Quitting pot because of paranoia

[CLePToKiD28]

Not I, but my significant other has pretty much thrown in the towel with cannabis. Shes smoked for a couple years lightly, enjoying what she refers to as the "come-up" of her high, but is weighing the factor or paranoia V.S. the positive effects. She has ADHD, and is prescribed Ritalin for her condition, which she doesn't enjoy taking so much. I'm a small time cropper for my personal medical use for insomnia and depression, and I remember at the beginning trying to find "the right strain for me" was much more difficult and time consuming than I thought it would be, but I can't help to think theres something up her alley that she could enjoy and not be uneasy over later on. I figured I'd see what my buddies here thought. Does anyone know the effects of cannabinoids with Ritalin combined, or if there are any adverse effects? Could this be causing it? We mainly smoke indica bud on the off-harvest season, mainly the local Afghani or ISS clone (definetly not the sweet skunk, seems to be a bit more sativa-ish in structure and high, but closely related to the ghani clone, guy claims its called Interstellar Star), and indica is supposed to promote the exact opposite of paranoia. I'm stoned and rambling now, but any input would be greatly appreciated by the two of us. Thanks guys.

 

[Guest]

my friend simply she smoked to much of some for real shit...most likely a haze or pure sativa...they can really fuck your world if not for you...my little brother quit grass for the same reason as your girl...she just needs a really pure indica and only a few hits...your rite everyone has a strain for them and if you love her...help her find hers like you did yours..dont have her hating the herb because of a wrong selection....peace

 

[Guest]

I just met this girl, that likes to smoke a puff just to relax, she was paranoid when in public but i may have worked her out of it in one night lol, i just kept puffing everywhere in SF and kept saying we are hard working citizens not criminals nothings guna happen

 

[CLePToKiD28]

haha god damn you cali-residents and your lenient state laws haha that made my day Slips. Thanks for the quick chime-ins, no place like home Pure indica with the right pheno could be an answer for sure. Anyone have the same paranoia problem and have a favorite strain they'd like to share? any medi-heads know about the whole amphetmine/cannabinoid combo FX? thanks again guys.

 

[HeadyPete]

1. Smoke less
2. She needs to learn how to not put her mind in that paranoid feedback loop. When it starts, she needs to tell herself it is all good. Everything is fine. It's just the weed making me feel like this and in twenty minutes it will be much less intense. Has anything happened bad to her? No, and it won't. Pot does not affect any vital functions of your body and no one has ever died from pot use.

It's mostly in her mind and a result of her lack of tolerance. It used to happen to me all the time when I started ramping up my toking from zero. I smoked before that when i was a teenager, then quit for 10 years. Now, it never happens to me, and if I did smoke some realllllllly good shit, I could stop it.

My bud is an ex heavy, now a lightweight and he told me the same shit. Also, he would toke after drinking too much and that did him in. We went fishing for a weekend, I passed it to him when he was sober, and said "one toke only", he did and said it was the best buzz he could remember. The next day in the boat he took one toke again, same result. That was LUI. I finished the rest of those doobs and many more! That's tolerance for you.

One toke, that's it. Wait half hour and she will probably be good and comfortably high for three hours.

 

[Guest]

Skunk is a good daytime high that ussally doens't leave you to paranoid or high, i used to hate puffing in public till my freind Suzie (the bay area mmj tv show lady) got me over it, all we ussed to do is drive around town puffing and joyridding while she waved to cops that where her freinds Now a days i'm much more carefull but less paranoid being high and smoking in public.

 

[Dr. Bloom]

I take Adderall (very similar to ritalin) for ADHD and in my experience these two drugs make you much more antsy, and will intensify any paranoid effect I get from weed. For example....once you have focused on the paranoia while on ADHD medication, you will have a hard time releasing it from your mind. A strong sativa would often bring up these paranoid feelings, while a very relaxing indica is less likely to.
So my advice is to give her something mainly indica, that is not overly strong, just pleasant. This is more likely to mellow her out than make her paranoid, but hey, everyone reacts differently, so it's just my

 

[Sheriff Bart]

opiates, kava kava, pedicularis flower tops, a drink or two can all help ease the paranoia in my experieinces...

 

[AmishFarmer]

Why does she have to smoke?Maybe it's not for her anymore.

 

[Truthman]

Here's a method I got off of here from someone:

"Take 500mg of vitamin C 30 min-1hr before you smoke vaporize or eat cannabis"

It seems the timing is VERY IMPORTANT in order for the vitamin C to work. You can't just take it 2-3 hours before you smoke and think it will still work.

Also, taking orange juice with the vitamin C enhances the effects. Don't ask me for any scientific articles on how or why it works but it does.

You can do a search and see if there are any threads about it.

 

[Blazin Red]

man sounds like panic attack, my girl quit smoking because of them

 

[Guest]

My younger sis, while in middle school/early high school... was on ritalin.. and she was also smoking lots of weed. It screwed with her alot. She told me herself that she became partially psychotic. She blames the ritalin mixed in with the weed. It took her awhile to kinda find some sorta mental baseline after that.

I remember years later, even after substaining from all drugs... that she told me birds were talking to her on the freeway. i mean... we talked about this... she finally said she knew it was crazy, but that was what she was experiencing.

I also took adderall and ritalin at different points when younger. wish i never ever did that...my parents were the one that helped me in on that. man that stuff is NOT needed. i'm glad i didn't pick up smoking then... cuz the interaction probably wouldn't have been good.

now my parents are really freaked out about mj... they always bring up my sister when things are talked about.... i'm so sick of them always looking down on mj, and not even caring about the fucking pharmacuetical company drugs. companies are getting BILLIONS of dollars for giving kids meth salts. wtf is WRONG WITH OUR COUNTRY.

 

[CLePToKiD28]

I don't agree with her choice of medication, but as far as her adhd goes it seems to work for her. but yeah, like blazin said its more of a panic attack thing on certain occasions where she'll withdraw and get quiet and just extremely paranoid. I'm thinking what someone said earliar, that small doses may be the key too. She doesn't want to quit smoking, she seems to love weed for what it is and everything our cultures about, but wants to find a balance to maintain her buzz and not freak out. i just bought a Volcano vape, you think the stone might be a bit more pleasant for her (assuming that u need to inhale less to get a buzz?)? I haven't had time around work to sit down and plug the sucker in but she looks promising i just found an artical on medical marijuana treating add/adhd on here, i'll have to show her this. maybe a new kind of medicine would suit her better.

 

[Yummybud]

I've gotten panick attacks in public when stoned. Think you're acting stoned and that everyone knows you're stoned and can see that you ar acting "weird".

I just remind myself that I'm just overreacting and overthinking.

I don't smoke weed usually when I go to public places I'm more of a midnight closet tocker, literally.......

 

[Guest]

Im with Yummy. I think its trippy sometimes to be high in public. I mean, it seems everyone is high on caffeine in this society. So when your high on weed, it totally clashes with the caffeine mindset.

No thats kinda just a theory, and a wild one

But... maybe not? What would it be like going out in "society" if everyone was on weed? Would you still get noided out?

CleptoKid - If I were you, try making her some food with cannabis leaves. Yes, just leaves. I just have a feeling that it might work just as good as her medication. I'm PMing you

 

[gamehaze2]

dude cleptokid i get that paronoia after smoking my cure man i got it reall bad yesterday i duno how to stop it i guess the 3 years of setiva havnt done good for me init i need to swap to indica init i duno man this shit needs to stop man im paro right now

 

[Guest]

By the way... I know I went you this message already Clepto.. but for others to see.

I did a bit of googling, and found info that some dr's do not recommend ritalin to people that might be predisposed to anxiety/social anxiety etc... because the meth salts can make it worse.

I think this applies to any stimulant, including SATIVA marijuana FLOWERS.

I mean WTF is wrong with our medical system. LOL. Its such a joke. I don't think its a coincidence that my sister and I both were on these meth salts (my dad works next to a dr. - this is how we had such easy access)... and both of us later on, after using these meth salts...started having issues with paranoia/social anxiety. This was before I even started smoking weed too.

I mean i had some fucked up systems. i couldn't even drive without having all of my mirrors turned inward so no one could see me. and that was a minor issue. I coudln't walk in the mall without feeling everyone was staring at me.

I don't think its hard to see...that common side effects of street meth users (speed) are paranoia...etc etc... probably similar issues to what you can get when you take the lower potency meths, IE ritalin. Is this not obvious! Same drugs...basically both meth salts. Ritalin is societally accepted. Lower dosages. But when you take that shit day in and day out, it can build up in the body...and cause toxicity. God knows how many kids brains are being destroyed.

Actually its funny, when I first started smoking pot I noticed that i had less issues. But its been a long road since then. I realize now that only some types of pot have the calming chemicals. The indicas have more calming chemicals. But it seems the leaves are really the easiest place to reliably get these consistently!

Because when I first started smoking, sometimes I would feel good...for a day or two afterwards even... but also sometimes it wasn't good at all. I think its related to the strain.

In jamaica the mothers give some of their children ganja tea (boiling just the LEAVES/STEMS in water)... when they know their children have a long day...and need to pay attention and sit still. so with that i think u can find an easier medical way of treating ADD through leaves. plus its way easier to grow, and use daily...

Some people in Jamaica that look down on MJ smoking, will drink ganja tea first thing in the morning everyday. I think personally, that this needs to be explored much more in america. making tea out of the leaves. Once I get going I will be doing this... and if it seems to be medicinal, to hopefully spread this knowledge far and wide so our country can grow our own, easy (no complciated setups) medicine in our backyard...to make tea to help us.

In Jamaica they consider the tea therapuetic...while they consider the smoke just for going on a mindtrip/recreational. Of course they are probably mainly smoking sativas. I know that some indica strains would be more theraputic for mental disorders than sativas.

But for someone like me...for others like me...when sativas can sometimes make you worse off... it might just be a better route to grow some plants for leaves and make that your daily medicine.

To me this seems so EASY i wonder why more medicinal users...even just people in general are not doing it!!

Oh wait... thats because marijuana is illegal and this type of information is not easy accessible!

UNTIL NOW


I'd say...get off the meth salts. i bet anything that stuff is toxic to the brain/body. stick with cannabis man.

 

[gamehaze2]

dude i duno man setiva is good but evil man im hitting some now and im paroooonoiiiddude this needs to stop i need some indica its true indica makes u unparonoid setiva makes u paroonid

 

[Sheriff Bart]

what have you got to be paranoid about?

 

[Tarkus]

All this talk of paranoia makes me wanna put on some Black Sabbath.

Or better yet, play some on guitar!!! But apartment neighbors get kinda pissed when you do that at midnight. And you can't play Sabbath quietly.