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question for sam the skunkman on the original haze

MAHA KALA

atomizing haze essence
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A5 Hz ... only one from 5 who got no PM ...
i'll only use PM free strains to cross with the haze...
doesn't matter how fancy a strain is ... PM = trash
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all the best
M

I have never had PM on original haze. dont remember at least. all plants were very resistant in this regard. that's that "improvement" of crossing it with NL. one of those "improvements" hahaha :D
 

Raho

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I think you know answer :D he got banned. so this thread can be nice again and pleasant for growers of original haze. without that nonsense..


2103 posts he made in 14 months.
Half of them were angry reactions to things he misunderstood.


I'd say that it escalated quickly, but really it took way too long.
 

MAHA KALA

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High quality cannabis regardless if they are haze hybrids or not need strong terpenes coming off them. Its all pheno dependent. Some def have stronger aromas when touched/bumped. Plants that have no flav/aroma are not what I like keeping regardless of potency. If I dont enjoy smoking them whats the point. Its not only about the high.

it is not only about how strong odor is. A5hz has strong odor, yet quite plain, and not so rich like some phenos of original haze. richness in this case doesn't mean quantity - how much, but quality - another degree which changes whole system, scale of nuances, spectrum, palette, variability of terps in one sample. it is really better to grow some of it, than comment on it without straight experience. I didn't say it is not possible to create this kind of richness in hybrid, I only said that I grew plenty, and some are close, but none of them was same quality, still degree under it.

another part of it is if nose can smell it.. I know guys who work with synthetic paints, they dont smell anything..

I really doubt that some nug of original haze would stink up whole room like nug of chemD.. yet terps are more rich than at chemD.
 

MAHA KALA

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2103 posts he made in 14 months.
Half of them were angry reactions to things he misunderstood.


I'd say that it escalated quickly, but really it took way too long.
he just hasn't real life. because of that, he will be back soon. so enjoy peaceful intermezzo.
 

Hammerhead

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it is not only about how strong odor is. A5hz has strong odor, yet quite plain, and not so rich like some phenos of original haze. richness in this case doesn't mean quantity - how much, but quality - another degree, scale of nuances, spectrum, palette, variability of terps in one sample. it is really better to grow some of it, than comment on it without straight experience. I didn't say it is not possible to create this kind of richness in hybrid, I only said that I grew plenty, and some are close, but none of them was same quality, still degree under it.

another part of it is if nose can smell it.. I know guys who work with synthetic paints, they dont smell anything..

I really doubt that some nug of original haze would stink up whole room like nug of chemD.. yet terps are more rich than at chemD.


Its impossible to know what we ea consider quality. For me if it doesn't have any aroma or flav it ain't staying. I know there are many that think potency is all they care about, that ain't me.. I cant make an opinion yet on how much a Ohaze reaks. I've not grown it yet. That's about to change. Regardless of how potent it is if I dont like the aroma/flav it wont staying around. Others might chose different.
 

TheDarkStorm

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To comment on original haze you have to grow original haze...hhhhmmm....I wonder if sam considers some of the things people call original haze as original haze....I know only flying dutch man through sam had the ligit original haze...not sure anyone else was given permission those times
 

Hammerhead

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My original comment was about High quality cannabis including haze not OH specifically. Lots of things makup up high quality cannabis. If something missing it ain't high quality weed IMO. Someone else might not notice. anything missing. I do have OH in veg now
 

MAHA KALA

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Its impossible to know what we ea consider quality. For me if it doesn't have any aroma or flav it ain't staying. I know there are many that think potency is all they care about, that ain't me.. I cant make an opinion yet on how much a haze reaks. I've not grown it yet. That's about to change. Regardless of how potent it is if I dont like the aroma/flav it wont staying around. Others might chose different.
as far as tasty weed, there is no need to grow long flowering sativas, seems useless. they are mostly grown for something else..
 

MAHA KALA

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To comment on original haze you have to grow original haze...hhhhmmm....I wonder if sam considers some of the things people call original haze as original haze....I know only flying dutch man through sam had the ligit original haze...not sure anyone else was given permission those times
original haze means many many different phenos. not only A or C LOL hybrids cant decide what original haze is or what is not. that is nonsense. nobody can say what is original haze based on experience with hybrid of it, as there is always something else mixed in hybrid.
 

TheDarkStorm

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My original comment was about High quality cannabis including haze not OH specifically. Lots of things makup up high quality cannabis. If something missing it ain't high quality weed IMO. Someone else might not notice anything missing.

I agree hammer...best thing to do is just concentrate on finding and smoking awesome stand out cannabis...
 

TheDarkStorm

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original haze means many many different phenos. not only A or C LOL

I dont think I mentioned a or c...just mentioned original haze...legit original haze...
I agree maha some who's only smoked hybrids..yet thinks ther original haze needs to realise its not original haze.
 

Hammerhead

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as far as tasty weed, there is no need to grow long flowering sativas, seems useless. they are mostly grown for something else..


I'm looking for these special haze terpene traits to breed with. Its why I'm looking in haze genetics specifically for more. They produce terps not found in other varieties IMO. Im not growing sat for smelly weed lol. I already have plenty haze hybrids with strong terpenes/potency. Your right Im growing these for something else specifically.
 

Limeygreen

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Some original haze selections have amazing taste on their own, the ones I have grown so far did not match that profile. Hybrids have been better in terms of taste for sure, tom hill haze seems to be easier to find great taste in female selections although out of the 4 packs I grew, only did I really enjoy the taste of one immensely. Doesn't mean the rest were bad tasting just one stood out above the rest for me. Mextasy, colombian black haze have given excellent flavours imo and others opinion as well and imo better than the best selection of seedsman haze that I have sampled (seedsman haze green supreme cut)
 

MadMac

far beyond driven...
They were progeny tested meticulous...evry combination you can think of was done, including being put to each other and selfed...and even those selfings were tested in evry combination..doubled up..trippled up...wat ever you can think of was done(apart from were something may have been prematurely lost)...even sam gave him clones he had selected abit later that were tested

„ even those selfings were tested in evry combination..doubled up..trippled up...wat ever you can think of was done“
BULLSHIT!!!

you think so and tell peeps that’s the truth LOOOOOOL
not true what you tell here!
plz correct... where did you know that from -> source
you where there @ TheDarkStorm ???
no you was not there!
i know that and that what you have written is wrong...
dann all time again peep‘s try to make a story about haze that is not true!

P.S. and don‘t tell you know that from xyz who was there.... LOL
 

JohnnyChicago

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To comment on original haze you have to grow original haze...hhhhmmm....I wonder if sam considers some of the things people call original haze as original haze....I know only flying dutch man through sam had the ligit original haze...not sure anyone else was given permission those times

I dont think I mentioned a or c...just mentioned original haze...legit original haze...
I agree maha some who's only smoked hybrids..yet thinks ther original haze needs to realise its not original haze.

I am sure you are not meaning me.
As I did smoke Original Haze before Nevils Haze hybrids got sold into the Coffeeshops.
Did smoke Seedsman OH for the last time yesterday.
And in between almost 3 decades of mostly Haze smoking.

You can try asking Sam for the DNA results. But for myself the fasciated phenos we are seeing here and there are enough.


SamS post from 2015...

How do I get a leaf to test the DNA of the fasciated stem plant? Get your post count to over 50 so I can PM you.
I bet the mother I used to make the seed was also fasciated, I like her and used her a lot. When a small clone she acts normal when over 3 feet tall she fasciates every time with the top of the central stalk. I have had her for over 20 years. Not many reported fasciated progeny.

-SamS
 

harvestreaper

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I think you know answer :D he got banned. so this thread can be nice again and pleasant for growers of original haze. without that nonsense..

i find hempy oversensitive and disagreeable but,,im disappointed to hear hes banned i would not ban him myself freedom of speech is important to me
 
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