question for sam the skunkman on the original haze

[mexcurandero420]

THH from the same repro I made...n+1 in my book

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THH P1

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I'm no expert....would love to know your opinions amigos

Reminds me of the ones i grew in the 90s.

 

[MAHA KALA]

The Portuguese brought the red pepper to India. They had Goa as part of the Portuguese empire since the 16th century till 1961. Wouldn't be surprised if they brought back Indian varieties from there, but i have read from Duvall's book Cannabis, that the first drug type Cannabis that came to South America was from slaves from Angola and Congo. The indication indica didn't mean in historical point of view that it was broadleaved, but that it was from India. Don't think that the varieties from Goa, Kerala are CBD containing varieties. Sedation effect can also be caused by the terpene composition. Low in myrcene, linalool.

I see. great info again.

but wasnt it like that american pharmacy companies were growing weed for tinctures etc in Colombia from 1850 till 1937.. started with subtropical hashplant. I dont say afghan. some indian subtropical cultivar plants and it didnt grow well there, so they crossed it with seeds they boutght from Dutch company in Indonesia who used some indian sativas as repellent plants at coffee plantages? so thats what colombian is? subtropical hashplant x south indian sativas, of course heavily bred towards sativa, with like 10% or 5% of subtropical cultivar? so colombian got cbd from that subtropical hashplant.

I dont know but I grew congos, from LMN though, and I dont see any resemblance with colombians... I mean in effect. seems very different to me... but on the other it is fact that some varieties around Malawi lake displays some kind of stoniness in that sativa way, not like indica... that is similar to colombians. but congos I grew, were crazy mental effect, complete roller coaster effect, coming in waves.. so different to lumbo...

also that subtropical hashplant cultivar in colombian would explain, why Nevil got indica portion in his Omega plant, or why we see broader lumbomex phenos from Toms haze.

I know we were talking about hashplant in mexican varieties, while I thought it is present from 70s there, you said you think it was introduced much sooner to Mexico. or am I mistaken?

 

[MAHA KALA]

THH from the same repro I made...n+1 in my book

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THH P1

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I'm no expert....would love to know your opinions amigos

I asked dubi from ACE if he did try toms posi haze, and he said he smoked some samples from your cuts, I cant remember numbers of those cuts, like 23? or so? heheh

he said it is thai dominant in his eyes. he is expert to me.

 

[Raco]

This is an OT1s Haze grown by Kaiki from the original batch of seeds they got from Wolfman

According to Phylos .OT1s is related to Colombian Gold?

 

[Raco]

THH P1 revegged and reflowered under a skylight.

 

[Raco]

Does the plant in the background look like a Thai pheno?

 

[Rastafarout]

This is an OT1s Haze grown by Kaiki from the original batch of seeds they got from Wolfman

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According to Phylos .OT1s is related to Colombian Gold?

I’ve had a lemon Thai grow like that not very clear but clear enough..

 

[mexcurandero420]

I see. great info again.

but wasnt it like that american pharmacy companies were growing weed for tinctures etc in Colombia from 1850 till 1937.. started with subtropical hashplant. I dont say afghan. some indian subtropical cultivar plants and it didnt grow well there, so they crossed it with seeds they boutght from Dutch company in Indonesia who used some indian sativas as repellent plants at coffee plantages? so thats what colombian is? subtropical hashplant x south indian sativas, of course heavily bred towards sativa, with like 10% or 5% of subtropical cultivar? so colombian got cbd from that subtropical hashplant.

I dont know but I grew congos, from LMN though, and I dont see any resemblance with colombians... I mean in effect. seems very different to me... but on the other it is fact that some varieties around Malawi lake displays some kind of stoniness in that sativa way, not like indica... that is similar to colombians. but congos I grew, were crazy mental effect, complete roller coaster effect, coming in waves.. so different to lumbo...

also that subtropical hashplant cultivar in colombian would explain, why Nevil got indica portion in his Omega plant, or why we see broader lumbomex phenos from Toms haze.

I know we were talking about hashplant in mexican varieties, while I thought it is present from 70s there, you said you think it was introduced much sooner to Mexico. or am I mistaken?

That story I haven't found from other sources. Parke Davis did have seed collectors who traveled throughout the world looking for seeds of medicinal plants include Cannabis. Hashplant source was mainly India and Xinjiang. Xinjiang did supply India of hashish till 1935. In that year the Chinese government prohibited the cultivation of hashplants.

The Dutch brought in the 19th century Cannabis seeds from India to Aceh (Gayo mountains) for the coffee plantations as insect repellant plants against caterpillars. The natives recognized the plants. Till 1927 it was allowed to use the plant for recreational use. Since that year the recreational use of Cannabis was prohibited, only medicinal use was allowed.

 

[MAHA KALA]

That story I haven't found from other sources. Parke Davis did have seed collectors who traveled throughout the world looking for seeds of medicinal plants include Cannabis. Hashplant source was mainly India and Xinjiang. Xinjiang did supply India of hashish till 1935. In that year the Chinese government prohibited the cultivation of hashplants.

The Dutch brought in the 19th century Cannabis seeds from India to Aceh (Gayo mountains) for the coffee plantations as insect repellant plants against caterpillars. The natives recognized the plants. Till 1927 it was allowed to use the plant for recreational use. Since that year the recreational use of Cannabis was prohibited, only medicinal use was allowed.

I always like to read your posts. thanks.

so Xinjiang plant was grown in Colombia by American pharmacy?

 

[heirloomganja]

I always like to read your posts. thanks.

so Xinjiang plant was grown in Colombia by American pharmacy?

Xinjiang hashplants were grown in Nevada.

 

[Raco]

THH cut

 

[Raco]

X18 x THH F1

 

[kro-magnon]

X18 x THH F1

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This is another great cross of indica/sativa, is there some seed available of this hybrid?
The X18 line is supposed to have some green apple smelling phenotype, I've never had the occasion to test some.

 

[Raco]

This is another great cross of indica/sativa, is there some seed available of this hybrid?
The X18 line is supposed to have some green apple smelling phenotype, I've never had the occasion to test some.

Few seeds were produced and I had to choose ...DC x Haze or X18 x Haze F1s
I was still pissed because of the X-XVIII cut issue and chose the Monkey Haze.
Tom got all the X18Hz F1 seeds. I kept a few for personnal use.

 

[Raco]

Here's an old picture of "Cizaña" (darnel) from Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta

I´m quite familiar with this plant structure...If you ask me ,I´d say colombian

 

[Raco]

These are colombians too...seeds from Cali.
Guerrilla style @43N

 

[kro-magnon]

Few seeds were produced and I had to choose ...DC x Haze or X18 x Haze F1s
I was still pissed because of the X-XVIII cut issue and chose the Monkey Haze.
Tom got all the X18Hz F1 seeds. I kept a few for personnal use.

Sorry I'm not familiar with the situation you had with a X18 cut, too bad this cross was not widely made available to growers; there is certainly some great specimen able to come from the cross of those genetics.

 

[Raco]

Colombian (f) x Afghan (m) F1...some of the best of two worlds blended together

Half sister...colombian

sorry if Ive hi-jacked the thread

 

[bigherb]

Here's an old picture of "Cizaña" (darnel) from Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta View attachment 19002186
I´m quite familiar with this plant structure...If you ask me ,I´d say colombian

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What is the plant below ?

I was thinking how familiar you are with Colombians and your extensive experience with Toms line . What's your thoughts on the Genetics of Tomhill Haze

I miss Kaiki what a wealth of knowledge and Contributions to our community

That X18 was something interesting, too bad about the BS . I was very impressed with Tora bora

1luvbigherb

 

[bigherb]

That story I haven't found from other sources. Parke Davis did have seed collectors who traveled throughout the world looking for seeds of medicinal plants include Cannabis. Hashplant source was mainly India and Xinjiang. Xinjiang did supply India of hashish till 1935. In that year the Chinese government prohibited the cultivation of hashplants.

The Dutch brought in the 19th century Cannabis seeds from India to Aceh (Gayo mountains) for the coffee plantations as insect repellant plants against caterpillars. The natives recognized the plants. Till 1927 it was allowed to use the plant for recreational use. Since that year the recreational use of Cannabis was prohibited, only medicinal use was allowed.

Long ago if I recall we discussed the possibility of cannabis coming from borneo to colombia

Also past discussion have included African origins. I'd imagine that be a good probability. Seems African slaves have been brought to colombia since the 1500's .

Both parts of Colombia and Africa lie on the equator ,I'd assume acclimating wouldn't be difficult

Always great to read your post

1luvbigherb