Potent Sativa for Outdoors at 43° N

['Boogieman']

I have a pack of Bangi Haze. I'm still considering trying either a Malawi or Zamaldelica, just one plant because I fear it won't finish. Which has better chances finishing in my climate. I checked my latitude and I'm at 41.9° north.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Boogieman - Go for it. Your experiment will help me in my future decisions. You should see my recent post in "The Search for Trip Weed". A link to it is in my signature. We are working towards the same goal.

ThaiBliss

 

[hyposomniac]

I think ypu should choose based on greatest fungus resistance.
Same latitude and fungus pressure is what ends my seasons.

 

[earthwyrms]

maybe indoor breeding of ACE zamaldelica
(Flowering indoors 11-14 weeks Flowering outdoors End of October / November)
to ciskei or king congo from tropical seeds company would help.

they are also pure sativas

Strain: Ciskei
Strain Type: Highland SouthAfrican 5th generation
Type: Regular
Flowering times: 55-65 days
Yield: High yielder indoor and outdoors
Bouquet: From pine-green apple-spicy to more fruity and citric
Effect: Sativa high, stimulating and funny
Breeder: Herbaria ( SW ), HdB ( IT ), aeros ( SP ), Garru ( SP )

Strain: King Congo
Strain Type: 100% Sativa
Type: Regular, male-female
Hybrid: Congo Pointe Noire x Ciskei Highland F2
Flowering times: 65-75 days
Yield: Mid to mid-high, performs great outdoors
Bouquet: Mainly citric together with woody-carroty
Effect: Sativa electric and cerebral high, for the sativa connoiseurs
Developed by: HdB ( IT ), aeritos ( SP )

maybe blending ACE panama in would be good too (Flowering indoors 9-12 weeks
Flowering outdoors 3rd week of October)


whoot whoot !!!

 

[baduy]

Hi I'm 43N too.
For this year outdoor I've choosen
Durban Cannabiogen
Bangi haze Ace seeds
Zamaldelica Ace seeds
Reina Madre Original Delicatessen
First lady Original Delicatessen
Lily Original Delicatessen
Manipuri The Real Seed Company
Malana S2
RM is potent but on the other side of sativa spectrum from BH, more feel good high and less electric, very enjoyable, those seeds are from a more recent batch so I hope nothing has changed, so far so good.
I grew twoZD last year and was surprised that though potent it was much less energetic than I expected so I will give it a try this year again. I'm quite confident with it because the ones I grew last year were popped 2nd half of july so they started blooming late,nonetheless I succesfully harvested my two plants last day of november with very limited mold damage (5%) This hybrid will be killed by frost long before mold will have a chance to and can take heavy autumn showers easily.
Lilly, Durban and Manipuri are a first time for me I'm very curious to see how they perform
The plan for Manipuri is to keep them in pots and benefit from the growing season to give them time to turn sexually mature which seems to take forever and probably finish indoor so that will be a spanish guerilla year for the most

 

[Dr.King]

I'm way up in Oregon at 44 lat and I'll be finishing up 18-24 week flowering plants. It's easier then people may think but then again secrets are mean't to be secrets right?

 

['Boogieman']

maybe indoor breeding of ACE zamaldelica
(Flowering indoors 11-14 weeks Flowering outdoors End of October / November)
to ciskei or king congo from tropical seeds company would help.

they are also pure sativas

Strain: Ciskei
Strain Type: Highland SouthAfrican 5th generation
Type: Regular
Flowering times: 55-65 days
Yield: High yielder indoor and outdoors
Bouquet: From pine-green apple-spicy to more fruity and citric
Effect: Sativa high, stimulating and funny
Breeder: Herbaria ( SW ), HdB ( IT ), aeros ( SP ), Garru ( SP )

Strain: King Congo
Strain Type: 100% Sativa
Type: Regular, male-female
Hybrid: Congo Pointe Noire x Ciskei Highland F2
Flowering times: 65-75 days
Yield: Mid to mid-high, performs great outdoors
Bouquet: Mainly citric together with woody-carroty
Effect: Sativa electric and cerebral high, for the sativa connoiseurs
Developed by: HdB ( IT ), aeritos ( SP )

maybe blending ACE panama in would be good too (Flowering indoors 9-12 weeks
Flowering outdoors 3rd week of October)


whoot whoot !!!

I'm going to take a look at the King Congo, I like the description on that one.

My favorite sativa high is a paranoid, slightly psychedelic high.

 

[earthwyrms]

I have a pack of Bangi Haze. I'm still considering trying either a Malawi or Zamaldelica, just one plant because I fear it won't finish. Which has better chances finishing in my climate. I checked my latitude and I'm at 41.9° north.

Panama from ACE might be a good choice.
Flowering outdoors 3rd week of October
Resistance against powder mildew: Average
Resistance against botrytis: High
Resistance against cold: Average-High
Latitude 0º-45º


Zamaldelica as well.
Flowering outdoors End of October / November
Resistance against powder mildew: High
Resistance against botrytis: Very High
Resistance against cold: Average
Latitude 0º-43º

Golden tiger
Flowering outdoors End of October / November
Resistance against powder mildew: Average
Resistance against botrytis: Very High
Resistance against cold: Average-High
Latitude 0º-43º


i'm not certain but i think there is something about cutting/clones flowering faster than normal by a couple weeks. you just reminded me of this, or i was reminded while typing this. is this with all strains?


ALSO,

I'm going to take a look at the King Congo, I like the description on that one.

My favorite sativa high is a paranoid, slightly psychedelic high.

zamaldelica and golden tiger i think fit that description

 

[NENugger]

Come on DrKing

Come on DrKing

I'm way up in Oregon at 44 lat and I'll be finishing up 18-24 week flowering plants. It's easier then people may think but then again secrets are mean't to be secrets right?

Helps us new personal growers out so we can enjoy good sativa too.

 

[48N]

I'm way up in Oregon at 44 lat and I'll be finishing up 18-24 week flowering plants. It's easier then people may think but then again secrets are mean't to be secrets right?

Such a tease…
Indoor?

 

[earthwyrms]

I'm way up in Oregon at 44 lat and I'll be finishing up 18-24 week flowering plants. It's easier then people may think but then again secrets are mean't to be secrets right?

no

 

[Zitz]

Im around 10 deg. further north than you guys, so most of the sativa's would be off the table, however in a good year most of the medium flowering nlds can finish, or almost...Ethiopian highland can do it...Thats in the ground with no help/cover.

 

[The Hatter]

It's not just how far up in latitude a place is that matters but the climate in general. For instance you could probably get away with flowering tropical sativas in the Banana islands without even needing to shelter them, yet if you tried to grow even the fastest flowering strain on earth outside on top of a land locked mountain range at that same latitude you would fail. I personally live at about a mile up in a continental mountain range so long flowering strains that should be able to finish with ease at my latitude will die in an October or November frost.

Conversely, somebody 300 hundred miles north of me directly on the pacific coast could easily grow that same strain without sheltering it. The single most important thing to watch out for is the date of the first real frost because generally that will be the final deadline unless you have a means to mitigate the cold. I think the best bet is to just look up the date of the average and earliest possible frosts where you are growing and then hedge your bets accordingly.

 

['Boogieman']

Welcome 'Boogieman',

For your taste, latitude and climate i would recommend you Bangi Haze and Tikal.
Our strongest sativas that can be finished at your latitude are Malawi fem and Zamaldelica fem, i think you can finish both there if the season/beginning of Fall is not especially bad.

Hope it helps with your doubts and thanks for your interest in our sativas.

Hey dubi, I noticed you recommend Malawi fem and Zamaldelica fem for your strongest sativas at my latitude. Why do you recommend the fem line over the regs in my situation? Are the fems more consistent from seed? Thanks for any reply.

 

[Zitz]

It's not just how far up in latitude a place is that matters but the climate in general. For instance you could probably get away with flowering tropical sativas in the Banana islands without even needing to shelter them, yet if you tried to grow even the fastest flowering strain on earth outside on top of a land locked mountain range at that same latitude you would fail. I personally live at about a mile up in a continental mountain range so long flowering strains that should be able to finish with ease at my latitude will die in an October or November frost.

Conversely, somebody 300 hundred miles north of me directly on the pacific coast could easily grow that same strain without sheltering it. The single most important thing to watch out for is the date of the first real frost because generally that will be the final deadline unless you have a means to mitigate the cold. I think the best bet is to just look up the date of the average and earliest possible frosts where you are growing and then hedge your bets accordingly.

Yes and in my case we dont usually get hard frosts till dec, its the dim, rainy autumn that can destroy a crop through mold, or at best slow the flowering rate and decrease potency.

Plants that finish in those conditions can still be surprisingly good,
but the resin is actually less sticky (more butter like).
The same strain flowered in a dry sunny autumn will have resin
that can stick your fingers together like glue.
That is genetic and pheno dependant too of course.

I imagine those poor yellow water starved plants we see in places like Morocco are a hash makers dream. Of course these days we are seeing more fully irrigated feilds of hybrid strains.

 

[The Hatter]

Yes and in my case we dont usually get hard frosts till dec, its the dim, rainy autumn that can destroy a crop through mold, or at best slow the flowering rate and decrease potency.

Plants that finish in those conditions can still be surprisingly good,
but the resin is actually less sticky (more butter like).
The same strain flowered in a dry sunny autumn will have resin
that can stick your fingers together like glue.
That is genetic and pheno dependant too of course.

I imagine those poor yellow water starved plants we see in places like Morocco are a hash makers dream. Of course these days we are seeing more fully irrigated feilds of hybrid strains.

If you don't get frost until December then that opens up a lot of options. Just stay away from anything prone to molding. Ace actually has a lot of good mold resistant strains.

 

[highsteppa]

Bangi haze is a good choice. Its the most mold resistant variety I've ever grown. It did very well in a gh with nighttime humidity around 85%. I will say that I started them in early June and they went later than I expected, around oct 15 andb the bigger Nepalese pheno wanted to go longer.

I attributed my late seeding delaying flower onset due to sexual immaturity when flowering would have started on a more mature plant. Not sure but didn't seem like an early oct finish. These were f6 or f7.

 

[dubi]

Dubi, what about queen mother for northern outdoor? I'm at 42degrees N

Im thinking QM, Lilly and Bangi haze

Welcome NENugger,

Queen Mother and Lilly are well known for being early finisher sativas.
Lilly will finish in early October at your latitude, QM during October and Bangi Haze in the first half of October too. Hope it helps.

 

[dubi]

Hey dubi, I noticed you recommend Malawi fem and Zamaldelica fem for your strongest sativas at my latitude. Why do you recommend the fem line over the regs in my situation? Are the fems more consistent from seed? Thanks for any reply.

Hi Boogieman,

Both current Malawi fem and Zamaldelica fem contain Malawi New Killer genetics which is our new generation and fast flowering killer Malawi parental plant, making these feminized versions more fast flowering in average than their standard/regular version, hence more suitable for outdoor growing at your latitude.

 

[NENugger]

Thanks Dubai,
I searched and can't find much smoke report info on queen mother. Can point me to any or provide your impression?