 is a sweet spicy fruity flavour with a piney-fruity aroma with a very intense high mind-lifting it can bring about heart-racing and even panic for users not used to strong sativas or if overdone, due to its creeping effect can soon have you blown off your feet.

 

[Kangativa]

hey bushweed, does 303 suits its discription?

Hi Ronni,
They are actually my plants, Bushy is a great friend who spends the time to post pics for me and enlarge them, so I am forever indebt to him.
I was just given those seeds from a friend last season, so it is the first time I have grown them and I have never smoked it.
But so far the smell is exactly like the quote you found, I would say in around another 2 months I will be able to give a full report on it......cheers K

 

[Lionroot]

Hi

here some pics to share

16 weeks

Malawi f2

another malawi f2

Good vibes

 

[bigherb]

Bushweed

i Definetly agree about the similarites

Id love too get a smoke report from Raco on that pheno ,L33T gave us one .

Id really like to hear a smoke report on many of those pics Raco post but its hard to get an answer.


1luvbigherb

 

[OsWiZzLe]

I should have added my Iranian Sativas to this thread b4 i axed them....you guys have some amazing paitence and awsome plants

 

[Raco]

but its hard to get an answer.

Too much bs and negativity lately...everywhere...just read this:

post #14
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/5-strain-base/6005-original-haze-2.html

Follow the link to the italian forum

Observe the pics ^

then compare:

bonecarverOG´s post

http://www.cannabiscafe.net/foros/showthread.php/77629-especies-Protegidas?p=807156#post807156

Haze? WTF?

 

[uraverage]

Its not great but it works...
http://translate.google.com/transla...77629-especies-Protegidas?p=807156#post807156


Keep this thread going i want to see more...

 

[bigherb]

Originally Posted by Raco
Too much bs and negativity lately...everywhere...just read this

I definetly agree ,But that MNS thread was Great until KASH came at me ,Then after i responded all seemed cool ,Until hempy got back at it

Not sure what that has to do with you giving a description/smoke report on Gems when you post pics or are asked for detail,IC has been mellow n civil Lately threw my window .


I havnt translated (as i dont speak spanish) all the post soo im not exactly sure your comparison of the links.But i apprecaite you keepin it real with the haze info trying to keep misinformation from being spread

1luvbigherb

 

[ixnay007]

Italian.

I speak it, if you want I can translate it (or pieces of it)..

 

[ixnay007]

Italian.

I speak it, if you want I can translate it (or pieces of it)..

ù

The second link is spanish (not too hard to read, he just says it's something from a destroyer male)..

I wouldn't get too worked up about what overgrow.it uses as their photos, they seem to appropriate images from wherever, and give em names that aren't always accurate.

Hell, I saw an article by that guy in an italian mag that used a SSH photo from a member here with 0 credit to the original..

 

[Raco]

@ bigherb,

deran: another intresting link to the story (the italian article)

bigherb :great info brotha

Great info??
did I say bs??

 

[bigherb]

@ bigherb,

deran: another intresting link to the story (the italian article)

bigherb :great info brotha

Great info??
did I say bs??

Much respect

Im not sure why you cant be more explanatory ,At the other site CC i see quite indepth post by you

I wasnt sure which BS you exactly referred .

I only expressed my interest in all your pics and desire to know more about 90% of them which majority of the time are descriptionless.

If you can further explain please do soo ,That thread with spanish/italian is just to much to translate ATM .

From what i understand MNS forums is quite popular with some NON members/on lookers .

Quoted below from jaoquin post of bonecarver quoted post

By the way the link that you put related to the Italian site La storia della the picture at the bottom of the page is not a haze it is really a Raco Cross

You can check it here: Criadores de cannabis - Página 97

The first link i cant translate dont know if ist not common dialect the second shows the same pic that is NOT in Derans thread and says in short ,The same that Ixnay suggset thanks

this is not haze but the bush I believe that raco use a male to destroyer with Corinth

Soo im not sure what your trying to say

My passion for haze lead to responding in his thread ,His information in the thread was Spot on to what he had told me in short in our pm discussion.

The fact INCENSE was recognized intrigued me becaz it has been reported more than once in TFD OHAZE stock .


1luvbigherb

 

[Tom Hill]

BigHerb,

Every time I turn around I see you incessantly pushing folk for a more detailed smoke report or reply - all hung-up on that one incense/frankies smoke. I have watched folks do their very best, only to have you come in over and over and say how disappointed you are, that you were hoping for a more detailed report, wtf is up with that? You know, some folks, including myself, just don't have it in them. When will you realize that? Soon I hope, because it's long past getting old.


But I don't need to be smoke report master to assure you of this and I don't care what anybody before or after says about it either, there is no frankies/church etc in the old Posi/Sam Haze line, it's just not there man - that stuff is different. -Tom

 

[Burt]

"I should have added my Iranian Sativas to this thread b4 i axed them...."
whats up with the OG killing iraninans you've been working with?

 

[MOneYMiKe]

BigHerb,

Every time I turn around I see you incessantly pushing folk for a more detailed smoke report or reply - all hung-up on that one incense/frankies smoke. I have watched folks do their very best, only to have you come in over and over and say how disappointed you are, that you were hoping for a more detailed report, wtf is up with that? You know, some folks, including myself, just don't have it in them. When will you realize that? Soon I hope, because it's long past getting old.


But I don't need to be smoke report master to assure you of this and I don't care what anybody before or after says about it either, there is no frankies/church etc in the old Posi/Sam Haze line, it's just not there man - that stuff is different. -Tom

BH i think what your looking for is an old nl/haze..or hp/haze from old sensi stock....ive smoked TFD haze all i got was sativa spice/typical haze cat piss/hay aroma....and these same profiles came with plants ive grown from toms haze hybrids..ie grapefruit citrus pissy/hay/hazy smells.....maby try the deepchunkxhaze f2's see if the affy in the mix is what your after...just trying to help allong this journey....nl5haze is what im getting from your descriptions...hey Tom............hope this help's if any at all...

 

[Tom Hill]

I've said all that before brother Money, but it's in one ear and out the other. Add to that TFD/Posi/Sam list Seedsman too, I've grown them all, no Frankies there, nada. I think what is happening here is that occasionally folks dig really deep in trying to put into words some complex flavors/aromas some of the old Sam/Posi line can give, whether from TDF, me, or wherever, and when the word incense pops up, my brother herb gets wood. But it's not the same at all, not even in the same ballpark. I've smoked the uptown, and he won't find anything close in anything commercially available other than what Shanti and Nev are working with. There I have found close to what he's looking for, anywhere else would just be a waste of his time if he's set on that uptown flavor. But he won't listen, he likes pushing rocks uphill and trying to fit square pegs in round holes, don't you BigHerb

 

[bigherb]

BigHerb,

Every time I turn around I see you incessantly pushing folk for a more detailed smoke report or reply - all hung-up on that one incense/frankies smoke. I have watched folks do their very best, only to have you come in over and over and say how disappointed you are, that you were hoping for a more detailed report, wtf is up with that? You know, some folks, including myself, just don't have it in them. When will you realize that? Soon I hope, because it's long past getting old.


But I don't need to be smoke report master to assure you of this and I don't care what anybody before or after says about it either, there is no frankies/church etc in the old Posi/Sam Haze line, it's just not there man - that stuff is different. -Tom

Shockin and very dissapointing ,Im not here for non of this i dont hav the energy ATM.If i have done anything other than this lame excuse to attack me (with LIES) you can let me know in PM caz ill just speak once .



TH

I have always shown you respect i have no idea wat your beef is ?This is not your forum i have not disrespected you

Yes i always apprecaite asomke report and ask soo respectfully i have asked a handful of people formore detail .Soo im not sure of your relation with raco but clearly it was a response to my post to him

ITS clear you are not very observant and if not for a good friend id have no desire to consider your line (LIME citrus metallic) wateva flavors you described to me (IF i recall that was agreat civil convo) .that are far from OHAZE from SANTA CRUZ .IT seems your on Sams team with the Lets NOT acknowledge the incense trait

There are several reports of recent with the incense trait in your line DONT know if you care to acknowledge that ,Quick find

Big city

hi bigherb

I don't feel like I'm qualified to give a detailed smoke report yet. All I can say is that it's pretty fantastic stuff. Still waiting for a good cure before elaborating. Next time, I'll post a couple dry nug shots.

Also, I have found a second purple haze girl. This one has an entirely different structure and has lime green buds with good resin coverage and purple calyx tips and purple leaves. It looks a lot like the one they have on the boo of Toms Haze. It's also the stretchiest of Toms Hazes I've grown so far. Smells are totally different, sharp and spicy incense. the other purple was more fruity incense

hazylady

I will make sure you hear my reports Herb, regarding the lineage,
HGF say their Blue Haze is :-
"A unique cross between the famous Blueberry and the Original Haze".
If you recall? HGF took over Positronics in 1997, they acquired all Posi's genetic library which contained the same O'Haze Tom started his line with some years before

The Blue # 7 has a wonderful aroma, to be honest it has a slightly stronger floral side right now, but the incense is still very obvious, it is a soft, dry powdery scent

Moneymike

top pheno is the first pheno chopped....lemon/lime/citrus/haze pure..mild paranoia...
the bottom is the last pheno chopped....calyx stacker..chocolate/purehaze sandlewoodish aroma....have had mild visual trails...not too much paranoia...more so than the top citrus pheno

You have admitted you have not smoked haze bros haze ,This is a quote from happyhi (Who was there)in response to DG post .IMO your line is similar to Nevils haze stock a hybrid (Burning bush?) of the OHAZE in which Sams Never revealed the lineage to you both

Quoted happyhi
best description of what i'm smoking yet

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Quoteutchgrown
Originally Posted by Dutchgrown
A predominately pissy pine, with a slight hint of spice I'd call akin to sandalwood...although certainly dominated by the pine flavor throughout (being more pronounced).

someone finally nailed it, this is the very best description of the shit that i have seen, describes what i would refer to as the number 4 plant of the original haze.
imho, it smells like cat piss a bit late in flower and after the cure takes on the pine, sandalwood was the word!
it had to be the Nam Rengo Kyo

I Thought a desire for knowlegde was agreat thing ,seems it upsets some folks.Im shocked and hurt to hear this , i might have said some things i shouldnt but everything happens for areason your post ,my post LIFE ,DEATH