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Question about soil (invisible flower pot)

Ajunta Pall

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Moses is it? The whole point in case you missed it is to broaden mountain ninja's perspective, since more people than stoners grow in poor sandy soil. If the soil sucks then you ain't growing shit in it, weed or otherwise. So instead of gaining knowledge to help him plan better for whatever contingencies he may face, he should only glean said knowledge from cannabis sites because no one else in the world has anything to share.

Well then, Moses is it, how would you suggest he deal with high ground temperature that may increase the soil temperature in his containers? Or what he should do in August when all the surrounding vegetation is brown and his dark green plants stand out. Or what he should do if invasive roots clog the holes in the bottom of the container because they're trying to get at the water and abundant nutes in his holes. Or do you think being able to spot areas that have diseased plants before planting his own is a beneficial skill? Or if he hauls large containers in and finds out he reaches bedrock shortly after starting to dig? Or how small containers do not have enough space for compost to completely breakdown and be available for the next season when growing a plant in it. If he wants to do that I would start a compost pile at home and just replace the soil mix every year in a small 25 gallon container.

Pardon me for thinking that knowledge gained elsewhere can be married to the vast information about weed on this site to hedge your bets against failure.
 

moses wellfleet

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Moses is it? The whole point in case you missed it is to broaden mountain ninja's perspective, since more people than stoners grow in poor sandy soil. If the soil sucks then you ain't growing shit in it, weed or otherwise. So instead of gaining knowledge to help him plan better for whatever contingencies he may face, he should only glean said knowledge from cannabis sites because no one else in the world has anything to share.

Well then, Moses is it, how would you suggest he deal with high ground temperature that may increase the soil temperature in his containers? Or what he should do in August when all the surrounding vegetation is brown and his dark green plants stand out. Or what he should do if invasive roots clog the holes in the bottom of the container because they're trying to get at the water and abundant nutes in his holes. Or do you think being able to spot areas that have diseased plants before planting his own is a beneficial skill? Or if he hauls large containers in and finds out he reaches bedrock shortly after starting to dig? Or how small containers do not have enough space for compost to completely breakdown and be available for the next season when growing a plant in it. If he wants to do that I would start a compost pile at home and just replace the soil mix every year in a small 25 gallon container.

Pardon me for thinking that knowledge gained elsewhere can be married to the vast information about weed on this site to hedge your bets against failure.
Sorry I asked friend!

Apologies to mountain ninja for clogging up his thread :tiphat:
 

moses wellfleet

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Mountain ninja my advice to you. You came to the right place there is more than enough info in the stickys listed above and best of all it is on topic for the exact crop you are trying to grow. Internet forums can obviously be cluttered at times, use the search function, or if you get stuck just ask as you have done in this thread. There are highly knowledgable peeps on this forum, stoners some may be, always willing to help. Check people's rep, post count and forum albums to decide who to believe as a rough measure. You will find what you need!
 
Ajunta Pall your right on the money when it comes to the soil in the location I want to grow. It's thin, rocky, poor water retention. So I was going to dig 25-35 gallon holes and fill them with good amendments to grow in but now I'm considering digging the holes larger and digging Fewer holes .basically fewer holes then originally planned but bigger better holes then originally planned. And by "honey hole" no I'm not referring to a container in the ground that was just my slang for a good rich hole. BUT as Moses wellfleet said, my plants roots will want to linger around in my hole of rich dirt instead of going out into the thin, rocky, dry surrounding soil. But you've got me thinking because yes it makes sense that the surrounding native plants roots in that area are also going to want to come enjoy my hole of nutrients and moisture. So I've got decisions to make, because I want these holes to be productive year after year adding some goodies here and there but I do not want to completely drain and fill back up my holes with fresh dirt every single year. Fabric grow pots? To keep my roots in and the native plant roots out?
 

corky1968

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Don't line the holes with plastic bags. If it rains a lot your plants will suffer.

In sandy soil, you may also want to spread a 2" - 3" layer of straw, other dead grasses or
leaves around each plant to act as a mulch and to keep the sun from overheating the soil.

If you grow in pots make sure they covered as well with mulch to cool them.
 
Corky1968 mulch is defiantly tried and true as a winner. Because like you said loose sandy soil can over heat and also a good thick layer of mulch keeps the ground at a more consistent temperature and plant roots like that. And yes I've pretty much put a X on the trash bag idea.
 

gorilla ganja

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How do you know the native soil is poor. Did you have it tested?
Are there no native plants in the area or very poor growing plants?

You have plenty of time to take some samples and get them tested, you may be surprised at what is there already.

I think if you are planning on using the spot for several years you can do some experimenting.
I do not see any point in burying pots, Unless you want to force flower with root restriction.

Just try a few different methods to enrich the existing soil not replace all of it. Maybe you just need a handful of time release fertilizer and not hundreds of pounds of amendments. You are the only one that knows the spot and the reality of bringing stuff to it.

Best of luck and may all your Buds be Huge.

Peace GG
 
Gorilla ganja years ago I tried growing about a mile or so from this spot (experiment, was uncertain how the plants would react) with the exact same type of ground and small thin weak plants with undeveloped bud is all that grew there (I used slow releasing fertilizer) The type of plants all around are green but just don't thrive. As a experienced grower you get a good sense of what the dirt is like (although you can be fooled) I'm certain about this. It would be awesome if no amendments were needed for this spot, just native soil and a little fert, BUT of course I'm not that lucky.

put in great amounts of work, reap great amounts of success. Hopefully! But what more can you ask for.
 

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