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greenmatter
LSD is a strain buddy. that was in the ballpark for the sig i was looking for. won't be long now
raising and lowering ph
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LSD is a strain buddy. that was in the ballpark for the sig i was looking for. won't be long now
ganjah shaman
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its simple by putting strawberry juice in you solution,you are causing the plant to absorb the strawberriesterpenoid,since it is already made the plant asimulates it very fast,it takes it up through the waterand enhances the smell of your weed,this is called genetic modification and the cool thing about it is that its organic,its kind of like the borg in your star trek movies.lol.
ganjah shaman
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it dosnt look like you are talking about a strain to me bro,like i said dumb shit,not the lsd thats good shit
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Mitakoye Oyasin
Hmmmm, I'm no scientist but I have used a lot of lemon juice and my lemon skunk smelled realy lemony but I grew other strains at the same time and they didn't taste or smell lemony in the end, but it is an interesting concept and the fruit juice cant be anything but good, full of carbs and great for ph down and it sure does smell good, if it passes the smell on to the plant I don't know but mabee it could enhance the smell of a plant that was already predispositioned to smell that way.
Hell I dont know that either, but Id only use enough to balance my solution as a ph down I think. Just not sure what all nutes Id be adding with that biological fruit breakdown, but one thing about it is it is deffinatly organic. I think I will start using some grape juice on this realy purple grape smelling strain Im working for ph down see if it smells any stronger noticably. Using fruit juices is nothing new to me as a ph down but Ive never used it as like a carbo load type thing but I bet itd work good for that if u used a realy sweet juice like strawberries. Don't know that the smell would change but it might swell up real good.
Hell I dont know that either, but Id only use enough to balance my solution as a ph down I think. Just not sure what all nutes Id be adding with that biological fruit breakdown, but one thing about it is it is deffinatly organic. I think I will start using some grape juice on this realy purple grape smelling strain Im working for ph down see if it smells any stronger noticably. Using fruit juices is nothing new to me as a ph down but Ive never used it as like a carbo load type thing but I bet itd work good for that if u used a realy sweet juice like strawberries. Don't know that the smell would change but it might swell up real good.
ganjah shaman
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you better watch it mo these guys are vicious if it isnt written on the 10 commandments of growing they cant relate.its believed that the reason plants come up with different scents are because they absorbed the particular dna over a period of time (evolution) and that external dna becomes part of its genetic make up,if you are growing a fruity strain then adding that particular scent through the plants natural process of asimulation,it will enhance the taste and smell, for a strain that dont smell it will take several grow seasons to get it to adapt the terpenoids into its genetic makup,it can still make your plant smell,but not through propagation
ganjah shaman
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the reason why your lemony smelled so lemony was because the terpenoids are the same and the plant was able to asimulate them easier
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greenmatter
o.k. ganja you win or at least outlasted me. your posting stuff you posted before and you still have a ph problem. if strawberry juice was the answer to growing wicked ass tasty weed people like disco would be telling you how to grow them. the organics guys would be all over it. your original post was a ph issue. are you having them because your dumping juice on your plants? it has been an interesting evening to say the least but i got to much cool stuff to read and i need some sleep. you can shorten your learning curve if you read stickys and listen. also i may very well be a dumbass, but more than one of the guys who knows his stuff was telling you you were wrong and you kept going. erase what the growstore guy told you, stop googleing stupid shit and read everything you can. maybe after that you can talk disco into taking down your memorial.
Ive heard of threading the stem with a wick like fine cotton, then placing a vessel of various fruit juice extracts higher that the entry point of the wick. Place the wick in the juice & it naturally enters the plant through the stem, enhancing the flavour of the bud. Never tried it, but hear it works. Im not sure id attemp to fill my res with fruit juice extract of any type. You wouldnt be able to get enough in there to make it worth doing without causing problems imo. Always wanted to give the wick thing a go though.
ganjah shaman
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i would much rather accomplish this by allowing the plant to extract the terpenoids through its natural metabolic process.Besides ive never heard of this,who knows.
Doesnt happen through the roots does it? i for one wouldnt go dumping essence in my Res, just asking for problems! Plants produce terps, they dont extract them through metabolic process, they are produced.
If you would rather do it by natural means, why dump friut juice into your Res, that aint natural is it? You sugested it!
Nor is threading the stem like ive sugested,that tec is documented here n there & i believe it does enhance flavour, but like i said ive never tried it! maybe someone who has can chime in, im sure a few on IC have done it!
Best of Luck to ya!
If you would rather do it by natural means, why dump friut juice into your Res, that aint natural is it? You sugested it!
Nor is threading the stem like ive sugested,that tec is documented here n there & i believe it does enhance flavour, but like i said ive never tried it! maybe someone who has can chime in, im sure a few on IC have done it!
Best of Luck to ya!
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ganjah shaman
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sorry bro ive got to say you are wrong on that score,are studies prove that the plant does absorb carbon through it leaves,and through its roots,even the stem.The terpenoids do not break down before they are taken in by the plant.So ya these plants do obsrb terpenoids through there root system,they also absorb carbon through there leaves,a terpenoid is a carbon compund.
gs, the info you've cited supports production, not absorption.
ganjah shaman
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to address dog shit,cat piss and sour d.All i can do is tell you what the people who lay claim to these strains say.Dog shit:the reason it got its name is because the Mendocino guys who grew it dint have any fert so they used dog shit,what happened it made there plants smell like dog shit,they weren't trying to make it smell that way its just a natural by-product.As for cat piss:these guys told me that they were having trouble with dear and rabbits eating there crop,so they went and bought cougar piss and used it when they watered because the scent drives away dear and such.Again they were not trying to make there pot smell like cat piss it was a natural by-product.As for sour diesel,the guy i talked to has a very different story as to its origin,apparently these guys were gorilla growing,and they had there set up berried underground in 2 train cars,they didnt want there exhaust noticed so they piped it back into there grow room the sour carbon smell was in there exhaust and no matter how crude it might sound they were feeding there plants carbon.Terpenoids are carbon.
oranges:it is believed that marijuana is primordial that it was around before oranges in the evolutionary chain,be that as it may,but for a cannabis plant to smell like oranges it had to obtain that dna from oranges somewhere in its evolution
oranges:it is believed that marijuana is primordial that it was around before oranges in the evolutionary chain,be that as it may,but for a cannabis plant to smell like oranges it had to obtain that dna from oranges somewhere in its evolution
more crap
More like diarrhea.
ganjah shaman
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here is a link to some pretty cool info.
http://boards.cannabis.com/advanced-techniques/53141-how-terpenoids-formed-cannabis.html
http://boards.cannabis.com/advanced-techniques/53141-how-terpenoids-formed-cannabis.html
ganjah shaman
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all this stuff is common knowledge,the science has been around for years now,application is through carbon interaction,weather its by root or by air,all you cats can do is resort to petty name calling,you got know science and that tells me you got no education,which tells me your ignorant.whatever like i said you cant disprove me and i have given you more than enough proof on my end.Instead of acting like you know everything why don't you realize that you don't and get an education,go to school pot heads
ganjah shaman
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here is some more
A headspace air-sampling experiment was performed in the laboratory to determine the identity and concentrations of monoterpene hydrocarbons that could be attained in the vapor phase surrounding single-leaf pinyon pine (Pinus monophylla Torr. & Frem.) understory litter using controlled air collection conditions at a simulated field temperature of 37.8°C. The total monoterpene hydrocarbon content in 21 sequential samples of air collected from a sealed glass carboy packed with 1.44 kg of single-leaf pinyon litter equivalent to a bulk density of 0.15 g/cm3 averaged 3.56 ± 1.04 mg/liter. The monoterpenesagr-pinene and camphene were present in the vapor phase at the highest concentrations, averaging 2.40±0.64 and 0.68±0.22 mg/ liter, respectively. Myrcene,beta-pinene, 3-carene,beta-phellandrene, andgamma-terpinene were all present at average concentrations below 0.30 mg/liter. The first two traps of the sequential air samples yielded the highest concentrations for the monoterpene hydrocarbons; however, the average total levels were relatively stable throughout the remaining 19 traps. Therefore, the data indicate that these hydrocarbons volatilize from the source pinyon litter and maintain an equilibrium in the vapor phase. Although this analysis was conducted using an artificial system, combined with results from our previous studies, mounting evidence indicates that monoterpene hydrocarbons present in the vapor phase of the single-leaf pinyon understory may be toxic to a variety of native plant species and thus further implicates allelopathy as a significant contributor to the observed patterning of associated vegetation in these forests.
Key words Allelopathy - phytotoxicity - vapor phase - monoterpene - single-leaf pinyon pine - Pinus monophylla - volatile hydrocarbons - pinyon litter - headspace analysis
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this is about how a plant can absorb scent through the air
A headspace air-sampling experiment was performed in the laboratory to determine the identity and concentrations of monoterpene hydrocarbons that could be attained in the vapor phase surrounding single-leaf pinyon pine (Pinus monophylla Torr. & Frem.) understory litter using controlled air collection conditions at a simulated field temperature of 37.8°C. The total monoterpene hydrocarbon content in 21 sequential samples of air collected from a sealed glass carboy packed with 1.44 kg of single-leaf pinyon litter equivalent to a bulk density of 0.15 g/cm3 averaged 3.56 ± 1.04 mg/liter. The monoterpenesagr-pinene and camphene were present in the vapor phase at the highest concentrations, averaging 2.40±0.64 and 0.68±0.22 mg/ liter, respectively. Myrcene,beta-pinene, 3-carene,beta-phellandrene, andgamma-terpinene were all present at average concentrations below 0.30 mg/liter. The first two traps of the sequential air samples yielded the highest concentrations for the monoterpene hydrocarbons; however, the average total levels were relatively stable throughout the remaining 19 traps. Therefore, the data indicate that these hydrocarbons volatilize from the source pinyon litter and maintain an equilibrium in the vapor phase. Although this analysis was conducted using an artificial system, combined with results from our previous studies, mounting evidence indicates that monoterpene hydrocarbons present in the vapor phase of the single-leaf pinyon understory may be toxic to a variety of native plant species and thus further implicates allelopathy as a significant contributor to the observed patterning of associated vegetation in these forests.
Key words Allelopathy - phytotoxicity - vapor phase - monoterpene - single-leaf pinyon pine - Pinus monophylla - volatile hydrocarbons - pinyon litter - headspace analysis
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this is about how a plant can absorb scent through the air
Yes, GS. We are the stoners that need education.
Your statement below illustrates that. Were you a technical writer before you quit your "day job" to grow 13 lbs under 2,000 watts?
Nowhere in your link to terpenoids is there information on fruit juice or cat piss adding to the terpenes in cannabis. Did I miss something?
I'll bet you agree with that idiot Karmaxul in that thread you linked.
Your statement below illustrates that. Were you a technical writer before you quit your "day job" to grow 13 lbs under 2,000 watts?
Nowhere in your link to terpenoids is there information on fruit juice or cat piss adding to the terpenes in cannabis. Did I miss something?
I'll bet you agree with that idiot Karmaxul in that thread you linked.
ganjah shaman
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scrogerman
our aplications are only through the soil medium,this puts the terpenoids in the soil so the roots can get at them,as a by product terpenoids are then released in the air as well and in turn absorbed by the leaf,cannabis has the unique ability to absorb terpenoids from its surroundings weather through soil or air.Im not saying that these guys dont know how to grow pot,but they are totally ignorant of this science.There responses show clearly that they dont have any data to disprove what im saying and this is in fact because there is none.Thats why i can claim on the world wide web that i am right.
our aplications are only through the soil medium,this puts the terpenoids in the soil so the roots can get at them,as a by product terpenoids are then released in the air as well and in turn absorbed by the leaf,cannabis has the unique ability to absorb terpenoids from its surroundings weather through soil or air.Im not saying that these guys dont know how to grow pot,but they are totally ignorant of this science.There responses show clearly that they dont have any data to disprove what im saying and this is in fact because there is none.Thats why i can claim on the world wide web that i am right.
