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Actually I don't know what I got. My Legends Ultimate Indica ran 7-8 weeks and the Dr Atomics Thai-Lights ran 10-12 weeks. I went and crossed them to make Ultimate Thai so I'm hoping they are a 8 week strain.
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I love this stage of the grow myself. The anticipation can be life altering LOL. Keep it green friend. 
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Hey Bongdaddy and Stupidboy.
Nice to see you guys hanging around the Lodge where all the action is happinging.
My girls are in week 6 now. This is when they plump up like Ballpark Franks. Yum-Yum. I got hotdogs on the brain cause that's what I had for supper off the Q tonight.
Here's Anna with the big towering cola...
Here's Charlene with a pair of loaded guns...
I also have a little clone of Charlene that I stuck in the backyard.
I picked up some soil and a few tomato plants to make a little stealth garden.
Nice to see you guys hanging around the Lodge where all the action is happinging.
My girls are in week 6 now. This is when they plump up like Ballpark Franks. Yum-Yum. I got hotdogs on the brain cause that's what I had for supper off the Q tonight.
Here's Anna with the big towering cola...
Here's Charlene with a pair of loaded guns...
I also have a little clone of Charlene that I stuck in the backyard.
I picked up some soil and a few tomato plants to make a little stealth garden.
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Hey Bongdaddy and Stupidboy. Thanks for keeping me company on this grow. I don't know if you ever get completely dialed in but I'm sure happy with the way this grow is progressing. I made a big lighting change from 4x42 CFL to the 150 HPS with 2x42 CFL bonus lights and I'm runnng the Ultimate Thai cross for the first time.
Here's a peek at the girls at day 40. The were asking for a drink so I just gave them some plain water and checked the runoff pH at 6.7.
They are still taking up nutes and show no signs of def's eventhough I had dropped the feeding down to 800ppm on the last watering. The growth has visibly slowed down.
For the new growers in the Lodge, knowing the difference between Soil and Hydro will make a world of difference in your grows.
With Hydro you make up a solution and that's exactly what the plant needs right now and will tell you very quickly.
With Soil, the nutes are buffered, think of it like packing a lunch for tomorrow. In early flowering you're packing the lunch and building up a storehouse of nutes. The bigger the pot size, the larger the lunchpail.
Right now, my plants need a solution somewhere between 800 and 300 ppms. If I was doing Hydro, I'd be making up that solution. With soil, I want to see a runoff that corresponds to something in that range.
I've reached the decision point now and will be running plain water from this point on.
Here's my feeding schedule that I've been following. I made one goof up and gave them an extra feeding with Big Bud in week 5 where I should have been running straight Sensi.
Charlene wanted a bit more N at that time and told me off by showing slight N defs in a few lower fans. This is a good reason not to chop fan leaves off because they are your early warning devices,
Here's a peek at the girls at day 40. The were asking for a drink so I just gave them some plain water and checked the runoff pH at 6.7.
They are still taking up nutes and show no signs of def's eventhough I had dropped the feeding down to 800ppm on the last watering. The growth has visibly slowed down.
For the new growers in the Lodge, knowing the difference between Soil and Hydro will make a world of difference in your grows.
With Hydro you make up a solution and that's exactly what the plant needs right now and will tell you very quickly.
With Soil, the nutes are buffered, think of it like packing a lunch for tomorrow. In early flowering you're packing the lunch and building up a storehouse of nutes. The bigger the pot size, the larger the lunchpail.
Right now, my plants need a solution somewhere between 800 and 300 ppms. If I was doing Hydro, I'd be making up that solution. With soil, I want to see a runoff that corresponds to something in that range.
I've reached the decision point now and will be running plain water from this point on.
Here's my feeding schedule that I've been following. I made one goof up and gave them an extra feeding with Big Bud in week 5 where I should have been running straight Sensi.
Charlene wanted a bit more N at that time and told me off by showing slight N defs in a few lower fans. This is a good reason not to chop fan leaves off because they are your early warning devices,
BongDaddy
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AMEN! I only have a couple of grows under my belt, but that's one thing I learned early on - the importance of fan leaves. They indicate early trouble, they feed the rest of the plant if you've neglected to provide something, and they're the powerhouse for many of the plant's functions. I never remove them, or even parts of them, if I can help it.
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Here's Anna and Charlene at Week 7 day 44. They are bulking up nicely and don't seem to have missed the last feeding. I'm hoping there is enough built up nute reserves in the soil to carry them on. Funny thing they are just showing a bit of tip burn on the mid fan leaves. It's probably a good thing I pulled the nutes back.
Hey Bongdaddy, I always kept all the fans on and just started selectively pruning on the last couple of grows. This grow I took off most of the top fans on the buds and any nuisance ones as well. I believe they are important to the plant but not if they are covering up a bud or interfere with the next plant.
Hey Bongdaddy, I always kept all the fans on and just started selectively pruning on the last couple of grows. This grow I took off most of the top fans on the buds and any nuisance ones as well. I believe they are important to the plant but not if they are covering up a bud or interfere with the next plant.
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Tip burn at the top of the plant is caused by either overfeeding or high temperatures. Every time I check my plants I look at the top tips for burning. We are increasing nutrient concentration throughout most of the grow and nutrients tend to build up in soil grows. On top of that the plant slows down in late flowering. If you're fairly well dialed in, it happens slowly enough to correct it easily.
I look to the bottom leaves for signs of deficiencies. Nitrogen and Magnesium are the easiest to spot and are more common in vegetative growth and during the stretch in early flowering. Calcium and Magnesium are usually the first to get locked out by pH problems.
Phosphorous and Potassium show up more in late flowering.
The one that fools most new growers is deficiencies caused by overwatering. Roots grow to find sources of water not to find sources of food. When you water small plants daily or stick them in an oversized pot or have soil that holds too much water, the roots don't have to grow very much to supply the plant with water. Underdeveloped roots mean a starved plant that will show deficiencies. Most newbies will see the deficiency and correct by overfeeding and overwatering so the plant will show both deficiences and tip burn at the same time.
The other variation that is common is that overfeeding causes both tip burn and lockouts. The new grower will see the deficiences and treats by overfeeding. He misses seeing the tip burn ends up with a severe case of nute burn and worse deficiencies.
I look to the bottom leaves for signs of deficiencies. Nitrogen and Magnesium are the easiest to spot and are more common in vegetative growth and during the stretch in early flowering. Calcium and Magnesium are usually the first to get locked out by pH problems.
Phosphorous and Potassium show up more in late flowering.
The one that fools most new growers is deficiencies caused by overwatering. Roots grow to find sources of water not to find sources of food. When you water small plants daily or stick them in an oversized pot or have soil that holds too much water, the roots don't have to grow very much to supply the plant with water. Underdeveloped roots mean a starved plant that will show deficiencies. Most newbies will see the deficiency and correct by overfeeding and overwatering so the plant will show both deficiences and tip burn at the same time.
The other variation that is common is that overfeeding causes both tip burn and lockouts. The new grower will see the deficiences and treats by overfeeding. He misses seeing the tip burn ends up with a severe case of nute burn and worse deficiencies.
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wsup RED ur ladies r looking great. 
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Thanks Cheesie!!!
It's been a busy week for me. I've been getting all my yardwork done and getting my trailer ready to go camping this weekend. Unfortunately my awning broke and I'm taking it in to the dealer to see if they can fix me up.
My plants are just running on water now and can go 3-4 days in between fillups. Sadly I'm am dry at this time and my spring grow last year was done and dried by now so I had some fine pipeweed for around the campfire. Oh well got lot's of beer.
I've found a nice little tip on one of the how to grow fabulous weed threads. Try tasting the stems of the fan leaves when you trim them off. My stems were tasting bitter in veg and early flower when I was pouring the nutes to the plants. I can tell now in late flowering they are sweet. It doesn't look like I've got any nute buildup on this run.
It's been a busy week for me. I've been getting all my yardwork done and getting my trailer ready to go camping this weekend. Unfortunately my awning broke and I'm taking it in to the dealer to see if they can fix me up.
My plants are just running on water now and can go 3-4 days in between fillups. Sadly I'm am dry at this time and my spring grow last year was done and dried by now so I had some fine pipeweed for around the campfire. Oh well got lot's of beer.
I've found a nice little tip on one of the how to grow fabulous weed threads. Try tasting the stems of the fan leaves when you trim them off. My stems were tasting bitter in veg and early flower when I was pouring the nutes to the plants. I can tell now in late flowering they are sweet. It doesn't look like I've got any nute buildup on this run.
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So is that to say it's ok if they're bitter until late flower, or using that method should one look for sweetness all the way through the life cycle?
I find "holistic" methods such as this to be very interesting. It makes me feel like I'm more in tune with the plant or something. I have a pretty good sniffer so I've been smelling my plants closely every day, trying to see if there are different scents that can tip me off to specific information as well.
For most of my current grow I've noticed kind of a carrion smell on most of the girls. Since I just learned recently that I've been severely underfeeding them, I'm wondering if there's a correlation. I started using better nutes (PBP) in the last couple of weeks and I'm starting to notice a much sweeter smell coming on. I'm not sure if that's because the girls are a bit happier, or if it's just because they're getting closer to being ripe. I may not know until I get one or two full cycles in with better fed plants.
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I just got back from my 3 day camping trip in one of the lovely provincial parks along the shore of Lake Superior. Didn't catch the weather this weekend but that's June for ya. Managed to have a campfire on Friday night but it rained all day and night Saturday. I was hoping to get an all day hike in up to some waterfalls that are gorgeous. I did half the hike last year with my nephew and made it to a lookout site on top of a mountain with a view overlooking Superior. Oh well there's always next time. Wouldn't you know the sun came out just as I was leaving and it's a lovely here in town.
Hey Bongdaddy, I'm new to leaf tasting but it sure makes sense that you don't want to taste fertilizer buildup at any time in the grow. I know there is a big margin between too much and too little. If you can ride the sweet spot, the plants just grow themselves.
I know Disco diagnosed your plants as Mg deficient. That's a common problem but not necessarily related to the brand or amount of nutes being used. See most people have hard water which means there is a bunch of dissolved minerals in the water, mostly Magnesium and Calcium salts. The nute manufacturers don't put in any or very little of these minerals in their basic nute formulas. You will find Magnesium added to Bloom boosters. This is why Dolomite Lime or a Cal-Mag suppliment is necessary. Also there's only a few plants that I know of that like lots of Magnesium, Cannabis and Tomatoes and probably Peppers.
There was zero smell in the house when I came home. I can smell it now that I've opened up the growbox and let some dank late flowering sweetness out. I have found that the plants don't smell right after a watering but stink when they are happy. If you really want to make them fragrant, water with 1 tbsp of mollasses per gallon of water. I haven't used mollasses on this grow because I'm trying a minumum nute trial and I'm not sure if the mollasses caused some of the buildups on the last grow.
Hey Bongdaddy, I'm new to leaf tasting but it sure makes sense that you don't want to taste fertilizer buildup at any time in the grow. I know there is a big margin between too much and too little. If you can ride the sweet spot, the plants just grow themselves.
I know Disco diagnosed your plants as Mg deficient. That's a common problem but not necessarily related to the brand or amount of nutes being used. See most people have hard water which means there is a bunch of dissolved minerals in the water, mostly Magnesium and Calcium salts. The nute manufacturers don't put in any or very little of these minerals in their basic nute formulas. You will find Magnesium added to Bloom boosters. This is why Dolomite Lime or a Cal-Mag suppliment is necessary. Also there's only a few plants that I know of that like lots of Magnesium, Cannabis and Tomatoes and probably Peppers.
There was zero smell in the house when I came home. I can smell it now that I've opened up the growbox and let some dank late flowering sweetness out. I have found that the plants don't smell right after a watering but stink when they are happy. If you really want to make them fragrant, water with 1 tbsp of mollasses per gallon of water. I haven't used mollasses on this grow because I'm trying a minumum nute trial and I'm not sure if the mollasses caused some of the buildups on the last grow.
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Sounds like you had a beautiful spot for camping, too bad about the weather. But like you said, that's June for ya. I've been to lots of different corners of the country, but where you are is one place that I haven't seen much of. I'd like to spend time exploring it some time. Let me know if you provide guide services lol
When are you considering chopping your girls? I know ours are only a couple of days apart but I can't remember who is slightly further along. Today is day 50 for my girls and they're all indicas or indica dominant, so probably not much more than a week or so for me. It all depends on the trichs. I'm looking for at least 25% amber. My wife has MS and the body stone and heavy indica effects seem to help her symptoms the most.
When are you considering chopping your girls? I know ours are only a couple of days apart but I can't remember who is slightly further along. Today is day 50 for my girls and they're all indicas or indica dominant, so probably not much more than a week or so for me. It all depends on the trichs. I'm looking for at least 25% amber. My wife has MS and the body stone and heavy indica effects seem to help her symptoms the most.
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Here's my girls tonight....
This is Anna with the big cola
Here's a bit better look at the big cola..
This is Charlene
I took this pic using a flash to make the trichomes stand out.
She's starting to get frosty!!!
This is Anna with the big cola
Here's a bit better look at the big cola..
This is Charlene
I took this pic using a flash to make the trichomes stand out.
She's starting to get frosty!!!
Keep it green. 
Hey Red, 
The gals are looking great. I think they like it there at the lodge.
Keep up the good work.
Sarge
The gals are looking great. I think they like it there at the lodge.
Keep up the good work.
Sarge
I concur. Beauties.
Beauties.
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Hey Disco Sarge and Stu-Boy, thanks for the kind words and keeping some life in the lodge. The girls are still going strong. It's week 8 day 50 of flowering. They are slowing down and took an extra day on the watering cycle. The calyxes on Anna are beginning to turn brown.
This is Anna. When I move her around the cola's sway around in every direction. Like a girl with bit tits and no bra. Woohoo!
Charlene is still chugging away. Not as top heavy as Anna but a bit more frosty.
This is Anna. When I move her around the cola's sway around in every direction. Like a girl with bit tits and no bra. Woohoo!
Charlene is still chugging away. Not as top heavy as Anna but a bit more frosty.
