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Revival of the REVIVAL of the ULTIMATE SATIVA THREAD a.k.a R.U.S.T II

Dentex

Well-known member
Destroyer x New Caledonia @elanius

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Jahaze

subiendo el humo
Veteran
This is an unknown thai variety that came to me as "thai stick". The plant is from a regular seed pack. This is one of three plants started outside this year at 41.6°N. In late September it became obvious that these were extremely long flowering and were not going to finish until sometime in late December which is way too cold. I took a cutting of one of the plants and was able to root it indoors. The outdoor plants came down the 2nd week of November due to poor weather but were not anywhere near being mature. The plant i selected had a strong lemony cat piss type smell. I have been bending, twisting, and tieing down just to keep her manageable indoors. The outdoor plants was over 15ft high and branched like crazy. Here she is after 7 weeks of 12/12 and she still stretching and just starting to set flower. My guess it will go 16+weeks. I'll start reducing photo period at week 8 to 11.5 then 11, and finally 10.5 until it finishes. She was started in a half gallon container and up potted at week 5 to a 2 gallon of fresh homemade compost and perlite. Nothing else. I hope I can finish her properly indoors after starting life outdoors.

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led05

Chasing The Present
Is it true that real haze is under 1mm leaflets. I just can't quite grail.

Outback Haze #8 x Nigerian Silk haze S
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I’ve Never heard that before, I think measuring at midpoint of each leaflet (vs where it meets petiole) gives a better representation of what you’re dealing with. IME it’s not so much the width of each leaflet but more so shape, pure sativas have little to no bulging of the center of leaflets whereas pure BLD bulges significantly in the middle.

You’ll also notice Colombians have very smooth leaflet edges too vs say SE Asians which are very pronounced, near right angled & look like alligator tails…

Interestingly @ 20% of the Gambians I bulked / reproduced many years ago had almost no leaflet serrations, they were transpiration dead ends imo but could potentially work for some as stealth, they didn’t look too much like cannabis…
 

led05

Chasing The Present
This is an unknown thai variety that came to me as "thai stick". The plant is from a regular seed pack. This is one of three plants started outside this year at 41.6°N. In late September it became obvious that these were extremely long flowering and were not going to finish until sometime in late December which is way too cold. I took a cutting of one of the plants and was able to root it indoors. The outdoor plants came down the 2nd week of November due to poor weather but were not anywhere near being mature. The plant i selected had a strong lemony cat piss type smell. I have been bending, twisting, and tieing down just to keep her manageable indoors. The outdoor plants was over 15ft high and branched like crazy. Here she is after 7 weeks of 12/12 and she still stretching and just starting to set flower. My guess it will go 16+weeks. I'll start reducing photo period at week 8 to 11.5 then 11, and finally 10.5 until it finishes. She was started in a half gallon container and up potted at week 5 to a 2 gallon of fresh homemade compost and perlite. Nothing else. I hope I can finish her properly indoors after starting life outdoors.

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Looks promising, would be nice to see it’s true leaf expressions vs the “revegged” look you get from cut right into flower…

Any pics of the outdoor plants & their life progression?

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Jahaze

subiendo el humo
Veteran
This is the only picture I have of the cultivar @led05 . It's not the same plant but they did have similar form and flower structure. The plant i kept had the least density of the three but I liked the smell. Another friend has a clone of one of the other plants which he was able to root around the same time as I did. The pictured plant was actually partially harvested in November just to try the buds and what you see if the remaining lower half. Sorry for the terrible Pic but I didn't snap any of the outdoor in its natural state. She had long leaflets especially the middle one. The indoor plant has some of the original outdoor growth at the bottom...you can kinda make it out. As she's grown indoor due due light difference/insensitivity only 3 or 4 leaflets have developed during the new growth. I'll try and get a better picture of the original growth next time she out for maintenance. Also, I'll try and get the seed breeder and origen from my friend if I can. Sorry for the poor picture.

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Stoneguru

Active member
I’ve Never heard that before, I think measuring at midpoint of each leaflet (vs where it meets petiole) gives a better representation of what you’re dealing with. IME it’s not so much the width of each leaflet but more so shape, pure sativas have little to no bulging of the center of leaflets whereas pure BLD bulges significantly in the middle.

You’ll also notice Colombians have very smooth leaflet edges too vs say SE Asians which are very pronounced, near right angled & look like alligator tails…

Interestingly @ 20% of the Gambians I bulked / reproduced many years ago had almost no leaflet serrations, they were transpiration dead ends imo but could potentially work for some as stealth, they didn’t look too much like cannabis…
I was joking of course😉. It is fun tracking all the variations of equatorials and all of the recombinations of NLD leaf traits though..that Gambian is a beautiful look.

It seems an Fgen equatorial of only 2 origins can be organized, but infinitely more complex from there. This is a great thread!
 
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