Pruned a few weeks from chop for max yeild and now leaves are drooping

[zhugeliang]

Hey guys, I need some help please. About a day ago I did some pruning for max yeild, I cut off any stem that was on the lower third of the plant which I suspected of becoming popcorn buds but when I went to check the plant in the morning it looked like this. I went ahead and thought maybe I cut a little too much off and now it is being overnuted so I switched out all the nuted water and it is currently in ph balanced water. Do you guys think that will help?

I am running a DWC with a 400hps light if that helps any and I always keep the ph between 5.8 - 6.1. Any help will be greatly appreciated. As you can see though the buds still look good and there is no discoloration in the leaves. They are just drooping.

Thanks guys.

 

[Throwgar]

What's the heat looking like in there? Is the ventilation adequate? It's either that, or possibly over/under watering?

 

[zhugeliang]

Tops the temp is at 85 in there with the light one. I have a dual fan set up at the top of the cab and fans along the bottom pulling in air from outside of the cab. How do I prevent over or under watering in a DWC though? The roots are essentially drowned in the water at all times. Thanks for the reply.

 

[Throwgar]

Hmm.... I run DWC too. Are your airstones clogged? I always cut off the lower 1/3. I will keep on pruning until the stretch is done, so I do't think that's your problem.

 

[jaypee89]

Looks underwatered......but then you said you're running a DWC setup. I dont know anything about that so I dont know what to tell you brud =/

 

[Guest]

They do look underwatered. Did anything happen to shock the roots. I have poured too much hydrogen peroxide into a rez when I had a fungus problem and that's what they looked like. I have shocked plants to the point where they shed their roots, looked like yours and barely clinging to life grew new roots. I had it happen in week 3 of flower.

Don't know if that is your case. Did you add anything that could have burned the roots?
Or shocked them?

Maybe a more experienced member can help you.

 

[zhugeliang]

I am pretty sure it is not the airstones. I bought the long ones that never clog and I can keep popping holes in them if ever they do. As a matter of fact, my initial set up is one for 2 buckets with a 60 gal pump split between them but since my other bucket hosted a male I have both airstones in this bucket so I am pretty sure that it is receiving enough air.

I did the pruning about 3 weeks from harvest. Do you think that might have anything to do with it? The main stalks seem to be pretty sturdy so I don't really understand it. It's just the fan leaves that are drooping. My poor, poor plant. She was doing so well. I would hate to have to call it a loss and chop her down early. Luckily I have 4 clones of this one waiting. I would still rather save her though. Thanks for the responses. Can anyone tell me how to battle underwatering in DWC?

 

[Sinfuldreams]

Check the Air Stones.
How far from harvest?
If it's just a week or 2 keep them in the PHd H2O for the flush anyway.
I think they will live.

Sin

 

[Sinfuldreams]

As far as i know there is no way you can UNDERWATER in DWC how ever you sure can OVER WATER them, hence the Air Stone questions.

Just watch em for a day. Even if they don't perk up it wont be a total loss.

Sin

 

[zhugeliang]

Thanks Sin, are you saying that even if the leaves don't perk up, the buds will still continue to grow? I don't think they have quite yet reached the point where they explode in growth yet but I know that usually happens during the last few weeks of flower.

Do you think plain water for two weeks will be enough to help with the end of the line budding? I also took your advice and poked some extra holes in the air stones to created more bubbles. Hopefully they will look better in the morning.

 

[Brother_Monk]

Let me ask you...how would you feel having the bottom third of your skin pulled off? How about two digits from each of your apendages hacked off? Hmmmm? It's a little SHOCKing if you ask me. Can you raise the light up a little while she recovers?

BM

 

[Guest]

i agree that part of the plants life is stressful enough..without being butchered

Let me ask you...how would you feel having the bottom third of your skin pulled off? How about two digits from each of your apendages hacked off? Hmmmm? It's a little SHOCKing if you ask me. Can you raise the light up a little while she recovers?

BM

 

[-VT-]

I lost a plant in 24 hours in DWC once...(documented at OG with pics)...I pruned (same as you)...pruning is not what did it though...it was how I pruned...I tore off a branch leaving an exposed wound....rather than using pruning scissors (how dumb that was lol)

Plant fell over and died 24 hours later....I had fungus gnats at the time....(fungus gnats spread pythium, and well fungus ) Anyways that open wound was infected with a fungus and that plant died overnite....

I'd check the root zone temps also (see if you smell rot)...low DO is a killer

I prune in bloom all the time...just did last night....and the plant has not skipped a beat

good luck

 

[Hotgurl]

You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

 

[Sinfuldreams]

Thanks Sin, are you saying that even if the leaves don't perk up, the buds will still continue to grow? I don't think they have quite yet reached the point where they explode in growth yet but I know that usually happens during the last few weeks of flower.

Do you think plain water for two weeks will be enough to help with the end of the line budding? I also took your advice and poked some extra holes in the air stones to created more bubbles. Hopefully they will look better in the morning.

Yes to some extent.
VT gave some very good points.
Root Zone temps. And Not ripping the outer bark of the plant while pruning.

2 weeks in Water only is the way I use to flush the plants.
Your plants should start eating the left overs in the leaves.
However if your more than 2 weeks away try using 1/2 of your normal mix ratio.
What ever the reason for this stress, you need to try and stop it. IMHO more nutes at this point wont help.
I would do what you did! Wait see if it slows it down. A day or two in plain PHd water should do them no harm.
But you may never get the Spry Plants you had.

If all fails and they look dead then just cut and dry and smoke pernormal.
You have it old enough now to get high anyway....

I hope you figure this out, let us know how they are doing tomarrow.
All the Best

Sin

 

[Fonzie]

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It's not nice or right to beg for rep.

 

[zhugeliang]

Hey guys, the poor thing things tired still. The wilt extremity is slowly moving it's way to the top and leaves are starting yellow a bit on the tips. I checked the airstones and airflow seems to be normal. I am really starting to believe that this plant did not want to be pruned. Haha. What a foul mistake to make so close to harvest.

My question at this point is this. If the fan leaves all wilt and start to die off, does that mean that the buds are next? I would figure so and by waiting to see if it recoups, am I sacrificing potency or any other measure of goodness? I am not so sad seeing as I have clones ready to go into flower but being that this is only my third time growing, I can't help but feel some kind of attachment to this plant. Haha. Call me weird.

Thanks for all the help guys.

 

[Guest]

wilting can be from lack of fresh air also, how good is you intake, is it fresh?

 

[zhugeliang]

I think I have pretty good ventilation which might also be a bad thing as the weather around here is a little messed up. Warm one day and cold the next. I think that might have also added to the stress on the plant after the prune. It's enough to get your legs cut off but to have to sit in an igloo afterwards would probably kill you. I'm setting up a heater in the room to bring the outside air temp up a little and hope for the best.

Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

[-VT-]

Did you check root zone temps?