Question about landrace Kush.

[Tarbosh]

haha, yea my fuckin childhood..... first time I smoked any type of deez was in 97..... its 2006 now.... do the math.... Im 26..............................now shit, if that was your only argument.... ha.... I love it when trolls start troll bashing..... Jack I give you the props for your knowledge......... but being an ass about it..... and calling it being a salty motherfucker..... shit dude.... and nevermind.... you and I go back..... shit we've hated eachother since og..... but everyone on OG was on my side, ever since my "Haze, wots the Deal" Thread, all you have ever done is start fights with me....even when I politely ask you to stop via PM.... now we hit ICmag.... and you try to sway the forum in your favor.....HNIC......ok..... did you 2 not just bash me and am I not defending myself now?.............think about that one..... all I did was express my OPINION of a breeder........kinda what the Breeders Forum is for..... now I have to defend myself from being bashed by trolls........


back to the topic......... personally, my opinion, is I do not like to see, such great landraces, such as The Kush, sold out....just as earily breeders capped and tamed soaring sativas by Skunk-ifying land races from around the world, and the sour diesel controversy....... but thats just my o2........take it for what it is.....



ps. Just to know who I am dealing with....... do you people believe inbreeding to believe a positive breeding practice and do you promote all aspects of it?

 

[Guest]

....Im 26..........

That says it all.
You're still in the 'know it all' stage, ah, silly youth!
Grow for another decade, and get back to us, when your opinions are more experience oriented, and not based on your youthful, mostly misinformed opinions.
At some point, we're hoping to be able to get Rez to give us some pictures to post, and you can then get all bent out of shape at the large list of elite clones he's got in his stable, flowering in all their glory.
Right now, he says he doesn't even want to be bothered with budshots, as he liked to post them himself, with relevant information attached.
We'll see what happens.
From our point of view, tarbosh,your trolling is both empty, and trite, and lacks substance.

In times like these
In times like those
What will be will be
And so it goes
And it always goes on and on...
On and on it goes

And there has always been laughing, crying, birth, and dying
Boys and girls with hearts that take and give and break
And heal and grow and recreate and raise and nurture
But then hurt from time to time like these
And times like those
And what will be will be
And so it goes

And there will always be stop and go and fast and slow
Action,Reaction, sticks and stones and broken bones
Those for peace and those for war
And god bless these ones, not those ones
But these ones made times like these
And times like those
What will be will be
And so it goes
And it always goes on and on...
On and on it goes

But somehow I know it won't be the same
Somehow I know it will never be the same.

 

[Guest]

haha, yea my fuckin childhood..... first time I smoked any type of deez was in 97..... its 2006 now.... do the math.... Im 26..............................now shit, if that was your only argument.... ha.... I love it when trolls start troll bashing..... Jack I give you the props for your knowledge......... but being an ass about it..... and calling it being a salty motherfucker..... shit dude.... and nevermind.... you and I go back..... shit we've hated eachother since og..... but everyone on OG was on my side, ever since my "Haze, wots the Deal" Thread, all you have ever done is start fights with me....even when I politely ask you to stop via PM.... now we hit ICmag.... and you try to sway the forum in your favor.....HNIC......ok..... did you 2 not just bash me and am I not defending myself now?.............think about that one..... all I did was express my OPINION of a breeder........kinda what the Breeders Forum is for..... now I have to defend myself from being bashed by trolls........


back to the topic......... personally, my opinion, is I do not like to see, such great landraces, such as The Kush, sold out....just as earily breeders capped and tamed soaring sativas by Skunk-ifying land races from around the world, and the sour diesel controversy....... but thats just my o2........take it for what it is.....



ps. Just to know who I am dealing with....... do you people believe inbreeding to believe a positive breeding practice and do you promote all aspects of it?

Yeah I remember that thread, when myself and about 5 other people had to expalin a simple answer to you on what Haze is. But I forgot youre the expert. I am glad you had to get a bunch of trolls on OG to take your side, a bit high schoolish, dontcha think? I dont hate you , to hate is to envy . You are nothing nor have anything I want . You quite simply arent that important.

You like to start shit and I think its funny so keep it coming junior.







Nevermind


PS: And as far as PM's, Yeah I remember that too. You wouldnt leave me alone till I put you on ignore. Same as what many had to do with you to get you to stop trolling

 

[Guest]

That says it all.
You're still in the 'know it all' stage, ah, silly youth!
Grow for another decade, and get back to us, when your opinions are more experience oriented, and not based on your youthful, mostly misinformed opinions.
At some point, we're hoping to be able to get Rez to give us some pictures to post, and you can then get all bent out of shape at the large list of elite clones he's got in his stable, flowering in all their glory.
Right now, he says he doesn't even want to be bothered with budshots, as he liked to post them himself, with relevant information attached.
We'll see what happens.
From our point of view, tarbosh,your trolling is both empty, and trite, and lacks substance.

Indeed







Nevermind

 

[glasspackedbowl]

give it a rest. No more bashing of Rez or Tarbosh. kush or leave....

 

[Tarbosh]

Can We Please Let this all go.... I love this place, and better than anyone I am not, I chose to voice my opinion on rez and his breeding ethic and tactics..... after all this is the breeders forum.... the last thing I would like to see happen is account loss because of a battle of whos opinion is righter..... jeez, can't I make a comment regarding a breeder without getting bashed by his groupies? I used to talk to Rez, I had total respect for the dude, he put me on to MJ Botany by Robert Clarke.... for that I am forever greatful.... thanks...... but it hurt me to see him make that transition from perfecting WW.....to well, where it is now....... call it what you want, I dont judge it to be bad or good..... I just would have liked to see it have gone different..... I wish nothing but Peace Love and Positivity to this amazing place..........

how about this....... how would everyone like to see the Kush be brought to market?....... what methods and tactics in breeding, do you think will be the most successful and yield the best quality out of the original Kush Genetics..............


does anyone have any lineage on the Dawg or the Kush? the landraces and then maybe the later hybrids that came together to form this wonder?

 

[glasspackedbowl]

When was the last time somebody went over to the Hindu-Kush Mtns. and brought back some landrace beans.

I've heard it's inbreed overthere, but I can't help but wonder what other native forms of Kush still are out there.

Who brought the the hindu-kush west in the first place?

I also wonder what other genetics have mixed in with the regions kush's since trade routes have been used through this area for a long time.

Feel free to add any and all thoughts on LANDRACE Kush......please not kush hybrids.......thanks

...............

 

[Guest]

In breeders foru I beleive there is a strain called " Paki" which is a landrace from Pakistan.













Nevermind

 

[alaskind]

I have grown a nearly pure "Kush" strain from Cann Bio Gen seeds called Taskenti-it comes from the Kush mountains in Uzbekistan... on my top 5 list....

 

[Guest]

Pine Tar Kush
tom hill Seeds



Hindu kush
sensi seeds

 

[Tarbosh]

I think there are like three or four dominant strain lineages from out there contributing to our genetics these days, India - Indica, Afgan, Pakistani and Kush from the Hindu Kush Mountain range area...... I hear that alot of the kush seeds are very small and hard to germinate, I think that was DJ short...... they are like dry climate rock indica strains that grow vigoriously, afgani into like balls of resin almost.... and flower early.... to be honest, I've spoken to many a grower as well as I agree that the Cali Kush isn't really kush at all.... its a variations of the original Dawg Genetics, forming as a parallel somewhere along the breeding lines on the west coast to the newly stumbled upon later cross of dawg genetics.... the sour d.... now whether or not the original chemdawg came from the Afgani Kush Reigion..... is an important question to ask....... and how it got here as bowl said....... is another, many have insights as to the lineage of sour diesel......... what about the other half......... who knows how the kush came about?!?!?!! .......... anyone?

 

[Guest]

Hey Tarbosh you are wrong, Kush seeds are usually tiger striped fatties. You must have conversed with some pretty lame growers, especially if they told you that California Kush isn't Kush at all... I wonder what their definition of Kush is anyway. OG Kush and Bubba seem like hybrids, but out here you can find so much Pure, Purple, Strawberry share that taste and smell of pure unadulterated Kush, that deep,strong Catpiss/Skunk/Kushiness... Mmmm... I am smoking on the Cotton Candy right now, tastes less like Kush and more like fruity pink bubblegum, with a polite little touch of Kush to finish out the palette... This isn't 100% kush but

I've spoken to many a grower as well as I agree that the Cali Kush isn't really kush at all.... its a variations of the original Dawg Genetics, forming as a parallel somewhere along the breeding lines on the west coast to the newly stumbled upon later cross of dawg genetics

What the fuck? Please don't listen to these "growers" ever again. My father was smoking Kush in the 70s, and I have since the early 90s. This Dawg came around rather recently IIRC, there is no way that strain spawned these generations old strains..

OG and Bubba aren't the only Kush strains. And please disregard any advice you recieve from those friends again.

 

[Guest]

I have noticed good Kush strains share the same super-dense and stacked-calyx structure, sometimes the Strawberry Kush will have that floral cluster look, this stuff was just rockhard.

Strawberry Kush









Purple Kush
Super potent... High lasts forever... Leaves a kush taste in your mouth for a loong time.








And how have you been smoking Sour Diesel since your childhood, Tarbosh? I think Rez and the other guys came to a conclusion it was just created recently?

 

[JimmyEatWorld]

"Hindu Kush Range - Cannabis indica (Afghanistan and Pakistan) - (30 to 37 north latitude)

This strain from the foothills (up to 3,200 meters [10,000 feetj) of the Hindu Kush range is grown in small rural gardens, as it has been for hundreds of years, and is used primarily for the production of hashish. In these areas hashish is usually made from the resins covering the pistil late calyxes and associated leaflets. These resins are re moved by shaking and crushing the flowering tops over a silk screen and collecting the dusty resins that fall off the plants. Adulteration and pressing usually follow in the production of commercial hashish. Strains from this area are often used as type examples for Cannabis indica. Early maturation and the belief by clandestine cultivators that this strain may be exempt from laws controlling Cannabis sativa and indeed may be legal, has resulted in its proliferation throughout domestic populations of "drug" Cannabis. Names such as "hash plant" and "skunk weed" typify its acrid aroma reminiscent of "primo" hashish from the high valleys near Mazar-i-Sharif, Chitral, and Kandahar in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

This strain is characterized by short, broad plants with thick, brittle woody stems and short internodes. The main stalk is usually only four to six feet tall, but the relatively unbranched primary limbs usually grow in an upright fashion until they are nearly as tall as the central stalk and form a sort of upside-down conical shape. These strains are of medium size, with dark green leaves having 5 to 9 very wide, coarsely serrated leaflets in a circular array. The lower leaf surface is often lighter in color than the upper surface. These leaves have so few broad coarse leaflets that they are often compared to a maple leaf. Floral clusters are dense and appear along the entire length of the primary limbs as very resinous leafy balls. Most plants produce flowering clusters with a low calyx-to-leaf ratio, but the inner leaves associated with the calyxes are usually liberally encrusted with resin. Early maturation and extreme resin production is characteristic of these strains. This may be the result of acclimatization to northern temperate latitudes and selection for hashish production. The acrid smell associated with strains from the Hindu Kush appears very early in the seedling stage of both staminate and pistillate individuals and continues throughout the life of the plant. Sweet aromas do often develop but this strain usually loses the sweet fragrance early, along with the clear, cerebral psychoactivity.

Short stature, early maturation, and high resin production make Hindu Kush strains very desirable for hybridizing and indeed they have met with great popularity. The gene pool of imported Hindu Kush strains seems to be dominant for these desirable characteristics and they seem readily passed on to the F1 hybrid generation. A fine hybrid may result from crossing a Hindu Kush variety with a late-maturing, tall, sweet strain from Thailand, India, or Nepal. This produces hybrid offspring of short stature, high resin content, early maturation, and sweet taste that will mature high quality flowers in northern climates. Many hybrid crosses of this type are made each year and are currently cultivated in many areas of North America. Hindu Kush seeds are usually large, round, and dark grey or black in coloring with some mottling. "


From: Marijuana Botany by Robert Connell Clarke

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Can you please delete the off-topic posts everyone ?

 

[Guest]

Backbacking in the Hindu-kush Mountains sounds like fun.........there are tours that hike through..................I'd rather get my own guides as to be able to hike just for bean pick'n.

 

[DocLeaf]

Trichrome Gnome, DocLeaf (if i remember well) has a thread Chitral here in the Breeders Forum, you may find it a bit informative...

the Chitral thread : http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=20942

 

[Ogstradamus]

Amazing thread...learned so much.

 

[glasspackedbowl]

I must have over looked this one.

$69.27
WHL - OK-47

Breeder : White Label
Flowering Time : 45 Days
Environment : Indoor
Origin : Afghanistan / Holland
Seeds Per Pack : 15

The OK 47 is a famous Afghani hybrid that was collected in the early 70's. It received its less-than-peaceful title after the Russian invasion in the 80’s. This is a traditional Afghani hash plant, cultivated for generations to enhance its resin content. The yield may not be as extreme as more recent Afghani hybrids that have been bred for commercial production. The potency, however, is amazing.

 

[Guest]

hey whats up Miss. Information, you're looking quite lovely this evening..

I must have over looked this one.

$69.27
WHL - OK-47

Breeder : White Label
Flowering Time : 45 Days
Environment : Indoor
Origin : Afghanistan / Holland
Seeds Per Pack : 15

The OK 47 is a famous Afghani hybrid that was collected in the early 70's. It received its less-than-peaceful title after the Russian invasion in the 80’s. This is a traditional Afghani hash plant, cultivated for generations to enhance its resin content. The yield may not be as extreme as more recent Afghani hybrids that have been bred for commercial production. The potency, however, is amazing.

i wasn't aware hybrids were synonymous with landraces....

i guess ya learn somethin new everyday

There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life.
- Frank Zappa

 

[Guest]

^^^That pic made my day a little more tolerable!!! THANKS