TychoMonolyth
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Repuk's First Outdoor Run: ACE's Honduras, Ethiopian and Lebanese
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Lebanese, Ethiopian, Honduras.
Honduras are scaring me already as seedlings...
I put one of the honduras on the micro-greenhouse yesterday and compared once no direct sun was available.
The one inside the hen coop had thrived and became bigger and wider. The one in the greenhouse felt light-shocked, even slightly "cooked" plus a tiny snail had made its way to the pot
So inside the hen coop it went. Hours later a quick but scary small hail rain stormed by... the moment I could reach the seedlings one honduras and one lebanese had wilted, maybe hail cooled their feet too much.
I moved them on a wind protected area, and used the hen fence as support letting them there, they are fine and supported theirselves fine today as seen in the pic.
Yes, I hear you dubi...
Lesson learnt: constant attention... and prevention 
So I need to think a snail/lug proof support table to raise the micro-greenhouse and... some shadow screen to put over it? under a small tree to get some shadow? Would you repot them now?
Honduras are scaring me already as seedlings...
I put one of the honduras on the micro-greenhouse yesterday and compared once no direct sun was available.
The one inside the hen coop had thrived and became bigger and wider. The one in the greenhouse felt light-shocked, even slightly "cooked" plus a tiny snail had made its way to the pot
So inside the hen coop it went. Hours later a quick but scary small hail rain stormed by... the moment I could reach the seedlings one honduras and one lebanese had wilted, maybe hail cooled their feet too much.
I moved them on a wind protected area, and used the hen fence as support letting them there, they are fine and supported theirselves fine today as seen in the pic.
Yes, I hear you dubi...
Lesson learnt: constant attention... and prevention So I need to think a snail/lug proof support table to raise the micro-greenhouse and... some shadow screen to put over it? under a small tree to get some shadow? Would you repot them now?
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Those things took off!! Looking good!!
I usually transplant when they have roots starting to show out the bottom. Don’t know if that’s best or not.
For slugs I saw Esbe use a beer can at the base (in the Bangi haze thread, linked) I have one Bangi haze outside and it’s worked so far. Others without the can have been nibbled on. So maybe worth trying.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1154398&postcount=55
I usually transplant when they have roots starting to show out the bottom. Don’t know if that’s best or not.
For slugs I saw Esbe use a beer can at the base (in the Bangi haze thread, linked) I have one Bangi haze outside and it’s worked so far. Others without the can have been nibbled on. So maybe worth trying.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1154398&postcount=55
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
Lebanese, Ethiopian, Honduras.
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Honduras are scaring me already as seedlings...
I put one of the honduras on the micro-greenhouse yesterday and compared once no direct sun was available.
The one inside the hen coop had thrived and became bigger and wider. The one in the greenhouse felt light-shocked, even slightly "cooked" plus a tiny snail had made its way to the pot
So inside the hen coop it went. Hours later a quick but scary small hail rain stormed by... the moment I could reach the seedlings one honduras and one lebanese had wilted, maybe hail cooled their feet too much.
I moved them on a wind protected area, and used the hen fence as support letting them there, they are fine and supported theirselves fine today as seen in the pic.
Yes, I hear you dubi...
So I need to think a snail/lug proof support table to raise the micro-greenhouse and... some shadow screen to put over it? under a small tree to get some shadow? Would you repot them now?
God damn... look at them go!
I've seen a ring made of Copper Foil Tape to keep slugs away.
Left to right, top to bottom: Lebanese, Ethiopian, Honduras, Honduras.
The Honduras and one Lebanese had stretched too much so I repotted them covering the extra stem.
I moved them to the micro greenhouse some days ago and they seem to have started fattening up finally.
I'm afraid I may be overwatering... one Honduras had the pot completely populated with white healthy roots...
But the rest (another honduras, one Lebanese and one Ethiopian) didn't had that many roots, and their color wasn't as white... so promised myself not to water until I see them droopy.
Didn't move/repot the remaining Ethiopian and Lebanese, as they hardly have put out the first set of true leaves. Maybe same overwatering mistake...
I used small pots to lessen my overwatering tendency, for soil I used 80% blumenerde, 20% humus, and a good dose (12grams or so) of Leonardite well mixed with the soil.
The Honduras and one Lebanese had stretched too much so I repotted them covering the extra stem.
I moved them to the micro greenhouse some days ago and they seem to have started fattening up finally.
I'm afraid I may be overwatering... one Honduras had the pot completely populated with white healthy roots...
But the rest (another honduras, one Lebanese and one Ethiopian) didn't had that many roots, and their color wasn't as white... so promised myself not to water until I see them droopy.
Didn't move/repot the remaining Ethiopian and Lebanese, as they hardly have put out the first set of true leaves. Maybe same overwatering mistake...
I used small pots to lessen my overwatering tendency, for soil I used 80% blumenerde, 20% humus, and a good dose (12grams or so) of Leonardite well mixed with the soil.
Thanks Kaskadian!
I find myself petting them each few hours... bugs (white flies, aphids and ants) are thriving around...
As soon as I feel they are well stablished in the new pots, will water them with Neem oil.
Just received the potassic soap, would they be too young to use it? (as it's also a potassium fertilizer?)
In the meanwhile, hired a guardian
I find myself petting them each few hours... bugs (white flies, aphids and ants) are thriving around...
As soon as I feel they are well stablished in the new pots, will water them with Neem oil.
Just received the potassic soap, would they be too young to use it? (as it's also a potassium fertilizer?)
In the meanwhile, hired a guardian
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nice.good luck.i'll be folowing this thread 
Update
Update
This seems to have been one of these situations where doing nothing was the best possible action...
Once I stopped trying to drown them (coco style), they started making progress... I haven't watered them in a week (since repotting), watching them closely in order to water as soon as I notice droopiness.
It clicked instantly in my head while reading TychoMonolyth's Many Forest Gorillas vs Several Forest and Well Tended Plants yesterday (great thread! still reading!)
That will explain why they aren't drinking if any while thriving inside the micro greenhouse (has ventilation)...
Update
This seems to have been one of these situations where doing nothing was the best possible action...
Once I stopped trying to drown them (coco style), they started making progress... I haven't watered them in a week (since repotting), watching them closely in order to water as soon as I notice droopiness.
It clicked instantly in my head while reading TychoMonolyth's Many Forest Gorillas vs Several Forest and Well Tended Plants yesterday (great thread! still reading!)
Ibechillin said:
That will explain why they aren't drinking if any while thriving inside the micro greenhouse (has ventilation)...
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TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
Can't wait to see them all grown up. Nothing will turn your head like a beautiful spanish woman.
Tychomololyth said:
I have located an outstanding quality peat/humus soil, a friend opened a grow-shop/agricultural/farmer supplies store and offers me killing prices, specially by volume.
The smart pots he has: 50L/13gal, 70L/18gal and 150L/40gal, thought on repotting to 70L for vegging, and to 150L prior to flower, does that sound fine?
Tycho curious of your on-spot super-soil amendments...
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
I've never grown in pots. But a friend wants to try it in 5gal pails. I think wider is better than deeper though. I read somewhere that when left to grow freely, roughly 80% of the root mass will reside in the top 12 inches of soil.
I'm tempted to do a trial directly on the ground... the spot is surrounded by reeds, soil is forest-like: full of reeds rhizomes (nothing that some pick wouldn't fix), but really dark, fragrant smelling and loose.
My fears: not being able to move the plants if need arises, and looking on how surrounding plants develop, afraid of ending up with a monster...
Gonna try with a Krystalica cut I was about to ditch... (I know these develop into small plants). This way I can get some training on me to fight pests or other issues before I bring the ACE seedlings, etc and see also how does the ground soil perform.
That makes a lot of sense, and in line with the tropical sativas info Ibechillin posted... also being cannabis a seasonal plant why devote that much energy to throw a deep tap root...
My fears: not being able to move the plants if need arises, and looking on how surrounding plants develop, afraid of ending up with a monster...
Gonna try with a Krystalica cut I was about to ditch... (I know these develop into small plants). This way I can get some training on me to fight pests or other issues before I bring the ACE seedlings, etc and see also how does the ground soil perform.
Tychomonolyth said:
That makes a lot of sense, and in line with the tropical sativas info Ibechillin posted... also being cannabis a seasonal plant why devote that much energy to throw a deep tap root...
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TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
We have a common reed, and it's taking over everything and in many rural ditches. It's at least 7' high and thrives in ditches and wetlands. There's some in my ditch and encroaching on the lawn. I mow them down but they're here to stay. Great hiding spot though.I'm tempted to do a trial directly on the ground... the spot is surrounded by reeds, soil is forest-like: full of reeds rhizomes (nothing that some pick wouldn't fix), but really dark, fragrant smelling and loose.
My fears: not being able to move the plants if need arises, and looking on how surrounding plants develop, afraid of ending up with a monster...
Gonna try with a Krystalica cut I was about to ditch... (I know these develop into small plants). This way I can get some training on me to fight pests or other issues before I bring the ACE seedlings, etc and see how does the ground soil perform.
That makes a lot of sense, and in line with the tropical sativas info Ibechillin posted... also being cannabis a seasonal plant why devote that much energy to throw a deep tap root...
If your plant gets too big, bend it (supercrop).
I want to try superautos next year for an August crop. Still researching it.
Last two repotted
Last two repotted
Just repotted the last two:
Mixed 50% coco this time with blumenerde for more porosity. Will start adding perlite/vermiculite to tweak water retention and drainage respectively next time, slowly getting the hang of soil and water.
Honduras are the tallest and lankiest so far. All look lanky and lovely wild, really spaced internodes.
Some tiny snail tested the biggest honduras (hole can be seen) and it seems didn't like the taste at all... found the lil bastard on the smallest Ethiopian.
Full sun for them today, removed the micro greenhouse "roof".
Will start feeding neem on the biggest ones tomorrow.
Last two repotted
Just repotted the last two:
Mixed 50% coco this time with blumenerde for more porosity. Will start adding perlite/vermiculite to tweak water retention and drainage respectively next time, slowly getting the hang of soil and water.
Honduras are the tallest and lankiest so far. All look lanky and lovely wild, really spaced internodes.
Some tiny snail tested the biggest honduras (hole can be seen) and it seems didn't like the taste at all...
found the lil bastard on the smallest Ethiopian.Full sun for them today, removed the micro greenhouse "roof".
Will start feeding neem on the biggest ones tomorrow.
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
I just found this to water inground plants. Ancient Technology using Terracotta pots looks good. Might work well in your climate.
https://www.permaculture.co.uk/read...rrigation-simple-adaptation-ancient-technique
https://www.permaculture.co.uk/read...rrigation-simple-adaptation-ancient-technique
