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Pot Shields Liver From Alcohol Damage

shithawk420

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Thanks ma. I know you don't want to talk about but you should share your knowledge about how the liver works.maybe it might help someone
 

bombadil.360

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Sorry to hijack this thread.I just want to get to the truth and maybe help and not have people think cuase they smoke cannabis that they can drink as much as they want with no negative affects.

As already stated, no one has claimed that you can drink all you want if you smoke herb, that is only what you and your mom misunderstood from not properly comprehending the OP.

Thus, neither of you two are in any position to try to find any truth or teach anything about the liver without the most basic level of reading comprehension.

Not I nor many IC members have time to humor the misconceptions of a weak willed drunk and the rants of his supposed mom.
 

Honkytonk

Member
The topic should be:
'Pot rich in CBD shields liver from alcohol damage'

And that doesn't mean one is safe from alcohol's damaging effects.
Alcohol also damages your brain, heart, pancreas, immune system, etc. and increases your chance of getting certain types of cancer by a substantial (~30%) margin.
 
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shithawk420

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Wow that was harsh bonbadil.i thought we were friends here.what makes you any authority on the subject?
 

bombadil.360

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Wow that was harsh bonbadil.i thought we were friends here.what makes you any authority on the subject?


well, last time I checked, this is not some sort of hippie commune where we are all friends holding hands and singing kumbaya; this is a forum for discussion and constructive debate about a very misunderstood and needlessly demonized plant.

If you or your moms come here to post about a subject that you have shown to have no grasp of, and then try to front by trying to show us the "truth" or "teach" us about the liver, someone, eventually, is gonna call you out on it.

don't take it personally, rather, re-read the OP slowly and carefully, focus, and hopefully you'll see none of the things you and your moms have posted here are relevant at all, and in fact, only further the obscurantism of actual knowledge about the Cannabis plant.

I'm not an authority on science at all, but at least I'm not misreading and posting ridiculous conclusions based on misunderstanding, unlike you two.
 

kmk420kali

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I didn't mean to be rude but alcohol is a powerful drug.I'm open to the possibility but every alcoholic I know that died smoked cannabis.sorry for being rude.I got nothing but respect

You are misunderstanding man--
During this time, researchers found significant evidence to suggest that the CBD compound could one day serve as a beneficial treatment for individuals at high risk for liver disease.

Nothing said smoking weed will protect your liver-- I made, what I had hoped was an obvious joke....but in the same way that CBD can shrink tumors...it is not by smoking it--
However, as the article presents, this is simply showing a correlation between CBD and Liver Fat-- This could lead to some groundbreaking medicines in the future--:tiphat:
 

dddaver

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I was always under the impression that labs in the US couldn't get any cannabis to test because it is a Schedule I narcotic. That isn't apparently true. Must be Mount Sinai School of Medicine can do things no one else can, according to the High-times magazine anyway.
 

ganja4mama

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I was always under the impression that labs in the US couldn't get any cannabis to test because it is a Schedule I narcotic. That isn't apparently true. Must be Mount Sinai School of Medicine can do things no one else can, according to the High-times magazine anyway.

This is a list of clinical trials (on human subjects) from the U.S. National Institutes of Health.

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=cannabis&recr=&rslt=&type=&cond=&intr=&titles=&outc=&spons=&lead=&id=&state1=&cntry1=NA%3AUS&state2=&cntry2=&state3=&cntry3=&locn=&gndr=&rcv_s=&rcv_e=&lup_s=&lup_e=
 

ganja4mama

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As already stated, no one has claimed that you can drink all you want if you smoke herb, that is only what you and your mom misunderstood from not properly comprehending the OP.

Thus, neither of you two are in any position to try to find any truth or teach anything about the liver without the most basic level of reading comprehension.

Not I nor many IC members have time to humor the misconceptions of a weak willed drunk and the rants of his supposed mom.

Cut the kid some slack... okay? We just lost my dad. You're right I skimmed through the post, however, being a subject in a clinical trial for liver disease, with a major drug company, I know how easy it is to skew results.
 

kmk420kali

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I was always under the impression that labs in the US couldn't get any cannabis to test because it is a Schedule I narcotic. That isn't apparently true. Must be Mount Sinai School of Medicine can do things no one else can, according to the High-times magazine anyway.

I am not sure how, but there has been many studies on cannabis in the last few years--
Lol...you seem reluctant to believe the High Times article, so it was published in the Free Radical Biology and Medicine-- I haven't been able to get the full text, but I got this--

Highlights

Cannabidiol protects mouse liver from acute alcohol-induced steatosis through multiple mechanisms.

Cannabidiol attenuates alcohol-mediated oxidative stress.

It prevents JNK MAPK activation.

It increases autophagy.


Abstract
Acute alcohol drinking induces steatosis, and effective prevention of steatosis can protect liver from progressive damage caused by alcohol. Increased oxidative stress has been reported as one mechanism underlying alcohol-induced steatosis. We evaluated whether cannabidiol, which has been reported to function as an antioxidant, can protect the liver from alcohol-generated oxidative stress-induced steatosis. Cannabidiol can prevent acute alcohol-induced liver steatosis in mice, possibly by preventing the increase in oxidative stress and the activation of the JNK MAPK pathway. Cannabidiol per se can increase autophagy both in CYP2E1-expressing HepG2 cells and in mouse liver. Importantly, cannabidiol can prevent the decrease in autophagy induced by alcohol. In conclusion, these results show that cannabidiol protects mouse liver from acute alcohol-induced steatosis through multiple mechanisms including attenuation of alcohol-mediated oxidative stress, prevention of JNK MAPK activation, and increasing autophagy.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0891584913015670

Yeah, so I guess things have been loosening up about the research of cannabis--
Peace man--:tiphat:
 

igrowone

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I was always under the impression that labs in the US couldn't get any cannabis to test because it is a Schedule I narcotic. That isn't apparently true. Must be Mount Sinai School of Medicine can do things no one else can, according to the High-times magazine anyway.

all that Mississippi weed has to go somewhere kind of like a DEA party favor, if you're in with the man, no problem
 

bombadil.360

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Cut the kid some slack... okay? We just lost my dad. You're right I skimmed through the post, however, being a subject in a clinical trial for liver disease, with a major drug company, I know how easy it is to skew results.


I'm sorry about your loss, and excuse my bluntness in the other posts.

much peace and good health to you and yours :huggg:
 

woolybear

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i think maybe the thc lines the gut or something, so the alcohol goes out your poop shute faster.

I only read page 3.
 

stoned-trout

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that would explain a lot.....being a heavy smoker and drinker surprisingly my lungs and liver are doing just fine, everything else is going wrong....peace
 
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BrnCow

One of my old school friends just died from liver damage. He was about 5 years younger than myself .He smoked almost daily until the end. The cheap booze (whiskey & beer) and hydrocodone did his liver in. Stop if you can and good luck but alcohol and government drugs (pills) are going to cut your life short as that is what they are manufactured to do...
 

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