Yes, but not in short term. First there are many other older landraces still waiting to be reproduced.
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Yes, but not in short term. First there are many other older landraces still waiting to be reproduced.
george7
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Thats great
Keen to share which are these old landraces up on your priority list to reproduce?Thanks
Your posts are good read Dubi, thank you. It's interesting to learn more about region specific flower from experience breeder. Also interesting for me to see the authentic flower of the region. Would be great to visit someday Thailand to try their lanndraces, but as you say it's getting more difficult to avoid modern hybrids influences?
Good luck with your findings, I hope you gonna have fun with breeding with that genetics in the future ; )
Good luck with your findings, I hope you gonna have fun with breeding with that genetics in the future ; )
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I always wonder what the language barrier is like.
Great read, thanks for sharing Dubi!
Great read, thanks for sharing Dubi!
Moxa stick
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Hi Dubi-
As a lover of Kali Mist’s flavor and high…especially the older versions, I have read that Cambodia was a source of parentage. Any chance of hunting down these genetics on your next trip? Nothing I’ve found thru the years seems to have the same taste or effects.
As a lover of Kali Mist’s flavor and high…especially the older versions, I have read that Cambodia was a source of parentage. Any chance of hunting down these genetics on your next trip? Nothing I’ve found thru the years seems to have the same taste or effects.
And here yet another question directed at you Dubi - do you have anywhere to recommend for good smoke in the region of Khao Yai national park? Hoping to go to visit my bro and see his fruit farm and maybe see whats good around.
- do you have anywhere to recommend for good smoke in the region of Khao Yai national park? Hoping to go to visit my bro and see his fruit farm and maybe see whats good around.
RingtailCanyon
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Good job Dubi!
Thats great
Thanks
Hi @george7 I’m becoming a bit superstitious and prefer not to reveal our future projects until they’re at least completed. I can share that next year we’ll release a new landrace: a hash plnat indica from Kashmir, more info in a few weeks.
You can easily find Kali Mist expressions in classic NL/Haze hybrids. From our catalog, check out Panama A5 Haze, Killer A5 Haze, or Thai A5 Haze for something along these lines.
We have 7 different Cambodian lines waiting in our preservation fridge to be explored: 3 collected by me, 1 by a close friend, and the other 3 from donors.
And here yet another question directed at you Dubi
I’m not familiar with the region, but it looks very beautiful and peaceful
Hope you have a great time there with your brother. It’s a National Park I’d probably enjoy visiting as well. Since it seems a bit off the beaten path, you likely won’t find many cannabis shops around. If you’re heading through Bangkok first, it might be a good idea to stock up there—there are hundreds of cannabis shops in the capital, and with a bit of searching, I’m sure you’ll come across some good batches of local Thai weed.
Excellent write ups and descriptions. Thanks for all your hard work
Thanks friends, glad you enjoy the read
i took very short, raw notes and just translate it without adding much literature so it goes straight to the point.
After Phi Phi, we headed south by boat to Koh Lanta for the final stretch of our trip through Thailand.
Koh Lanta is not a very touristy island, especially during the rainy season. When we checked into the hotel in the south of Klong Khong beach, we realized we were the only guests and would have the entire hotel and service to ourselves. A lovely Thai family ran the hotel.
On the first day, I grabbed a motorbike and took the main road heading quite far north, stopping at all the coffee shops marked on the map.
First stop, Lanta International. The Thai weed looked terrible and very immature. The girl budtender was ashamed to sell it to me, but i insisted. Very poor looking uncompressed loosy, very immature with almost nothing salvageable after sifting stems and leaves. Smoked one, but it didn’t do much, practically nothing, so I discarded this batch. 3 mature seeds found.
Heading a bit further north, I found a couple of cannabis shops more run by Thais, but 'to my surprise' they didn't have Thai weed, only Farang hybrids. I even got angry to them some times, saying to them: 'Thai sativas are among best sativas in the world, and you Thai people don't do the effort to offer best Thai genetics possible, disappointing! They addressed me to a a poor woman’s house nearby with what seemed to be an illegal coffee shop.
She had two very Thai looking sativas growing in her backyard. She didn’t have Thai weed at the moment but hopped on her motorbike and returned in five minutes with Thai brick weed. It contains quite a few broken seeds, sticks, and leaves. Strong aroma of chocolate and cocoa powder, the most pronounced when opening the brick for the first time. Easily the best smelling brick among all those in Lanta. Flavor is wet herbal, woody and burnt trash, reminiscent of what i like to call 'jungle trash terpenes' from this pasrt of the world. Potency is strong and not trash like the Chiang Mai from Phi Phi or the Lanta International brick. The effect is cerebral but quickly becomes stony. Overall not very cerebral, psychedelic, or euphoric compared to others earlier in this trip. 3 mature seeds were found.
Further north, I found another shop, Weedology, that seemed fully legal, run by two girls. They were selling Thai brick weed, the second brick of the day. The girls claimed it was southern sativa from about 200 km away from Lanta. Aroma is a bit dark but not chocolatey, more like jungle and burnt trash, a terpene profile common in both Cambodia and Thailand. Flavor is burnt plastic like, a horror. I left it halfway. Effect is slightly noticeable but not worth continuing. 3 mature seeds found, but upon closer inspection at home, they were broken.
Even further north, at Tattoo Bamboo, I bought a third brick. The guy had an enormous disk of compressed Thai weed and cuts with a big knife a good chunk of brick right in front of me. Greenish brick with aromas of cured wood and chocolate, more similar to the first three Thais from Phuket. Potent, initially cerebral, although not very clear, quite stony and dirty development yet not totally physically sedative, more mentally out of bounds. No seeds.
On another day i drive to the southern part of the island and came across Happy Island Family, run by a really nice guy who told me his family had been growing their own Thai genetics for a long time. I almost arranged to visit their farm, but his phone was off next days and couldn't make it. The brick from his family
had a rich aroma of chocolate and blonde hash. Quite similar in effects to the brick from the poor woman. No seeds.
Sorry no weed pictures from Lanta batches, which were probably the less interesting from the trip.
The highlights of the trip in effects were without any doubt the Electric Lady from Phuket, Happy Butterfly from Yao Yai. Regarding terpenes it has been great to have had the chance to experience several chocolate Thais in the South. For distinct, different terps the poppy tea one from Phi Phi was the most remarkable. Fortunately i have seeds from all of them
We had to leave Thailand next day and i still had lots of bags of weed to finish, so i gave it all to the family running the hotel and they accepted it with the biggest Thai smile you can think of
Also, mushroom are also legal and stupid me i discovered only in the last part of the trip!
I bought some big white dry ones that were really potent and interesting, but the more common, smaller brownish type only made me feel dizzy.
Thailand is paradise, now even more than ever!
Koh Lanta is not a very touristy island, especially during the rainy season. When we checked into the hotel in the south of Klong Khong beach, we realized we were the only guests and would have the entire hotel and service to ourselves. A lovely Thai family ran the hotel.
On the first day, I grabbed a motorbike and took the main road heading quite far north, stopping at all the coffee shops marked on the map.
First stop, Lanta International. The Thai weed looked terrible and very immature. The girl budtender was ashamed to sell it to me, but i insisted. Very poor looking uncompressed loosy, very immature with almost nothing salvageable after sifting stems and leaves. Smoked one, but it didn’t do much, practically nothing, so I discarded this batch. 3 mature seeds found.
Heading a bit further north, I found a couple of cannabis shops more run by Thais, but 'to my surprise' they didn't have Thai weed, only Farang hybrids. I even got angry to them some times, saying to them: 'Thai sativas are among best sativas in the world, and you Thai people don't do the effort to offer best Thai genetics possible, disappointing! They addressed me to a a poor woman’s house nearby with what seemed to be an illegal coffee shop.
She had two very Thai looking sativas growing in her backyard. She didn’t have Thai weed at the moment but hopped on her motorbike and returned in five minutes with Thai brick weed. It contains quite a few broken seeds, sticks, and leaves. Strong aroma of chocolate and cocoa powder, the most pronounced when opening the brick for the first time. Easily the best smelling brick among all those in Lanta. Flavor is wet herbal, woody and burnt trash, reminiscent of what i like to call 'jungle trash terpenes' from this pasrt of the world. Potency is strong and not trash like the Chiang Mai from Phi Phi or the Lanta International brick. The effect is cerebral but quickly becomes stony. Overall not very cerebral, psychedelic, or euphoric compared to others earlier in this trip. 3 mature seeds were found.
Further north, I found another shop, Weedology, that seemed fully legal, run by two girls. They were selling Thai brick weed, the second brick of the day. The girls claimed it was southern sativa from about 200 km away from Lanta. Aroma is a bit dark but not chocolatey, more like jungle and burnt trash, a terpene profile common in both Cambodia and Thailand. Flavor is burnt plastic like, a horror. I left it halfway. Effect is slightly noticeable but not worth continuing. 3 mature seeds found, but upon closer inspection at home, they were broken.
Even further north, at Tattoo Bamboo, I bought a third brick. The guy had an enormous disk of compressed Thai weed and cuts with a big knife a good chunk of brick right in front of me. Greenish brick with aromas of cured wood and chocolate, more similar to the first three Thais from Phuket. Potent, initially cerebral, although not very clear, quite stony and dirty development yet not totally physically sedative, more mentally out of bounds. No seeds.
On another day i drive to the southern part of the island and came across Happy Island Family, run by a really nice guy who told me his family had been growing their own Thai genetics for a long time. I almost arranged to visit their farm, but his phone was off next days and couldn't make it. The brick from his family
had a rich aroma of chocolate and blonde hash. Quite similar in effects to the brick from the poor woman. No seeds.
Sorry no weed pictures from Lanta batches, which were probably the less interesting from the trip.
The highlights of the trip in effects were without any doubt the Electric Lady from Phuket, Happy Butterfly from Yao Yai. Regarding terpenes it has been great to have had the chance to experience several chocolate Thais in the South. For distinct, different terps the poppy tea one from Phi Phi was the most remarkable. Fortunately i have seeds from all of them
We had to leave Thailand next day and i still had lots of bags of weed to finish, so i gave it all to the family running the hotel and they accepted it with the biggest Thai smile you can think of
Also, mushroom are also legal and stupid me i discovered only in the last part of the trip!
I bought some big white dry ones that were really potent and interesting, but the more common, smaller brownish type only made me feel dizzy.
Thailand is paradise, now even more than ever!
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Hi @Chi13 I have renamed this Outback Haze clone to Outback Thai because is a pure Thai (no Haze in her), she is a classic fresh lemony sweet and sour Thai of electric effects without ceiling. I got the green light from Karel to work with her, and an excellent cross to Kali China called Rush of Siam will be released next year for our 20th anniversary, hopefully the Outback will be involved in more interesting upcoming projects.
@dubi I've spent a few years working on autoflower sativas. For next season, I ordered your Ethiopian, new Caledonia, and Nepal Annapurna... I'm really excited about starting those projects (I grow outdoors, so it takes a while). Anyway, the auto I'm starting with is an auto hybrid I made from a Jamaican sativa crossed with an autoflower named "Ace" from the Spanish breeder stitch of flash seeds. I've always assumed that was the name of the strain because he made it using your your stuff (at least the Thai and Haze part). So, my question is...are you familiar with that product and is it indeed an auto produced using your stuff?
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paisajedehierba
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Hello AcrylicGoblin,
from the older descriptions of Stitch (Flash Seeds Breeder) on the Flash Seeds website, which still existed at that time, I know that he used ACE genetics to some extent (such as Oldtimers Haze in his Super Auto strain "Chaze"). I'm not so sure about Flash Seeds strain "ACE". It was simply said in the old descriptions of "ACE" that Haze, Thai and Amnesia are involved in addition to Lowryder 2. Thai has brought Stitch, as he writes about the strain "Muay Thai", himself from Thailand (Pucket). In this respect, if ACE genetics should be included in the strain "ACE" at all, then perhaps regarding Haze.
from the older descriptions of Stitch (Flash Seeds Breeder) on the Flash Seeds website, which still existed at that time, I know that he used ACE genetics to some extent (such as Oldtimers Haze in his Super Auto strain "Chaze"). I'm not so sure about Flash Seeds strain "ACE". It was simply said in the old descriptions of "ACE" that Haze, Thai and Amnesia are involved in addition to Lowryder 2. Thai has brought Stitch, as he writes about the strain "Muay Thai", himself from Thailand (Pucket). In this respect, if ACE genetics should be included in the strain "ACE" at all, then perhaps regarding Haze.
paisajedehierba
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Oh, I'm just realizing that I answered in the thread "questions for Dubi... That was inattentive of me, sorry!
No worries, thanks for the response.Oh, I'm just realizing that I answered in the thread "questions for Dubi... That was inattentive of me, sorry!
