Renting a house?

[BrnCow]

On cameras. I would use the wired one instead of wireless. There is a device available to hack into cameras and mess with them for a few $K...wired might be harder to hack into and use a wired modem also...,might have a security systems that beeps your phone if it detects movement in the room and put it pointed in the entryway and at the front door...
maybe one for each room also to keep watch for smoke and entry...turn them off while you are there..

 

[fizzy187]

Dont know how this will help but i think just being a model tenant will suffice apart from the regular gas safety inspection and the letting agent 'question time' visit in regards to inventory and any concerns you may have.

Aside from these aspects i think your alright,it seems a lil crazy renting for the sake of growing,or starting a grow as soon as ya move in,but in reality try and feel like ya been living there for quite some time and that you just started..it will help with the nerves and getting ta know the neighbours is a major plus!

good tidings upon you and yours sir!

 

[bobblehead]

Yeah, my neighbor decided to sprout a bunch of bag seeds in the back yard... I really didn't like that! Dumb mfer... I stuck a bubblegum clone in the pot to send a little "I see you" message. The pot isn't out there anymore.

 

[what the]

Yeah, my neighbor decided to sprout a bunch of bag seeds in the back yard... I really didn't like that! Dumb mfer... I stuck a bubblegum clone in the pot to send a little "I see you" message. The pot isn't out there anymore.

Ok that's awesome!

Lots of people rent houses just for this purpose. Be selective. There are a lot of empty houses out there right now. Be sure to ask if they plan on selling. Damn near all leases allow them to show the property if they are going to sell it. They still need to give notice, but you're out of business. This is more common right now with people trying to unload properties they can't afford. Sometimes they rent them out to stem the cost but still want to sell and will try again while renters are in the unit.
Just be a normal citizen, and don't steal electricity (they will find you, they have the technology). Best advice in one sentence. You want to blend in as much as possible, give people no reason to think twice about you. 99% of the house bust stories you read are either stolen electricity or some dude trying to be a gangsta. Bad business decisions right there.

 

[dtfsux]

I wouldnt rent a house. Look in the legal section at all the "my landlord....." too much risk.

Subject 2
Land Trusts

Very common in the US, probably the same in Canada

 

[T-type]

If you can't buy, you have to rent. that goes without saying.

 

[clp]

Pay your rent in money orders. Happens all the time from people who cannot get checking accounts. No one at the money order store will even bat an eye at your stack of cash. that's what they see all day.

That sounds like a great idea! Now I can fund somewhat with my cash back from cropping out!
Thanks

Yes, thank you government for giving me the funds to open up shop... lol

where i live schools can equal double sentence

Ouch.. I won't be near schools!

IMHO, I think it would be better to "buy" a house with owner finance or rent to own if it would give you "owners" rights instead of "renters" rights! A few dollars spent at a lawyers office could explain what your rights are. After you are through, clean it thoroughly and either give it back with an explanation of how you lost your job and were moving or sell it for payoff price and up your credit score at the same time, find some deserving family and get with the owner and set them up in it so they could finish paying it off and get your name clear of it, or just buy it until you need to split and split..clean it completely! No evidence at all! Call the owner and tell him you are out and he can sell it again! Even if you had to pay a $5ooo down payment, a pound or two would cover the costs and the years payments, insurance, and bills...

What is owners finance? I will definetly be looking into "rent to own" if it gives me more rights.. That gets around the mortgage and down payments but still allows me great rights!
I'll also be leaving and then coming back quite often due to a program that I am going to be enrolled in. I will be gone in 3-4 month blocks of time so every time that happens I think I'm going to switch rentals.. I don't want to go through the hassle of rebuying a house every year or two..

If I called the owner and said I lost my job and he could sell it would this affect my credit rating at all?

On cameras. I would use the wired one instead of wireless. There is a device available to hack into cameras and mess with them for a few $K...wired might be harder to hack into and use a wired modem also...,might have a security systems that beeps your phone if it detects movement in the room and put it pointed in the entryway and at the front door...
maybe one for each room also to keep watch for smoke and entry...turn them off while you are there..

I think I'm going to look into this for sure!
1 camera per room + 1 camera at the front door.
How much do you think it'd cost for a 4 camera setup, all wired, and sent remotely to my iphone
I need to research this more..

Dont know how this will help but i think just being a model tenant will suffice apart from the regular gas safety inspection and the letting agent 'question time' visit in regards to inventory and any concerns you may have.

Aside from these aspects i think your alright,it seems a lil crazy renting for the sake of growing,or starting a grow as soon as ya move in,but in reality try and feel like ya been living there for quite some time and that you just started..it will help with the nerves and getting ta know the neighbours is a major plus!

good tidings upon you and yours sir!

I am going to live there 2-3 months before starting the grow as I have my indoor grow here in MI finishing up until october or November..
This will give me some time to research and get a feel for where I am living.

I am really good at blending in with people, and getting people to "like" me so I feel that this part won't be too hard. I don't look like a grower, druggie, or stoner AT ALL so this could help too.

Yeah, my neighbor decided to sprout a bunch of bag seeds in the back yard... I really didn't like that! Dumb mfer... I stuck a bubblegum clone in the pot to send a little "I see you" message. The pot isn't out there anymore.

Ok that's awesome!

Lots of people rent houses just for this purpose. Be selective. There are a lot of empty houses out there right now. Be sure to ask if they plan on selling. Damn near all leases allow them to show the property if they are going to sell it. They still need to give notice, but you're out of business. This is more common right now with people trying to unload properties they can't afford. Sometimes they rent them out to stem the cost but still want to sell and will try again while renters are in the unit.
Just be a normal citizen, and don't steal electricity (they will find you, they have the technology). Best advice in one sentence. You want to blend in as much as possible, give people no reason to think twice about you. 99% of the house bust stories you read are either stolen electricity or some dude trying to be a gangsta. Bad business decisions right there.

GREAT IDEA
+REP to you!
I will for sure check my lease to make sure if they can bring visitors in or not. This would be a HUGE issue.
I definetly won't be stealing electricity.. Besides the fact that I am growing everything here will be legal

I'm excited to "blend in". I always like blending and changing to fit what people think I should be. I am a master of disguise..

I wouldnt rent a house. Look in the legal section at all the "my landlord....." too much risk.

Subject 2
Land Trusts

Very common in the US, probably the same in Canada

There is more risk than buying but I just don't think I can afford to buy a house right now.
That and the fact that I will be leaving 5 times over 5 years in waterloo for 3-4 months because of a program I am enrolled in.
I'll probably switch houses every 1 or 2 moves so buying would be somewhat a waste of money.

Can you explain Land trusts? I haven't heard of them

If you can't buy, you have to rent. that goes without saying.

Exactly..
I feel it's safer to rent a location off of where I live without any traffic or reason for suspicion then grow where I am renting now or will be renting and living. It's so limiting then..

Thanks for the great amount of help IC!

CLP

 

[dagnabit]

i dont wanna sound like a dick...

but if your renting dont grow anything more than a small closet.

im a landlord im also a grower and smoker and it would kill me to do it but if i knew (or even suspected ) a tenant was running a commercial op id have to evict or report them just to keep from losing my home.
dont put a landlord in that position

 

[clp]

i dont wanna sound like a dick...

but if your renting dont grow anything more than a small closet.

im a landlord im also a grower and smoker and it would kill me to do it but if i knew (or even suspected ) a tenant was running a commercial op id have to evict or report them just to keep from losing my home.
dont put a landlord in that position

Thank for stoppin through dagnabit,
This house will be run purely for growing. I will not be living there.
The point of this is that the landlord will not know that someone is growing there
Everything will be stealth, I will be low key but friendly to neighbors, scent, light, and sound will be controlled. Electricity will be kept to a resonable level. Camera's will possibly be installed with motion detectors. All locks will be changed.
I realize that there is a certain level of risk growing in a rental, but i feel that if I find the right one (I will be very particular about my landlord, location, etc.) I think I can do it safely.

If I was a landlord I wouldn't want someone growing commercially there either.. Way too much liability and for no share? Haha
I wouldn't care if I didn't "know" though. That way nothing could be pinned back on me..

CLP

 

[Nicoli]

i dont wanna sound like a dick...

but if your renting dont grow anything more than a small closet.

im a landlord im also a grower and smoker and it would kill me to do it but if i knew (or even suspected ) a tenant was running a commercial op id have to evict or report them just to keep from losing my home.
dont put a landlord in that position

So..... Yer' willing to turn someone in for the same thing you do?
Seems a bit.. harsh.. no? There are better ways to handle that situation than putting someone in jail/prison. Also you'll live with the fact that you sent someone to jail/prison over the same plant you grow.. That will feel great. Yes it's a dick move.

Would you flip for the DEA too?

 

[iSMOKE.KUSH]

i've grown in 5+ rentals.

i used to have a very mobile 6,000 watt op. i'd do 2 grows and leave. in 2 of the places i did one grow..felt the heat and i left.

i had a permanent place for 2 moms and a bunch of clones.

 

[redspaghetti]

Best advices about renting a House to grow:

- Blend in
- Be a normal citizen
- Dont steal electricity
- Dont create any attention
- Pay all your bills on time
- Keep your mouth shut


cheers,
red.

 

[dagnabit]

So..... Yer' willing to turn someone in for the same thing you do?
Seems a bit.. harsh.. no? There are better ways to handle that situation than putting someone in jail/prison. Also you'll live with the fact that you sent someone to jail/prison over the same plant you grow.. That will feel great. Yes it's a dick move.

Would you flip for the DEA too?

ive been to prison because i did not flip have you?

this is completely different..google the "rave" act that got passed in '02 that got nooo publicity.
now what i said was evict or turn in..

would you have a person who rented you a house loose that $300k house so you could make a few bucks? seems a bit harsh no? There are better ways to handle that situation than putting someone at risk for your benefit. that would feel great. yes its a dick move.

 

[beejium]

look around lots of good stuff around.

I just bought a trialor on about 5 acres on land riduculiously cheap!!! needs some work, but i think i'm safer here than in an apt. oh yea it's only 10 mins to the nearest town and 15 mins to the nearest hospital. gotta go for now, going to play outside

 

[dagnabit]

^^^^

thats how i started...

$250 a month was the mortagage no credit check needed

 

[Guest 150314]

I am not trying to hate but I don't see this working out so well, sounds like a nice dream but not feasible. I would be damn suspicious if a college kid wanted to rent a multi bedroom home for himself and could afford the whole place on student loans?

You going to need enough cash for rent and bills for at least 6 months before you can start relying on the grow because you likely don't have a connection for clones and would need to start from seed, and if you don't have a solid connection what are you gonna do with all the weed you grow?

 

[clp]

i've grown in 5+ rentals.

i used to have a very mobile 6,000 watt op. i'd do 2 grows and leave. in 2 of the places i did one grow..felt the heat and i left.

i had a permanent place for 2 moms and a bunch of clones.

Any advice for me from all that experience?
What do you mean by mobile? I want to get the most mobile possible.. I'm stuck between tents ($$$$) or just panda polying the entire room. I'll probably try to stick to 2-3 grows at the most.

What do you mean by heat?
What did the neighbors think of you?
What kind of security did you do?
How often did you stay at the house, and were you "active" there?

Sorry for all the questions.. This is a big decision with alot of risk so I want to get it right.

Best advices about renting a House to grow:

- Blend in
- Be a normal citizen
- Dont steal electricity
- Dont create any attention
- Pay all your bills on time
- Keep your mouth shut


cheers,
red.

Got it

ive been to prison because i did not flip have you?

this is completely different..google the "rave" act that got passed in '02 that got nooo publicity.
now what i said was evict or turn in..

would you have a person who rented you a house loose that $300k house so you could make a few bucks? seems a bit harsh no? There are better ways to handle that situation than putting someone at risk for your benefit. that would feel great. yes its a dick move.

Yea.. I think you're right on this one.
If I was a landlord and someone was growing illegally in my place, I probably wouldn't want them there either.. If they do something dumb, then I can get in trouble too..

look around lots of good stuff around.

I just bought a trialor on about 5 acres on land riduculiously cheap!!! needs some work, but i think i'm safer here than in an apt. oh yea it's only 10 mins to the nearest town and 15 mins to the nearest hospital. gotta go for now, going to play outside

This is what I really really want to do - a house in the boonies with generators - but I will not have a car next year so that's probably not an option.. It needs to be within biking distance or on the bus route.

^^^^

thats how i started...

$250 a month was the mortagage no credit check needed

Wish I could...

 

[dtfsux]

The RAVE act looks like it is intended more for ecstasy than anything else. What I read on wiki is it had to do with club owners providing an environment for ecstasy users such as cool rooms, cold water, pacifiers, glow sticks etc.

It would be hard to say a LL knew his tenant was growing, and unless you own the house outright, the govt isnt thinking about touching it.


I do not know about canada but I know in the US I can buy a house cheaper than renting.

Last house I bought I assumed the mortgage with no money down and simply payed around $1300 in closing costs. Mortgage was not in my name but I owned the home.

Google "Subject 2 financing"

Land trust is an entity kind of like a corporation but not the way most imagine. It is a formal entity. Land trust owns the property, you control land trust. Land trust is called "123 mary jane avenue".

Cops bust one house, look for other houses in your name, and they cant find any.





I would not want a rental house with equipment etc if I was going to be gone 3-4 months at a time.

 

[clp]

The RAVE act looks like it is intended more for ecstasy than anything else. What I read on wiki is it had to do with club owners providing an environment for ecstasy users such as cool rooms, cold water, pacifiers, glow sticks etc.

It would be hard to say a LL knew his tenant was growing, and unless you own the house outright, the govt isnt thinking about touching it.


I do not know about canada but I know in the US I can buy a house cheaper than renting.

Last house I bought I assumed the mortgage with no money down and simply payed around $1300 in closing costs. Mortgage was not in my name but I owned the home.

Google "Subject 2 financing"

Land trust is an entity kind of like a corporation but not the way most imagine. It is a formal entity. Land trust owns the property, you control land trust. Land trust is called "123 mary jane avenue".

Cops bust one house, look for other houses in your name, and they cant find any.





I would not want a rental house with equipment etc if I was going to be gone 3-4 months at a time.

Yea, when I have to leave the grow equipment will be thrown into storage and most likely the rental house will be ditched.

All of the houses I see that would fit my situation to buy are near $80,000 - 100,000.
I feel like this is extremely high and out of my budget, but I'm not quite sure.
I'll have around $10k hopefully to invest into this grow.
That includes 3-5 other lights + A/C + grow materials AND my rent/mortgage + electricity.

After I get a couple crops in I should have some money to invest more, but right now that's my limit.
Think I could work out a situation to buy or get a house with better rights with that much money?

With a land trust how does payment work?
Sounds much safer..
Thanks for all the help.

+rep to you!

 

[beejium]

It just takes some saving and holding a job. Hell if you tie to the power grid and pay, you won't need generators. that should save enough to get a car.

After the many problems that i have been through trying to grow in apts, it's not worth it. I never had problems with the power company, or the landlord. The real problem i had was people thinking they could ride off my grow. Telling one friend was a big mistake in my case. I almost lost everything i had.

Grow some vegitables and house plants. you might be able to sell some here and there if you have a farmers market near by. it will atleast give you a few extra bucks to buy a bag now and then.