Reeferman's strains

[Pangea]

I have received all 224 of my parent strains from where I had them in the UK since my European / South American time everything I had built my stock on old and new except vietnamese black has been rebred it is being used in research , I even managed to get Willie nelson back .
I am working with some very exciting new genetics from Vietnam Hou bac or silver flower that is outstanding in terms Unique Sativa genetics .
Charles

Are you saying you have recouped all your parent plants? So you could, in theory, recreate all your commercially offered varieties? Except for the VB offspring being slightly different due to it having to be rebred.

In the near future patients will be able to have the best of the collection delivered to there home Canada wide in the form of finished products .

Charles

What will this cost patients, per gram?

 

[Charles-scott]

The first harmony were just f-1 lemmon thai x males(3) x lemon larry OG clone than , 2 selected pheno's were hit with a SMCG male the offspring of those were sold to hemp depot Honestly I can not recall if 200 of the the f-1's were sold to hemp depot or not ? I think they were and than we followed up on a 2nd order with the Lemmon thai x lemon larry x Smcg .
Now I am working with the lemon larry IBL from Alpine seeds and have been since it was first released they did a great job with that !

If you have the cutting I have shared in BC it in very few hands you will have the f-1 , the majority of seeds will be that clone pollinated with SMCG males (3) .
Its highly possible that some early seeds max 200 were also the same f-1 seeds that the clone is from .
I kept 150 seeds back for my own use roughly 350 were ever made of Harmony f-1 the SMCG X is a better producer and has all the taste its even stronger according to friends growing it in South America who have made litres of seeds from it .
There are no dogs in those seeds every plant is a keeper .

I have no idea what happened with Hao bac I am really sorry you had shitty results its pretty strange those seeds were bred around the same time as Harmony in the same rooms and I found everything was great , I would offer to replace them but I can not sell seeds or anything for that matter it would compromise my employment contract .
Pangea
I have recovered the vast majority of the lines used to breed the early work , I am absent some clones but I have been able to pull out exceptional individuals from my seed stock .
I had enough seeds put away to at least get great new parents , also the massive population selection I did in South american on certain strains has resulted in much much better plants than we ever has in the past .

A good example would be burmese when you select the best parents from 500 males and females the offspring improve I have yet to be able to recover anything that I want from seed stock .
My goals have changed so much as a breeder its not about impressing anyone its about meeting goals , in certain circumstances its about not getting people too high !
LOL

Peace Charles

 

[smile]

Newberry

Newberry

Good to see you again Reeferman.

Now that you're contracturally out of the seed business could you answer a question about your Newberry strain?

The lineage was kept secret, but I'd really love to know what the Newberry line was made out of.

It had such super sweet berry scents that it would be great to grow that line again, even if it is as a pheno search from the mystery parent stock if it is still available from anyone anywhere.

 

[mofeta]

I know another breeder who has my genetics many of my clones etc , we will see what he does with them .
CS

Is it Jordan, maybe? Keep us updated about this if you can, there are a bunch of things you used to offer that I kick myself for not getting when I could.

I still remember back in 03 or so, all your stuff was $35 a pack. Willie, AGxHN, all sorts of rare stuff only you offered. Unbelievable. The low price actually threw me for a while, I couldn't believe the seeds would be what you said they were. It didn't take long to figure out they were the real deal!

I bought a lot of them, but should have gotten more. That there is even a possibility of the chance of doing so makes me happy.

Hey, is the OPT among the stock you recovered? How about the AGxHN?

Thanks

mofeta

 

[silverhazefiend]

I got my harmony from seedsman ceeds ..do u kno what stock that is ?
I also have some of those alpine beans ..I have the lemon larry og IBl crossed to sfv ,sour d ..larry og and one more I forget the name ..from around tht same time 09 ? 08 ?

 

[barefootseeds]

The first harmony were just f-1 lemmon thai x males(3) x lemon larry OG clone than , 2 selected pheno's were hit with a SMCG male the offspring of those were sold to hemp depot Honestly I can not recall if 200 of the the f-1's were sold to hemp depot or not ? I think they were and than we followed up on a 2nd order with the Lemmon thai x lemon larry x Smcg .
Now I am working with the lemon larry IBL from Alpine seeds and have been since it was first released they did a great job with that !

If you have the cutting I have shared in BC it in very few hands you will have the f-1 , the majority of seeds will be that clone pollinated with SMCG males (3) .
Its highly possible that some early seeds max 200 were also the same f-1 seeds that the clone is from .
I kept 150 seeds back for my own use roughly 350 were ever made of Harmony f-1 the SMCG X is a better producer and has all the taste its even stronger according to friends growing it in South America who have made litres of seeds from it .
There are no dogs in those seeds every plant is a keeper .

I have no idea what happened with Hao bac I am really sorry you had shitty results its pretty strange those seeds were bred around the same time as Harmony in the same rooms and I found everything was great , I would offer to replace them but I can not sell seeds or anything for that matter it would compromise my employment contract .
Pangea
I have recovered the vast majority of the lines used to breed the early work , I am absent some clones but I have been able to pull out exceptional individuals from my seed stock .
I had enough seeds put away to at least get great new parents , also the massive population selection I did in South american on certain strains has resulted in much much better plants than we ever has in the past .

A good example would be burmese when you select the best parents from 500 males and females the offspring improve I have yet to be able to recover anything that I want from seed stock .
My goals have changed so much as a breeder its not about impressing anyone its about meeting goals , in certain circumstances its about not getting people too high !
LOL

Peace Charles

What were the harmony seeds that vancouver seed bank was selling ?

 

[Rinse]

I have recovered the vast majority of the lines used to breed the early work , I am absent some clones but I have been able to pull out exceptional individuals from my seed stock .
I had enough seeds put away to at least get great new parents , also the massive population selection I did in South american on certain strains has resulted in much much better plants than we ever has in the past .

A good example would be burmese when you select the best parents from 500 males and females the offspring improve I have yet to be able to recover anything that I want from seed stock .
My goals have changed so much as a breeder its not about impressing anyone its about meeting goals , in certain circumstances its about not getting people too high !
LOL

Peace Charles

Hi Charles, glad to hear your old strains are not lost, do you still have access to the old Affie lines like Double Afghan Slam and its relatives? I know a bunch of guerilla growers that would kill for some!
As I understand it C-Ray was working with that side of the equation, seems he has the golden touch for outdoor breeding.
Burmese too was great pot.

 

[zachrockbadenof]

yo reef... if u need seeds of asia girl,willie,cherry bomb n 1-2 others, we still have 1/2-3/4 packs of your 'SHIT'

and I mean "SHIT' in the worse way...

 

[Charles-scott]

Good to see you again Reeferman.

Now that you're contracturally out of the seed business could you answer a question about your Newberry strain?

The lineage was kept secret, but I'd really love to know what the Newberry line was made out of.

It had such super sweet berry scents that it would be great to grow that line again, even if it is as a pheno search from the mystery parent stock if it is still available from anyone anywhere.

Grape Rom x Burmese

Zachr
I am really confused I have asked you where you got the seeds Asia girl was bred in 01 and only sold at heavens stairway and that predated Willie nelson , Cherry bomb was sold under the Prairie fire label and RMS .

I have have some DAS and TAS seeds in my collection , Everything that was done back in the day was done in agreement between c-ray and I .
The afghani 77 used in the DAS was from the Prairie fire days it was used in bear cub , Auto afghani and others way back it was pre soviet afghani line bred on Canada's maritime coast by a relative of mine who was a influence in my breeding cannabis .
We also used cream Sodica in that line, that part is lost , however I have other genetics from Afghanistan that are superior to CS these plants are Semi-auto .
The Semi auto type plants are just from extreme high altitude ,they become super photo-period sensitive this is due to environmental phenotypic expression , aka phentypic plasticity .

When examining these plants by GC we find only slight chemical variation from low land cultivars to extreme high altitude cultivars despite the fact we have 2 extremely different physical expressions it teaches us just how much our favorite plant changes to meet the demand of its environment circumstances .
This is also indicative of the reason we have hermaphrodites lurking in a majority of population cultivated Cannabis , the plant never stops amazing me !

Charles
G

 

[moses wellfleet]

yo reef... if u need seeds of asia girl,willie,cherry bomb n 1-2 others, we still have 1/2-3/4 packs of your 'SHIT'

and I mean "SHIT' in the worse way...

doesn't germinate the full pack but still bad mouths the gear... Have you ever heard of phenotypes?

 

[kak1963]

hey Charles. how ya been would be nice to talk to ya again sometime.. get a hold of me if u can .. KaK

 

[new3]

hey reef tell us more about Alaskan thunderfuck and if the real atf has their last 2 smallest fingered fan leaves directly attached to the corresponding bigger pair on each sides rather than being attached to the leaf stem on its own can you confirm this? and what do you know?

 

[Bob Green]

The first harmony were just f-1 lemmon thai x males(3) x lemon larry OG clone than , 2 selected pheno's were hit with a SMCG male the offspring of those were sold to hemp depot Honestly I can not recall if 200 of the the f-1's were sold to hemp depot or not ? I think they were and than we followed up on a 2nd order with the Lemmon thai x lemon larry x Smcg .
Now I am working with the lemon larry IBL from Alpine seeds and have been since it was first released they did a great job with that !

If you have the cutting I have shared in BC it in very few hands you will have the f-1 , the majority of seeds will be that clone pollinated with SMCG males (3) .
Its highly possible that some early seeds max 200 were also the same f-1 seeds that the clone is from .
I kept 150 seeds back for my own use roughly 350 were ever made of Harmony f-1 the SMCG X is a better producer and has all the taste its even stronger according to friends growing it in South America who have made litres of seeds from it .
There are no dogs in those seeds every plant is a keeper .


Peace Charles

This was the info when I got the beans from HD.

Harmony

Indoor

Harmony captures the essence of the Kush craze as of current with the Zoned head space of a very old thai strain from the mid 80's, its an OG sativa aka lemon og crossed with a pure Thai, its very special. The OG is not the fastest growing plant, but the pure Thai stretches it out and adds a real heady vibe and also maintains the lemon zing. They take 9-10 weeks and yield is high for a kush dominant stain these are ideal for growing big in buckets! The buds are true AAA in bc standards a cutting of this is circulating in vancouver being called "rock star". Flowering 9 to 10 weeks


A while later maybe a year or so after I purchased my pack the discription changed to this.


Reefermans Seeds - Harmony

Harmony is a three way hybrid of Reeferman’s Santa Marta Colombian Gold x OG Kush (Lemon OG) x Lemon Thai Male. This is what Reeferman calls his ‘Holy Grail’ – the strain he is most proud of and would like to recommend above all his others. It is outstanding in both effect and its tongue-coating taste. Its high is super lifting and motivating when used in moderation. Although it is very clearly Kush in its bud structure the general plant structure leans towards the Thai Father, but surprisingly and positively it is ready for harvest in 8-9 weeks. It produces good yields when allowed to grow large outside or in a sea of green set up. The flavour is distinctively lemon kush.

Genetics: Santa Marta Colombian Gold x OG Kush x Lemon Thai
Variety: Indica/Sativa

Flowering Time: 8-9 Weeks


Your post kind of cleared up some confusion I had. I figure I have some of the first release. I would love to try both versions!

 

[Bob Green]

hey reef tell us more about Alaskan thunderfuck and if the real atf has their last 2 smallest fingered fan leaves directly attached to the corresponding bigger pair on each sides rather than being attached to the leaf stem on its own can you confirm this? and what do you know?

I would love any info on this one as well. It was the first strain I ever grew. Any chance for a Kodiak Gold again?

 

[Charles-scott]

That confirms what I thought I had sold the first 200 seeds to HD than sold them a larger amount of the 2nd generation , Kodiak gold is not around another I no longer have.

This was the info when I got the beans from HD.

Harmony

Indoor

Harmony captures the essence of the Kush craze as of current with the Zoned head space of a very old thai strain from the mid 80's, its an OG sativa aka lemon og crossed with a pure Thai, its very special. The OG is not the fastest growing plant, but the pure Thai stretches it out and adds a real heady vibe and also maintains the lemon zing. They take 9-10 weeks and yield is high for a kush dominant stain these are ideal for growing big in buckets! The buds are true AAA in bc standards a cutting of this is circulating in vancouver being called "rock star". Flowering 9 to 10 weeks


A while later maybe a year or so after I purchased my pack the discription changed to this.


Reefermans Seeds - Harmony

Harmony is a three way hybrid of Reeferman’s Santa Marta Colombian Gold x OG Kush (Lemon OG) x Lemon Thai Male. This is what Reeferman calls his ‘Holy Grail’ – the strain he is most proud of and would like to recommend above all his others. It is outstanding in both effect and its tongue-coating taste. Its high is super lifting and motivating when used in moderation. Although it is very clearly Kush in its bud structure the general plant structure leans towards the Thai Father, but surprisingly and positively it is ready for harvest in 8-9 weeks. It produces good yields when allowed to grow large outside or in a sea of green set up. The flavour is distinctively lemon kush.

Genetics: Santa Marta Colombian Gold x OG Kush x Lemon Thai
Variety: Indica/Sativa

Flowering Time: 8-9 Weeks


Your post kind of cleared up some confusion I had. I figure I have some of the first release. I would love to try both versions!

 

[bigherb]

Reef


Its Nice too see you posting ,glad your back to share your knowledge an hopfully some genetics in the future


I always appreciated your detailed an honest responses (thanks for setting St8 about the Nevil Reef suppose medical site ).I also appreciated the spreading an preserving an not following trends .Your Genetics valut was long an unique ,an i was just getting started bad timing lol

Ive also appreciated your work ive tasted in the Dam G13Haze- PG13 x NH an the Love potion an willie nelson were amongst the best offerings in the CS during that trip


I hope you still have some old stock aswell such as the Haze Bros Haze ,You said it was from the man himself in other words .But the description was Dead on to me an what i know as haze .Im also hoping you have some old Ghanis such as the King n Queen lines ,Accidental Haze ,Odins hammer ,Petrolia headstash damni could go on

Best wishes

1luvbigherb

 

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[Bob Green]

One more Harmony question?

Is the Lemon Thai the same line from Dutch Flowers a few other guys like Mota, Bhodi, Fusion are working with, or a seperate line all together?

 

[fabvariousk]

Is Barney's dr. Grinspoon Senior Garcia?

 

[Charles-scott]

One more Harmony question?

Is the Lemon Thai the same line from Dutch Flowers a few other guys like Mota, Bhodi, Fusion are working with, or a seperate line all together?

Thanks for all the comments and support , the lemmon thai I use is actually a pure Thai strain I received in a trade directly from Chang mai in the north of Thailand , about 20% of the plants we hermies however it was the best most Stable Thai I have seen with Pheno's finishing in 13 weeks , Barneys well that is a slimy conversation I cant say that I was not warned by guys from HT magazine .
Before I began working with Derry all his strains were just rebranded seeds from Nirvana , after the clones were taken followed by the bust that Landed 2 of my guys in Jail , new strains began coming out Violator kush = Charles kush , eight ball kush = Bubba x King , Cherry berry was just Cherry berry LOL Senior Garcia = Dr grinspoon apple pie = Acapulco gold , My g13 x haze was used not the Dutch version , Night shade = reeferman hash plant #3 , Amnesia lemon = Love potion #1 , utopia haze = Lambada , Honey bee is Nigerian x Love potion
Many of these were clones others were seeds i was sharing with one of his growers in Uctrect .
Its all history now , bottom line was he got angry because I sold product to Grey Area coffee shop that he did not have $ to buy .
Weird guy used to sit there all coked up drinking beer and tell me how fucking great he was , seriously he would say Charlie boy do you know how fucking smart I am , haha
Charles