Project ECSD: An Attempt To Bring Back a True Classic

[RicoD]

nice buds. I dont doubt the authenticity. In fact I would be happy to be fooled by even a fake that had the same stink as the sour I held in 2004. Unfortunately, that hasnt happened to me in over a decade. Not saying its impossible, but seems unlikely.

 

[Dude_Wheres_That_Chem?]

I've got the real ECSD that has that bubba structure and classic nostalgic acrid kerosene nose to her. Had her since 04 now and she remains the same as the day i got her .my fav smoke for sure

 

[JetLife175]

wish this were true, but shed be out there on a large scale if it were. It may look like it, but nothing ive seen in over a decade has the smell and taste at full power that she once did.

This looks like a great project, wish you luck in finding something special.

That's just a flat out lie.

There's a lot of stuff that people lost that isn't out there at "large scale" as you call it.

All that aside I love sour kushes so I'm stoked that these are getting popped. Can find some really stanky plants in this cross I'm certain of it.

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

Definitely out there, or was in 2015'ish for me.

"The" cut of ECSD is a total short term memory wiper. I would start looking around the room for the bong and lighter (still in my hands) before I've even exhaled the hit. Loudest girl I've ever run.

Amaaazing plant, and a total no go for me. lololol

 

[Burt]

chunkypigs wrote “Rebel Grown VT has clones and flower in dozens of VT dispos and in the spring thousands of clones a week are moving into very lucky hands all over the state.”
That’s great to hear!
However, if he’s not doing shipping, the rest of us are F**k’D no?
I love to visit VT as much as the next wook but a 990 mile drive is some bullshit
As for your SD repo, I’m down dood and I love the OG/chem x SD crosses too. Found a dozen seeds in some work and “partner” stole the rest
While it’s not as “euphoric” as the straight ECSD, the ease of growth and sub 70 day harvest window are appealing.
Please keep us updated

 

[Raco]

 

[RicoD]

That's just a flat out lie.

There's a lot of stuff that people lost that isn't out there at "large scale" as you call it.

All that aside I love sour kushes so I'm stoked that these are getting popped. Can find some really stanky plants in this cross I'm certain of it.

proof is in the pudding and there is no more pudding as far as sour is concerned. I wish i was mistaken and would welcome being proven wrong with open arms. I mean you have JJ putting out generation after generation of sour seeds and no one has a come out with a cut that is anywhere close.

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

Yeah, cuts and seeds are different.

I'm well familiar with people not believing something for one reason or another. You're welcome to continue, 'cause it's not going to draw blood from anyone here. lol

 

[Baba Karuna]

You are mistaken. ECSD is everywhere these days. From Chaco's hand into mine and I have been passing it ever since... the Skunktek cut is also ECSD and it is everywhere as well and super easy to grab online.

you can get the ECSD clone and many other classics like the original OG Kush, the 92 ogk, SFV, TK, HPK, Headband, Chem D and 91 in dispos all over VT sold by Ganja Rebel Dan's VT operation. I helped get many old classics into their op and they vend the clones along with Dan's stellar hybrids like the double OG Chem, Natty Bumpo, 5Gs and others. they also vend all the new classics too, there's no other OP in the US that vends this variety of genetics.

Rebel Grown VT has clones and flower in dozens of VT dispos and in the spring thousands of clones a week are moving into very lucky hands all over the state.

the real classics have never left the east coast and I have worked tirelessly for years to make certain they are spread far and wide and It's ICmag members who passed me these, who hold and recover and quarentine these and they are the ones behind the scenes doing the difficult work of saving and sharing these classics... #ICmagFamForTheWin

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Double OG Chem, IMO the strongest clone ever saved and my newest fave...

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Beautiful plants very happy to know that classics like this are still going strong

🪷Om Namah Śivaya🪷

 

[ojd]

I've got the real ECSD that has that bubba structure and classic nostalgic acrid kerosene nose to her. Had her since 04 now and she remains the same as the day i got her .my fav smoke for sure

Throw up some pics of your cut from 2004 you hold , be interesting to see which cut this looks/sounds like from the well known Diesel cuts around today

 

[Burt]

“I've got the real ECSD that has that bubba structure and classic nostalgic acrid kerosene nose to her. Had her since 04 now and she remains the same as the day i got her .my fav smoke for sure”

Is the one your referring to go by the name day wrecker?
The diesel I know and love is a day enhancer, not a wrecker and labelled as the Chaco cut
I’ve reached out to rebel dan and if I have to drive to a VT dispensary to acquire these cuts, I don’t mind.
My family still lives on the cape and around NH and a camping trip to the Green Mtns is long overdue

 

[flower~power]

I got a dumb question ..why is it that lots of the people who knew sour 20 years ago and then get reacquainted with it feel that it’s just not the same as it was? I went through about five different well-known current sours are claiming to be the original. It was never like I remember it. Am I remembering through a pair of rose tinted glasses? It was always kind of like I remembered it but watered down. Is it possible that some of the cuts are not the equivalent of the other cuts, even though they’re originating from the exact same genetics... but spread out through different hands over the years? Are some people getting tired, old clones, and other people getting the original preserved stock as it was? Broader question is why do some genetics tire out over the years and some maintain the vigor & potency?

 

[Burt]

The cuts more than likely are suffering from viroid aka STD’s if they are sour lite as it were. I remember having this discussion here 12 years ago with Rez even chiming in.
The Chaco needs to go into invitro aka tissue culture and then spread to the whole world. Many agree that the Chaco is the ECSD.
The problem is that those who are holding her aren’t interested in seeing her spread. She is supreme breeding material and the growers turned breeders want to see hybrids in the greater community knowing full well, the hybrids cannot match her in pure form.
If you look at the current breeders who have the Chaco, they are all selling hybrids and BX’s. This includes katsu, High n lonesome, rebel grown, and OJD.
I’m happy to do it, I’ve been wanting to get a small tissue culture lab set up anyways and it is beyond frustrating to see the best cultivar of all time not readily available.
She’s all that and more
Even Gary Peyton is a sour diesel hybrid.
This wasn’t disclosed but analysis has proven it. That sour terp which can be tasted in well grown Peyton easily although it’s watered down

 

[JetLife175]

I got a dumb question ..why is it that lots of the people who knew sour 20 years ago and then get reacquainted with it feel that it’s just not the same as it was? I went through about five different well-known current sours are claiming to be the original. It was never like I remember it. Am I remembering through a pair of rose tinted glasses? It was always kind of like I remembered it but watered down. Is it possible that some of the cuts are not the equivalent of the other cuts, even though they’re originating from the exact same genetics... but spread out through different hands over the years? Are some people getting tired, old clones, and other people getting the original preserved stock as it was? Broader question is why do some genetics tire out over the years and some maintain the vigor & potency?

There was one that I was getting coming from north county San Diego circa 2006-2009. I haven't come across that one since. This guy was the very first person I ever saw either strawberry diesel flowers as well. I was one degree away from him in the food chain so never got the chance to figure out where he got his sour from. I've been chasing that one forever.

I'm fairly certain there were multiple cuts as time has come to reveal. It all depends on which one you got first I think is how it goes.