PRed and American Sativas - 2014 - OD Grow

[RandyCalifornia]

Hello all you old, tired, aching, disillusioned herbalists. Thank Jah that we have the best herb(sativa) to give us some energy.
It is from all your foresight and hard work through all these years that we even still talk of growing and enjoying these varieties. Let alone the understanding, experience and pleasure that we have gained along the way. The struggle to grow is all downhill from here, herb is being accepted as never before, fear is dissipating, the veil is being lifted and the truth is being known, the cat is out of the bag big time. We are on the verge of having many of our lifelong questions answered on this subject with all the discovery that is happening. I beg you all to stay positive and never give it up because we are leaving an impression and body of knowledge on the youths that will outlive all of us.

And if you, like I do at this point in my life, have back, knee, hip problems that ache constantly, find a way to add ground flax seed to what you eat. I have been eating flax seeds for over a year now every day and my aches that were constant have almost all gone. I tried stopping the flax for a few days and the aches returned with all their discomfort and when I resumed the ground flax they went away again. So try some it may work for you too.
Irie and by all means, ganj on and on...

 

[GreenGrocer]

11-9-14 Update

11-9-14 Update

Hi all,

I am leaving tomorrow for 10 days for my knee surgery and am taking down everything today. The Smell on the 12 Finger Oaxacan is amazing and complex... scents of turpentine, and meat very strange combo but cool.

The Big PRed Bush is all seeded and coated with Trichs...I am going to dry her and see if I cant get some hash to go with my seeds.

I have cuts going and someone who promises to come and ewater in my absence. Fingers crossed. Also have mad seeds of as many crosses as possible including Oax Red x Stash PR, OaxRed x 1974 PR, and OaxRed x WesosPR, Wesos PR x Stash PR, Wesos PR x Wesos PR, and 12-F Oax s 12-F Oax.

Bud Structure and Plant size of the 1974 is very much as I recall from my intial grow, as is Stash PRed structure and Spicy Smell. The Rootmas on Staivas makes all the difference in the end product. To get the most out of them I believe they need to grow big and deep and with lots of sun. People here who do such an amazing job with them are just better than me at it .

o now I have come as far as I can. Hope to have some smoke report when I get back. Its been fun and really appreciate all of your input. I hope this thread will be helpful to those who grow the strains.

Cuidate Charlie and Wesos and all those who helped me so so much this season. Blessings and Good Vibes- Stay in touch brothers!

GreenGrocer

Wesos PRED


Oaxacan 12-Finger

 

[GreenGrocer]

Bud Shots

Bud Shots

Oaxacan 12 Finger bud


Seeded Wesos PRed

 

[charlie garcia]

Thx Randy, life goes on and am confident more new and interesting works coming soon, cuidate pendejo

best vibes and wines GG plants looking good indeed, 12 fingers cut I grew years ago was sooo long flowering, are you growing the cross Oaxacan79 x 12 fingers or 12 fing. line itself. Nice trichs develpment in last picture too best luck and vibes bro
cuidense
kaiki

 

[Dirtboy808]

Nice GG hope the knee heals fast. Aloha DB

 

[Huesos]

Wow- nice red hair on that panama red. The 12 fingers looks tremendous as well. Gracias Hermano for the reproduction. And gracias to Hermano El Chischas for the great find.

Okay, get plenty of rest and prayers for healing and a speedy recovery.

Un Abrazo

 

[e.T]

beautiful plants GG.
healing vibes to all that need it....

oaxacan x mullum ~7wks

 

[charlie garcia]

Morning folks, hoping things went well to all in the healing game.
Here everything cut off. Half and latests Oaxacans went to november. In other side, the Oaxacan x Michoacan Spirit were harvested in middle october.
Cuidense
kaiki

Oaxaca

Oaxaca x MSpirit

 

[Huesos]

Colitas...

 

[Koondense]

Looking delicious, Charlie

I was wondering when did they start flowering if were picked in october/november?
At my latitude(45N) sativas rarely start before september and need a greenhouse to finish properly. Very hard to finish a 12+ week strain. I often feel the need to move south

 

[charlie garcia]

at around 40º is basically the same, bit more extended but depending on season, am not at sea level. Not too hard for -12 weeks ones if more or less sativa. Indicas outdoor usually should finish mid october max nor later.
GH can be a nice help here too, helps to maintain them dryer if seeds
best amigos
kaiki

 

[Koondense]

That's good info, this season I'm trying for the first time some african genes(malawi and angolaXthai) and thankfully it's still quite warm(not far above sea level, sea has 17°C), so I think they can make it in mid december.

By the way, I was very impressed with the way your Red Snakes looked, with fast, gorgeous towery colas. Is the strain available somewhere?
Did you have a chance to cross Panama and Mangobiche? I'll probably have one next season(super autoflowering version, finishes end september) but never heard anything about this cross.

Cheers

 

[charlie garcia]

That's good info, this season I'm trying for the first time some african genes(malawi and angolaXthai) and thankfully it's still quite warm(not far above sea level, sea has 17°C), so I think they can make it in mid december.

By the way, I was very impressed with the way your Red Snakes looked, with fast, gorgeous towery colas. Is the strain available somewhere?
Did you have a chance to cross Panama and Mangobiche? I'll probably have one next season(super autoflowering version, finishes end september) but never heard anything about this cross.

Cheers

Hola Koondense
sounds interesting combo, both sides have a nice rep of strong weed
Not, RS wont be released. I made several F1s with the Punto Rojo male and it seems this one is the best balanced and tasty.
Not havent tried yet the Panama/Mango. The mangobiche mom is still flowering!
best
kaiki

 

[idiit]

wonderful grow kaiki!

 

[satva]

Charlie, beautiful fresh colitas! Happy to see your Oaxacan / Mexican project developing - looks like high times ahead!

I have a question, that relates to identifying the Highland Guerrero genetics from Chimera's 1972 Highland Guerrero x Blueberry . Its difficult, for me as DJ Short's Blueberry sativa contains multiple genetics.

Does seed colors and seed marking mean anything? If so, are the seeds of your Mexicans generally light brown solid color?

I crossed one Destroyer female with two Highland Mexican x BB f2 males, one short flowering and long long flowering male. One group of seeds from the female was solid light brown and the other seed group from the same female light blond and molten.

Same thing happened in these Highland Guerrero x Blueberry f2 seeds, not sure if it shows in the photo. The two groups of seeds from the same Destroyer female are very different in appearance.


My first group of Destroyer x Highland Mexican (HT x HM - A) seedlings are happy. Some little ones smell like Zorrito / Skunk already, which I assume is a Highland Guerrero trait, (although it could be from DJ's blueberry).

Cheers from the sunny Rocky Mountain highlands.

 

[e.T]

oaxacan x mullum ~12wks

 

[Dirtboy808]

Nice ET

 

[e.T]

few more shots of my oax/mm @ 13wks. almost there...

oaxacan x mullum on the right, zamal x malawi/thai on left with nev haze x hashplant haze/ac in the foreground on the left. all under one 600w 3k sunpulse @ 11/13

 

[Mullum]

few more shots of my oax/mm @ 13wks. almost there...

these pictures have me drooling eT

forgive me if you already stated it, what is your fert regime?

 

[e.T]

few more shots of my oax/mm @ 13wks. almost there...

these pictures have me drooling eT

forgive me if you already stated it, what is your fert regime?

i build my own soil, so i don't feed anything but water....
...and a couple SSTs. easy peasy...