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Prison Priveleges?
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no its most catergories ,u can even have a playstation in ya cell ,,i think they'd doctor yor ds though so u cant do the wireless
......when I was inside...(illegal importation of hashish)......all we had for entertainment was chess and maybe a book......banged up 23 hours a day in a small cell with 2 others.....slopping out every morning.....bad food.......and bad company........and an hour to walk around some prison yard every day....
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yeah i remember slopping the piss buckets ,shit parcels and 23 hour lock up ,,luckily they changed it all in the 90's, but i'm sure dartmore ,winson green and wormwood still have slopping out ,,the smell of them buckets was enough to stop me going back forever
Silver Bullet
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Gypsy Nirvana said:
I'm surprised they had you on 23 hour lock down for a non violent crime.
What do prisoners do during those 23 hours? There's probably no room to do pushups or anything...plus you'd be sitting around in your own sweat.
Do they give you books or do you have to stare at the wall?
so did your level 2 allowed the tvs?
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nope no tv besides the one in everyone got to watch, there was a channel that had 2 prison approved movies per week, and some basic cable channels, the library was one we could go to, and wasnt brought to us on a cart.
Silver Bullet
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Could friends/family send you reading material?
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usually it had to be straight from the vendor, like amazon.com, so that way your family couldnt send you books with the pages dipped in liquid meth or stuff like that.
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Like with laws in general, rules vary from state to state, and institution to institution, though federal facilities in the U.S. are fairly standardized, and privledges often depend on whether or not you've screwed up or angered someone.
I can't recall if I ever tried to send literature in the form of books to an inmate, though I don't think that I did. I did write letters regularly to some, which were read both directions by the guards.
I set up a telephonic interview with an Alaska fellow doing a minimum mandatory while he was in a Texas FCI; I contacted the warden at that FCI re. the interview, using letter-head from the public radio station where a talk host had agreed to do the interview. The show went over an hour past the normal one hour limit, and the warden nor his guards hassled the person being interviewed, which, during his time, was unusual. They provided that person with a small room and a telephone for the interview. They were surprisingly reasonable in that instance.
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I can't recall if I ever tried to send literature in the form of books to an inmate, though I don't think that I did. I did write letters regularly to some, which were read both directions by the guards.
I set up a telephonic interview with an Alaska fellow doing a minimum mandatory while he was in a Texas FCI; I contacted the warden at that FCI re. the interview, using letter-head from the public radio station where a talk host had agreed to do the interview. The show went over an hour past the normal one hour limit, and the warden nor his guards hassled the person being interviewed, which, during his time, was unusual. They provided that person with a small room and a telephone for the interview. They were surprisingly reasonable in that instance.
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Silver Bullet
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what are you, a writer?
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In the case of the fellow referenced above, I was once his friend, and later an acquaintance. At the time of his interview, I was a legalization activist, a licensed clinical social worker, licensed marriage and family therapist, and, as stated, his friend.
I do some writing. Mostly about drug policy, government affairs, oil policy, etc.
His case was one of many that struck home, where the proverbial light went off that folks 'we' all knew when we were young, naive, and foolish, could make the trip from being a 'good time charlie,' to doing time in a federal correctional facility. In other words, no one was completely immune.
I knew a person who I'd regarded as a friend, who worked at a public radio station. I told him about my friend, and asked if he'd give me some letter-head from the station in order to contact the warden at that specific FCI in Texas, and, if I could set it up, would he make the show happen. He was routinely doing an hour of talk radio every week-day A.M.
He agreed.
The show went well over 2 hours. It brought the reality of marijuana growers' fates to a listening audience that was typically removed from the finer points of such things. And the fact that it ocurred within a couple of years after the bogus recrim vote in Alaska (1990) was a very strategic opportunity then, too; the fruits of that unconstitutional folly were broadcast into about 20 communities/villages that day... for free, but for the cost of a phone call.
For a couple of hours that day, it felt like we were winning something.
moose eater
I do some writing. Mostly about drug policy, government affairs, oil policy, etc.
His case was one of many that struck home, where the proverbial light went off that folks 'we' all knew when we were young, naive, and foolish, could make the trip from being a 'good time charlie,' to doing time in a federal correctional facility. In other words, no one was completely immune.
I knew a person who I'd regarded as a friend, who worked at a public radio station. I told him about my friend, and asked if he'd give me some letter-head from the station in order to contact the warden at that specific FCI in Texas, and, if I could set it up, would he make the show happen. He was routinely doing an hour of talk radio every week-day A.M.
He agreed.
The show went well over 2 hours. It brought the reality of marijuana growers' fates to a listening audience that was typically removed from the finer points of such things. And the fact that it ocurred within a couple of years after the bogus recrim vote in Alaska (1990) was a very strategic opportunity then, too; the fruits of that unconstitutional folly were broadcast into about 20 communities/villages that day... for free, but for the cost of a phone call.
For a couple of hours that day, it felt like we were winning something.
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Mr. Moose is really Wilson from Home Improvement......
He is a wise fella...folks should really listen to what he has to say.
Seed
He is a wise fella...folks should really listen to what he has to say.
Seed
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I appreciate the esteem, Seed. I am flattered.
I sometimes stumble by letting my own stubborness, principles, vindication, righteous indignation, and pride reign to the point that those around me have paid indirectly in the past.
In that regard, I have at times lacked some very specific wisdom.
But thank you for your kindness.
moose eater
I sometimes stumble by letting my own stubborness, principles, vindication, righteous indignation, and pride reign to the point that those around me have paid indirectly in the past.
In that regard, I have at times lacked some very specific wisdom.
But thank you for your kindness.
moose eater
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I had a friend of mine just finish up doing over 6 years for cocaine trafficking in a federal minimum security prison. He was not allowed any electronic devices. He could watch TV at certain times, they had movies once a week, and he was allowed to read books, get subscriptions to magazines. and the like. He had no access to computers at all.
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>>>He had no access to computers at all<<<
Was there a connection to computers in his offense(s), or is this a new policy??
I can think of a number of persons who've tutored other inmates in computer use, etc., in federal correction's care.
Of the more famous folks who engaged in this generosity was Gary Fannon, of Michigan, who at 18, scored on what was then Michigan's '650 lifer law.' (Life without parole for anything over 650 grams). He taught math and computers, as well as other course work.
A fellow from my area who did 11 years on a pot bust also tutored others re. computers as well, in mostly medium security and higher facilities.
correction: Fannon wasn't doing federal time, he was doing Mich. state time.
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Was there a connection to computers in his offense(s), or is this a new policy??
I can think of a number of persons who've tutored other inmates in computer use, etc., in federal correction's care.
Of the more famous folks who engaged in this generosity was Gary Fannon, of Michigan, who at 18, scored on what was then Michigan's '650 lifer law.' (Life without parole for anything over 650 grams). He taught math and computers, as well as other course work.
A fellow from my area who did 11 years on a pot bust also tutored others re. computers as well, in mostly medium security and higher facilities.
correction: Fannon wasn't doing federal time, he was doing Mich. state time.
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life for pot omg.
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^^^Gary Fannon's offense was being a cross-town mule for some coke and failing to make proper maintenance on a vehicle; supposedly a bad tail-light caused the stop, if I recall correctly, and he was running errands for someone with more clout than himself.
He scored on their 650 lifer law, but, if memory serves me well, their laws there (in Michigan) in that regard have since been revamped to take into account such variables as 'first time oiffender' and absence of a weapon or violence in the crime..
One of the morals of his and many others' stories; if you've got contraband in the car, drive the speed limit, obey traffic laws, and replace the broken .50 cent bulbs.
Under -federal- law, I believe that the threshhold for life without parole and pot is 60,000 plants/seeds. But I could be corrected, too.
moose eater
He scored on their 650 lifer law, but, if memory serves me well, their laws there (in Michigan) in that regard have since been revamped to take into account such variables as 'first time oiffender' and absence of a weapon or violence in the crime..
One of the morals of his and many others' stories; if you've got contraband in the car, drive the speed limit, obey traffic laws, and replace the broken .50 cent bulbs.
Under -federal- law, I believe that the threshhold for life without parole and pot is 60,000 plants/seeds. But I could be corrected, too.
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Adendum; there are other ways to reach a de facto life sentence for pot under federal law as well.
The fellow from Alaska whom I referenced who did 11 years of federal time (not the fellow who we did the radio interview with, but another person) initially had over a half-dozen federal charges, to include some RICO-born stuff; operating a continuing criminal enterprise, maintenance of a premises for the purpose of..., possession, possession with intent, cultivation, laundering, conspiracy, etc.
When he was busted he had all of 18 plants. -BUT- the feds had a wire on an old 'friend' of his wherein over dinner he was heard allegedly saying that in his time in the biz, he'd grown over $$10 million in reef. -That- was the real nail in his coffin.
When you add up stuff like that and hit the grand total button, it can easily be the rest of your life.
He gave no one up. He was the -only- person in that group of 'friends' who didn't swear a statement against someone else, when all the dust had settled.
For that, he did a very real 11 years for weed.
moose eater
The fellow from Alaska whom I referenced who did 11 years of federal time (not the fellow who we did the radio interview with, but another person) initially had over a half-dozen federal charges, to include some RICO-born stuff; operating a continuing criminal enterprise, maintenance of a premises for the purpose of..., possession, possession with intent, cultivation, laundering, conspiracy, etc.
When he was busted he had all of 18 plants. -BUT- the feds had a wire on an old 'friend' of his wherein over dinner he was heard allegedly saying that in his time in the biz, he'd grown over $$10 million in reef. -That- was the real nail in his coffin.
When you add up stuff like that and hit the grand total button, it can easily be the rest of your life.
He gave no one up. He was the -only- person in that group of 'friends' who didn't swear a statement against someone else, when all the dust had settled.
For that, he did a very real 11 years for weed.
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I don't know when this policy was instituted, but his crime had nothing to do with computers. He was bartending and selling out of a bar and the owner was involved as well. It was federal because he was getting his coke in another state and transporting it across state lines. As far as I know, no one was allowed to use a computer, period. And this wasn't Max, this was minimum. Not exactly a country club like people make it out to be, though. Time is time, and it ain't pretty anywhere you do it. I know he was an addict and he needed treatment.
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