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qwiso from bubble hash

Lazyman

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I disagree about using warm solvents on trim, it solubilizes chlorophyll so easily your mix will turn out very green.

I've taken the solvent wash and put it into a 2G jar in the freezer, after a few days a 1/8" layer of white plant waxes settled to the bottom. if you stir it this will never occur. I siphoned off the top layer, and then the bottom layer and dried them separately. The bottom layer had a slightly different (almost crumbly) texture when scraped up, but otherwise the product smoked similarly and had similar effects. In all i decided it wasn't worth removing such a tiny amount of waxes for the effort, so now I just wash it and dry it.

Cold alcohol and acetones both dissolve resin heads in seconds, any more than a couple minutes and you're just wasting your time. It's not worth picking up tons of chlorophyll to speed up the process, when the whole point is to preserve purity, right?
 

jump117

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I never proposed using warm solvent on trim or buds, it is against the common sense,

in contrast to buds or trim, hash is the substance of a high density and contains a very little chlorophyll,

doing extraction from hash I was failed with cold solvent and was succeed with hot.
 

miaumiau

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you are right, ok then next time i just :

- use very cold isoprophyl alcohol
- soak only for 3 minutes and not overnight

(and no need for putting the solvent in the freezer after dissolving,
i will directly put it through the filter, as you told...)


i tell you when i do my outdoor run...


...:thank you:
 

Lazyman

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Yep sounds about right, if you're dissolving hash I would break it into tiny pieces or even grind it up first, the crap will still get caught in the filters, but it will dissolve better. I think you will be surprised at the amount of crap that was in your hash!
 

miaumiau

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yeah...maybe jump117 is right, its about making qwiso from bubble,...and i always had good success with room temperature iso.

but you know what? i just do another test...

...same base material, one time with very cold, one time with warm iso! i use same soaking time then and then i compare and we see whats better :blowbubbles:

(btw , on the pictures on previous page, i used a grinder to make powder from the bubble, AND i was surprised what was left over, but was not the best bubble as i told ....)
 

jump117

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are you going to make bubble-hash first and after that make qwiso from bubble hash?:)

the faster way is quick alco wash on fresh undried plant matter, resulting with amber quality product.
 

Lazyman

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I dunno man, I've made ISO from fresh (frozen trim and dried/cured frozeon trim, and the frozen trim turned the solvent green almost instantly, way too much chlorophyll. If it's green its being contaminated!
 

Lazyman

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Oh and if the end goal is to get oil, I would agree that making bubble first is a waste of time, bubble isn't a perfect extraction process, but filtered solvents pretty much ARE. Why start with a contaminated and less-than-perfect extraction and extract from that? Start with the plant matter and do a solvent extraction with that instead, save time and money and get a much better yield.
 

miaumiau

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i make bubble first....and i have a look on that i dry it in a powdery form, not as a chunk(s)....so that i dont have to use a grinder next time ;-)



hmm, i know that i could use fresh buds, but firstly its already dry(ing), and secondly i wanted to avoid using the bud/trim because i think that there is some kind of funghi on/in my outdoor plants...some had a slightly form of powdery mildew (really not that bad, nearly nothing, hehe), and when i harvested them, the outer skin was definitely disordered from something as a funghi(m plants had the leaf spot disease)...was nothing in the bud, but this was the reason i just didnt want to use the "green", and prior to that extract only the resin ...

but i think it can only get better when using only the resin...and when there is no chance to dissolve any chlorophyll...hmm

(btw, end goal is only to get the qwiso )
 
if yall dont mind me asking..... why did my last run of bubble turn out so gooey/sticky? there is no way i could handle it if i let it cool to room temp. I have to leave it in freezer. By the time i get an answer to this i will be making that into qwiso im sure:thank you:
 

miaumiau

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@JohnnyHopkins


What measure size had the gooey bubble hash?
What strain did you use, indoor or outdoor?
Did you let our trim/bud dry or did you use fresh trim/bud for making it?



Maybe its some genetics thing ....or maybe the cuticle of the trichome-head was very thin.....was the herb very sticky, too?
 
Thanks for your response bud.....

the 70 bag was the goo pretty much.... I let it dry on card board overnight and then put it in the freezer for a couple weeks ( iread somewhere on here that is a fool proof way up dry/curing hash). The trim came from nirvana ice and super skunk and was fresh/frozen trim. Should i dry it longer next time before putting it in freezer? how do i get bubble hash that is easier to handle?
 

consu

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Hi there :yay:

from fugu kush's trim I made bubble hash...but I wasn't satisfied with the purity..



so I dissolved into ISO ALCOHOL..


..to became Q.W.ISO. OIL :jump:




Have a good weekend :D
 
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