Revival of the REVIVAL of the ULTIMATE SATIVA THREAD a.k.a R.U.S.T II

[flower~power]

Yeah, I have to go with willy on that Malawi its just not for everybody

If you still have that blue dream

That looked to be just about as good as anything....

Sometimes when we spend a lot of time looking for things...Its stuff that we already have...Its True.

Actually blue dream was really really good despite the bad name that people seem to of given it it had a really good quality high and an amazing yield

 

[herbgreen]

I’m in New York State USA can I even get my hands on any ace gear?

usa for ACE is @ mandalaseeds and real gorilla, seedsman and cannapot

I think mandala even has the R and D work etc

 

[xet]

I’m not changing horses I’m holding original Haze and Nev Haze/C5 Mango both of which are extraordinarily good..I just like bullshitting with you guys but I know this is the place to go to ask for these types of questions

Ace's new thai look interesting https://www.icmag.com/threads/golden-tiger-3rd-thai-dominant-version-limited-edition.369485/

 

[xet]

Actually blue dream was really really good despite the bad name that people seem to of given it it had a really good quality high and an amazing yield

I have smoked so much blue dream I must say 'blue diesel' seems like the sativa upgrade for blue dream. Blue headband is also very nice

 

[herbgreen]

Both Blue Dream and Sour D cause obsession if you have the real thing

People will want to buy it before you grow it!

I would rather deal with blue dream obsessed than the SourD maniacs....just sayin'

Yeah, dont get much better yield than that for sure but think the haze factor you can fold into it...

Youre Original haze has got lots of potential for all cultivars.... but you see the potential

Get it....... potent-ial

Sativas are just not potent really ...once potency gets creepin' up there so does CBD levels

Its a narrow window......Youll need to do a little blending see what goes good but haze hybrids dont get much better than mangohaze

The Bluedream real cut

Its just a very very tight window to get potent and sativa Its difficult to say how you get there

The most simple answer.......You already have it

 

[herbgreen]

Ace's new thai look interesting https://www.icmag.com/threads/golden-tiger-3rd-thai-dominant-version-limited-edition.369485/

Now this is well worth a long look...Love the Golden Tiger grows I keep seeing

 

[herbgreen]

If youre shit is too good people will think its laced with PCP or LSD or something....Its True!

 

[achille]

To each his own but in my very humble opinion, I think chasing high THC numbers has been done and redone in those last decades without very impressive results quality of effects-wise.
The traditional sativa spectrum offers many different and interesting effects to explore, some are very different from the usual destroying/stoning/debilitating/scary circle.

Some plants are weak but very powerful effects wise, I've recently got my ass handed by a nepalese from RSC (Rolpa accession), it's a weak plant, indeed made for being concentrated in hash, but smoke enough of it and you will feel like a high voltage cable in human form connected to the universe. Ace sells an interesting Ethiopian that have very subtle effects, it is not a strong plant but it can brighten your day in a way that no strong strain will be able to do, subtle doesn't mean not profound and not life changing.
Sativas powers are weird: sometimes my Colombian Gold feels weak sometimes it's the strongest and deepest experience and the sun is already up where did the night go ?
Strength and yield are nice and convenient but just details, the core of the magic is elsewhere (again, just in my opinion). I am trying to sample as many different effects, to have a plant for different occasions and mood. My personal fondness is for spiritual, elevating effects that enrich life instead of subtracting from it.

Rereading my post it sounds very sanctimonious and pompous lol

 

[xet]

To each his own but in my very humble opinion, I think chasing high THC numbers has been done and redone in those last decades without very impressive results quality of effects-wise.
The traditional sativa spectrum offers many different and interesting effects to explore, some are very different from the usual destroying/stoning/debilitating/scary circle.

Some plants are weak but very powerful effects wise, I've recently got my ass handed by a nepalese from RSC (Rolpa accession), it's a weak plant, indeed made for being concentrated in hash, but smoke enough of it and you will feel like a high voltage cable in human form connected to the universe. Ace sells an interesting Ethiopian that have very subtle effects, it is not a strong plant but it can brighten your day in a way that no strong strain will be able to do, subtle doesn't mean not profound and not life changing.
Sativas powers are weird: sometimes my Colombian Gold feels weak sometimes it's the strongest and deepest experience and the sun is already up where did the night go ?
Strength and yield are nice and convenient but just details, the core of the magic is elsewhere (again, just in my opinion). I am trying to sample as many different effects, to have a plant for different occasions and mood. My personal fondness is for spiritual, elevating effects that enrich life instead of subtracting from it.

Rereading my post it sounds very sanctimonious and pompous lol

that was a nice and thoughtful read, thank you for sharing

I really like to hear that about the Rolpa! I was being curious about it

spiritual and elevating is also what I go for! the clearness of highman-being

 

[herbgreen]

Very well said indeed!

 

[willydread]

Who sells it & do you have any pics Willy?

My friend, the weed is very good in your place LOL don't you remember the rainbow??

 

[herbgreen]

Just noticed these are back @gorilla

Whatever youre doin'get some these

Its the oaxacan x hawaiian

And he used the hawaiian to BX and revitalize the oaxacan in the first place ....now crossed to Hawaiian sativa

It says kona gold but federation hawaiian sativa is from Mauna Kea which may very well be near where 'kona gold' is known be from...not sure but it produces some monster indoor buds!

Anyway...its a good one to get and will be gone... hopefully vermontman will make more packs

Mountain Gold Standard - Real Gorilla Seeds

Genetics from UV laden, clean highland air, rich forest soil of the mountains of Oaxaca to the plush vulcanic tropical highlands of Hawaii. To meet and pair in the fertile loam of the Green Mountains, using the unique to Green Mountain Seeds Highland Oaxacan Gold crossed with the Hawaiian Sativa...

www.realgorillaseeds.com

 

[flower~power]

My friend, the weed is very good in your place LOL don't you remember the rainbow??

Lol..I’m a little bit fried I’ve been lacking in brain cells over the years

 

[flower~power]

To each his own but in my very humble opinion, I think chasing high THC numbers has been done and redone in those last decades without very impressive results quality of effects-wise.
The traditional sativa spectrum offers many different and interesting effects to explore, some are very different from the usual destroying/stoning/debilitating/scary circle.

Some plants are weak but very powerful effects wise, I've recently got my ass handed by a nepalese from RSC (Rolpa accession), it's a weak plant, indeed made for being concentrated in hash, but smoke enough of it and you will feel like a high voltage cable in human form connected to the universe. Ace sells an interesting Ethiopian that have very subtle effects, it is not a strong plant but it can brighten your day in a way that no strong strain will be able to do, subtle doesn't mean not profound and not life changing.
Sativas powers are weird: sometimes my Colombian Gold feels weak sometimes it's the strongest and deepest experience and the sun is already up where did the night go ?
Strength and yield are nice and convenient but just details, the core of the magic is elsewhere (again, just in my opinion). I am trying to sample as many different effects, to have a plant for different occasions and mood. My personal fondness is for spiritual, elevating effects that enrich life instead of subtracting from it.

Rereading my post it sounds very sanctimonious and pompous lol

No you don’t sound sanctimonious & pompous I understand very clearly what you’re saying I appreciate your response..It doesn’t mean I don’t want a crushingly strong sativa with that full sativa effect in flower not concentrated into an extraction… just don’t know if they exist anymore……I’m a small scale (compared to the big boys )commercial grower & I’m not in the habit of growing anything just for the fun of it anymore … I could grow a few plants from my head but I can’t afford to go full tilt without results .. how’s that for sanctimonious & pompous? When I was a teenager growing up in the 1970s We had Mexican for $20 an ounce and it was shit then we had Jamaican which was slightly better and then by the mid 70s the Colombians at 40$ per ounce started to come around and that was incredible marijuana & surely extinct…And also the aforementioned chocolate Thai which was the crème de la crème which cost a shocking $200 per ounce in 1981 age dollars…Can adjust that for inflation realize how expensive it was

 

[herbgreen]

I know I enjoy that strawberry cough and that bruce banner is some sort StrawberryDiesel

Now that is potent

Lemon Thai repro is available fromDocD

LemonThai is potent and stable probably old hawaiian

 

[herbgreen]

DJshorts Flo uses an old chocolate thai

Crossed to oaxacan and afghani

highly motivating weed nice taste and has floral nose

good shit!

 

[romanoweed]

Sativas are just not potent really

generalisations are boring. people who think they know it all..

so thats where i come in, in MY OPPINIONATED EXPERIENCE sativa is the strongest substance i myselve factual ever experienced.

have you smoked a Thai like this? holy maria, thats different looking, huh? thats 70s thai perfection.
Its not even the amount of resin, its more the beauty, the elegance, the colors that make it almost an Artwork.. Do you see this in modern Thai?
Am i blinded by something, or...

Thats what nobody sells (in this case Gooeybreeder) . thats what is overshadowed by modern, or fake hybredised Thai, thats what few Veterans smoked at Source, and even then, you need a good Pheno, its no garantie, and the few who had this all, barely make it to icmag probably and tell halfway the average 2020 icmager what they all saw with their eyes..

Im absolutely open to consider you herbgreen beeing one of those guys, but im aware of the possibility you may not be . And therefore not know how a 70s good pheno Thai actually feelt like for me.. Mindblowing.
By the way, i left you thai68 link, oldschoolba.com, ask in the Contact inemail for it.. have fun growing something advised by somebody that actually researches aaaaaaaaaalllllllllllooooooot.

Get the Vieblack to,, luckily those are close situatet.. So you have two 70s based Landraces that you can cross together to improove the Vietblacks southern Vietnamese Part with a bit more thinleaved Thai, and a tad hybridisations apperant -ness .

Not to sound like a knows it all, but i was to tired to fill in "imho" all the time.. im very firm tho. hope now catches fire. get something advised from one of the most tiredless hunters.. stop growing the same as everyone else does imho.. if 100 people grow whatever tlt Thai.. and nobody hallucinates, tss.. its definitly worth listening to the hard workers like me?

But anyway, happy growing, but nothing for me.. yes, i mselve would never smoke MAlawi ace seeds. Thats modern Malawi, just my oppinion!!
I barely smoke Vietblack, cause i remeber much much more, and i felt it in Vietblack, but only felt.. its just a way to become bleiever, it teached me 3 Days ago how much power is in Vietblack, and in same time that it has a "Zero anxiety" Quality.

I had the 2nd best Drugexperience 3 Days ago, with VB.. but the pure Vietnamese is miles better, but its not around.. So you smoked 70s vietnamese then?? I DID.

Its like did you see an ufo= Somebody hasnt, and then says " i havent seen an Ufo, and of corse there are no Ufos"--

Now it gets more complicated: The ones who actually seen an Ufo , dont know if they really saw it, or if their Minds played a Trick on them.

(thats the analogy to our different Brainchemistrys) . So yeah, of corse its possible that im just ooooverly sensitive. and i was infact very young when this Tripweed thing happend.. But i always counter this : i smoked Hybrids so strong it made me black out on the Floor .. and zero, ZERO was it trippy..
This further promotes the idea A: that im sensitive, cause my friends dint pass out, B: that i dont normally trip on weed at all.

So, inconclusive kind of, right? So, yes, i cant proove you anything like that, i simply cant.. Leaves you guys your room for interpretation, but jesus isnt it the first law that one shouldnt generalize .. kind of? to say, all sativa is like this, and isnt like that.. LOL, makes me doubt your experience. Cannabis is for many people very different, and seriously, if somebody says he hallucinated on sativa, why still promote the idea how sativas all are?).

Hope you could understand, and i dont know.. take this as : there are very diverse differences in Cannabis, its almost endless how people percieve it, and its endless how deep some strains go. SOME found Sativa to be ultimatively intense, some found Hybrids to be ultimatively intense, some found theitr love in Thai, just Thai thai thai, some in Skunk, skunk skunk skunk, some in...
It doesent end, the oattern of Smokereports that stand out.. I didnt post mine, cause A: i know there might come a person post next to me and tell me its not true B: cause it is too good to be true. If you cant percieve such love from some particullar Cannabis of Choce, then.. then ok, then you cant.. But to claim to know exactly how it all is. Nay, not cool for me. Ao, yet another ultimatively boring post..
To all Newbies dont listen to those who didnt, listen to the Consenus of those who did.. If multiple people tell you they hallucinated on the same type weed, then thats something to llok for.. This is just my advice. Also newbies dont let you confuse if people use the wording "i tripped" on this.. Thats where it usefull to really look for the wording "Hallucinogenic" or simply somebody telling you what you saw, and what he saw beeing soimilar to other psychedelic drugs.. If the dialogue is uptodate, ask this guy if he hallucinated or more..

Dont let you confuse by people who never seen an UFO, dont.. Dont search for a very specific anwser in those people.. all they can possibly tell you is that there are no Ufos. Peace,

Again: im not saying herbgreen hasent smoked dozens of 70s Thais directly at the Source, but i layed out the possibility that this is the case,
I also layed out the posibility that im oversensitive, wich im in no way claiming, but its to consider! All i know i had 70s Thai around where i lived..

 

[flower~power]

Thank you Herb for that information ..I forgot to mention I’m also holding selected clones of The Doors x Haze/Haze And curiously enough despite the fact that it’s 3/4 Haze seems the Doors component dominates in effect . I’ve already Ran these 3 times & definitely keepers & that’s why I’m running them again These are about 2 foot tall they’ve been vegging under natural light on my outside deck now I just brought them in side put them under lamps

 

[flower~power]

generalisations are boring. people who think they know it all..

so thats where i come in, in MY OPPINIONATED EXPERIENCE sativa is the strongest substance i myselve factual ever experienced.

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have you smoked a Thai like this? holy maria, thats different looking, huh? thats 70s thai perfection.
Its not even the amount of resin, its more the beauty, the elegance, the colors that make it almost an Artwork.. Do you see this in modern Thai?
Am i blinded by something, or...

Thats what nobody sells (in this case Gooeybreeder) . thats what is overshadowed by modern, or fake hybredised Thai, thats what few Veterans smoked at Source, and even then, you need a good Pheno, its no garantie, and the few who had this all, barely make it to icmag probably and tell halfway the average 2020 icmager what they all saw with their eyes..

Im absolutely open to consider you herbgreen beeing one of those guys, but im aware of the possibility you may not be . And therefore not know how a 70s good pheno Thai actually feelt like for me.. Mindblowing.
By the way, i left you thai68 link, oldschoolba.com, ask in the Contact inemail for it.. have fun growing something advised by somebody that actually researches aaaaaaaaaalllllllllllooooooot.

Get the Vieblack to,, luckily those are close situatet.. So you have two 70s based Landraces that you can cross together to improove the Vietblacks southern Vietnamese Part with a bit more thinleaved Thai, and a tad hybridisations apperant -ness .

Not to sound like a knows it all, but i was to tired to fill in "imho" all the time.. im very firm tho. hope now catches fire. get something advised from one of the most tiredless hunters.. stop growing the same as everyone else does imho.. if 100 people grow whatever tlt Thai.. and nobody hallucinates, tss.. its definitly worth listening to the hard workers like me?

But anyway, happy growing, but nothing for me.. yes, i mselve would never smoke MAlawi ace seeds. Thats modern Malawi, just my oppinion!!
I barely smoke Vietblack, cause i remeber much much more, and i felt it in Vietblack, but only felt.. its just a way to become bleiever, it teached me 3 Days ago how much power is in Vietblack, and in same time that it has a "Zero anxiety" Quality.

I had the 2nd best Drugexperience 3 Days ago, with VB.. but the pure Vietnamese is miles better, but its not around.. So you smoked 70s vietnamese then?? I DID.

Its like did you see an ufo= Somebody hasnt, and then says " i havent seen an Ufo, and of corse there are no Ufos"--

Now it gets more complicated: The ones who actually seen an Ufo , dont know if they really saw it, or if their Minds played a Trick on them.

(thats the analogy to our different Brainchemistrys) . So yeah, of corse its possible that im just ooooverly sensitive. and i was infact very young when this Tripweed thing happend.. But i always counter this : i smoked Hybrids so strong it made me black out on the Floor .. and zero, ZERO was it trippy..
This further promotes the idea A: that im sensitive, cause my friends dint pass out, B: that i dont normally trip on weed at all.

So, inconclusive kind of, right? So, yes, i cant proove you anything like that, i simply cant.. Leaves you guys your room for interpretation, but jesus isnt it the first law that one shouldnt generalize .. kind of? to say, all sativa is like this, and isnt like that.. LOL, makes me doubt your experience. Cannabis is for many people very different, and seriously, if somebody says he hallucinated on sativa, why still promote the idea how sativas all are?).

Hope you could understand, and i dont know.. take this as : there are very diverse differences in Cannabis, its almost endless how people percieve it, and its endless how deep some strains go. SOME found Sativa to be ultimatively intense, some found Hybrids to be ultimatively intense, some found theitr love in Thai, just Thai thai thai, some in Skunk, skunk skunk skunk, some in...
It doesent end, the oattern of Smokereports that stand out.. I didnt post mine, cause A: i know there might come a person post next to me and tell me its not true B: cause it is too good to be true. If you cant percieve such love from some particullar Cannabis of Choce, then.. then ok, then you cant.. But to claim to know exactly how it all is. Nay, not cool for me. Ao, yet another ultimatively boring post..
To all Newbies dont listen to those who didnt, listen to the Consenus of those who did.. If multiple people tell you they hallucinated on the same type weed, then thats something to llok for.. This is just my advice. Also newbies dont let you confuse if people use the wording "i tripped" on this.. Thats where it usefull to really look for the wording "Hallucinogenic" or simply somebody telling you what you saw, and what he saw beeing soimilar to other psychedelic drugs.. If the dialogue is uptodate, ask this guy if he hallucinated or more..

Dont let you confuse by people who never seen an UFO, dont.. Dont search for a very specific anwser in those people.. all they can possibly tell you is that there are no Ufos. Peace,

Again: im not saying herbgreen hasent smoked dozens of 70s Thais directly at the Source, but i layed out the possibility that this is the case,
I also layed out the posibility that im oversensitive, wich im in no way claiming, but its to consider! All i know i had 70s Thai around where i lived..

 

[Chi13]

To each his own but in my very humble opinion, I think chasing high THC numbers has been done and redone in those last decades without very impressive results quality of effects-wise.
The traditional sativa spectrum offers many different and interesting effects to explore, some are very different from the usual destroying/stoning/debilitating/scary circle.

Some plants are weak but very powerful effects wise, I've recently got my ass handed by a nepalese from RSC (Rolpa accession), it's a weak plant, indeed made for being concentrated in hash, but smoke enough of it and you will feel like a high voltage cable in human form connected to the universe. Ace sells an interesting Ethiopian that have very subtle effects, it is not a strong plant but it can brighten your day in a way that no strong strain will be able to do, subtle doesn't mean not profound and not life changing.
Sativas powers are weird: sometimes my Colombian Gold feels weak sometimes it's the strongest and deepest experience and the sun is already up where did the night go ?
Strength and yield are nice and convenient but just details, the core of the magic is elsewhere (again, just in my opinion). I am trying to sample as many different effects, to have a plant for different occasions and mood. My personal fondness is for spiritual, elevating effects that enrich life instead of subtracting from it.

Rereading my post it sounds very sanctimonious and pompous lol

Really great post. I agree completely.

I have grown and smoked/vaped Ace's Ethiopian. I'd give it a 5/10 for potency but its effect is outstanding and unique. 9/10 for pleasantness. I doubt the old Thai sticks would measure in THC like modern hybrids but I bet they'd still rock. Whatever it is, whether terpenes or other cannabinoids, THC alone is not what makes cannabis great.