Rain water and tap water discussion

[Creeperpark]

Study finds that rainwater no longer safe to drink anywhere on Earth

A recent study published in the journal "Environmental Science and Technology" found rainwater is no longer safe to drink anywhere on Earth.

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There's a big difference between drinking rainwater and using it in the garden. Think about all the farm crops that get rained on in Spring and Summer and Fall..

 

[moose eater]

There's a big difference between drinking rainwater and using it in the garden. Think about all the farm crops that get rained on in Spring and Summer and Fall..

I agree, but also considered that many plants are categorized as 'accumulators', meaning they're taking in the minerals that are in the H2O and retaining a greater amount of those minerals that are in the water, and then there's the nature of the newer-to-the-scene chemicals like PFAS, now being considered a 'forever chemical' even when not specifically referencing accumulators/plants.

I figure we're now in a place that properly processed well or community water is apt to be safer than rainwater. But even with that, they're finding substances that aren't removed by the processing of the treated H2O.

Just a point to consider.

 

[Three Berries]

Got a good rain today. Flushed the barrels for 30 minutes then filled.

 

[Cerathule]

I agree, but also consioered that many plants are categorized as 'accumulators', meaning they're taking in the minerals that are in the H2O and retaining a greater amount of those minerals that are in the water, and then there's the nature of the newer-to-the-scene chemicals like PFAS, now being considered a 'forever chemical' even when not specifically referencing accumulators/plants.

I figure we're now in a place that properly processed well or community water is apt to be safer than rainwater. But even with that, they're finding substances that aren't removed by the processing of the treated H2O.

Just a point to consider.

Yes and we will pollute the planet even more as corrosion is simply affecting everything. I'm using RO 4-step for my personal water, although it also takes the goodies away.
Many plants try to protect their floral tissue by trying to let toxics accumulate in the root, stem or leaf. Just away from what needs to live next year. But it doesn't work always like this, so you are still right that generally, toxics shouldn't be there in the first place.

 

[Creeperpark]

NO FLUSHING with rain water!!! Nothing but pure rainwater without anything else. These plants are living on what's stored in the roots and leaves. The leaves are releasing mobile nutrients and then lose their colors. I still have 10 to 15 days left. Here's resent photos,

 

[exploziv]

Looking great there!

 

[Cerathule]

Nice sidelights! That's where the fluoros still shine (pun intented)

 

[Creeperpark]

Nice sidelights! That's where the fluoros still shine (pun intented)

Yes, its amazing how well the two 130-watt LEDs put out the light. However below in the canopy, it was a little shaded. So I added a 120-watt T8 shop light on the side. The whole setup is only 380 watts in total. I've never used this small amount of watts in Summer. These lights run cool and bright enough to get strong sticky buds in Summer. I'm impressed because $200 was the total cost for the lights.

 

[xet]

NO FLUSHING with rain water!!! Nothing but pure rainwater without anything else. These plants are living on what's stored in the roots and leaves. The leaves are releasing mobile nutrients and then lose their colors. I still have 10 to 15 days left. Here's resent photos,
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Curious - what is your motivation for flushing when running organic soil? Do you know that flushing with organic soil is not only unnecessary but a critical error in the most crucial final stages which lessens your oil yield and overall entourage effect from the medicine? Really nice plants though!

 

[xet]

Yes, its amazing how well the two 130-watt LEDs put out the light.

That is all? Haha! Wow! LED's have improved so much over the past 3-4 years. i was reviewing old figures from only 2 years ago and LED manufacturers were boasting 1.5umol/j and now it is 2.9umol/j in 2022!! Wwow, what will it be in 2 more years?? Nice work

 

[Creeperpark]

Curious - what is your motivation for flushing when running organic soil? Do you know that flushing with organic soil is not only unnecessary but a critical error in the most crucial final stages which lessens your oil yield and overall entourage effect from the medicine? Really nice plants though!

I don't flush any soil anytime because I'm against it. Just using pure rainwater for the last two weeks is all that's really necessary.

 

[xet]

I don't flush any soil anytime because I'm against it. Just using pure rainwater for the last two weeks is all that's really necessary.

Right on, I can appreciate that. I would like a watered down humic tea because incoming fall/winter rains would have those humic acids running on the ground too

 

[Creeperpark]

At the end of flowering, rainwater helps bring out the best resin from a plant. Here are todays

 

[Creeperpark]

I take offense when someone talks badly about using clean rainwater. The reason is that I've tested it a thousand times indoors and outdoors. Rainwater is basically distilled water raised from the ground via heated vapor. When the heated vapor gets heavy then the cooling condenses back into water and falls back to the ground. When water travels in the atmosphere it may pick up some pollution but, when it is added to the soil, the soil filters it.

 

[Creeperpark]

When the water hits the soil with only 4 ppm there's no impurity accumulation in the soil compared to tap water. Every time one uses Tap water the high ppm is filtered in the soil and the ppm stays in the soil accumulating. When tap water ppm accumulates in the soil the high ppm will block good nutrients and block receptor sites and look like deficiencies.

 

[Creeperpark]

I'm taking them in a few days because 60 days is here. These are 60day Indica flowers. I have only given them pure rainwater for the last couple of weeks. These plants are basically flushed because the purity of the rainwater has dissolved all the usable stuff in the soil. The plants have taken everything available in the soil and started taking nutrients from their own leaves. I can see by leaf color when a plant is flushed so to speak.

 

[Creeperpark]

Here are the rainwater flowers.

 

[exploziv]

I totally agree, man!
Even if rain is guaranteed to contain contaminants, saying it's bad for plants is stupid. I mean, it contains them nasties, but there is also no better alternative out there if you look at teh big picture. I do agree we could grow weed with R/O water and consider it being the purest harvest ever (we would also need mad HEPA filtering as well), but then when eating comercial food or we eat same kind of contaminats from water of soil. Even breathing in a polluted city is the same. Saying there is pollution in rainwater without taking into account pollution is there because it's all around us anyway, to me, seems like incomplete agenda BS, or plain stupid. Even if you use best comercial compost, it will still contain some of the contaminants put there by the air and water it been exposed to. Ofc you can water that with R/O water and feel super good about it, but are you growing a cleaner harvest? or it's just feeling like you do?
Also, for many of us this is moot point, making if a even funnier problem, since we burn our harvests and inhale the smoke.

 

[Creeperpark]

I'm surprised how well these two 130-watt LEDs performed. I've never used anything under 400 watts before now. So easy to keep the room cool with low wattage lighting. Most years past, I never could grow indoors in the Summer because of excess heat. This is first for me, however, it's time to bump up the wattage for Winter and grow some bigger plants.

 

[blondie]

Nice plants creepy. My plants are coming along. My cbd is quite nice. I’m thinking chop any day now.