'Pot 2.0':U.S. marijuana growing stronger

[Sunset]

if ya have some time to waste. I have been posting/blogging on a thread at a newspaper about this. It is quite fun. The mis information being said is almost funny. Even has a fella from Law Enforcement Against Probihition putting his 2 cents in.
www.kcstar.com,
scroll down & see the "Crime Scene blog"

 

[trem0lo]

if ya have some time to waste. I have been posting/blogging on a thread at a newspaper about this. It is quite fun. The mis information being said is almost funny. Even has a fella from Law Enforcement Against Probihition putting his 2 cents in.
www.kcstar.com,
scroll down & see the "Crime Scene blog"

Nice, thanks for the link. I love spreading the TRUTH, even if it affects just a few people.

 

[muddy waters]

Damn man, ya beat me to it, I just read that on CNN. Talk about a total load of horseshit, and from CNN, no less.

CNN might as well list itself as a fucking stable on its 1040, because it produces nothing but horseshit.

corporate news=about 80-90% propaganda. cnn and fox news are just (slightly) different flavors of the same turd

 

[Guest]

Geez...what fucking nonsense.

I first smoked weed in 1966(age 18. I got a late start)...so I guess I have smoked it long enough to know just a bit it.

The shit we got then wasn't very good, but it had nothing to do with the weed itself...just the way it grown and was handled. Dried out, seedy shit that came in trash compacted bales.

Anyway, I smoked some weed in the Philippines in 1970 that knocked my sox off. I was on 1st Viet Nam deployment then. My "girlfriend" used to get great weed. First time I smoked it, I didn't move out of the chair I was sitting in for what seemed like fucking HOURS LOLOL! It was every bit as good as the weed I am smoking as I type this.

These bullshit stories will continue in the media. I just hope Norml will counter them when they can.

Check out my AI and Ice ladies

 

[smoke_tayo]

oblidio49, great to hear that you enjoyed the fine marijuana of the philippines! where were you stationed? in clark? i grew up in the philippines and while there's quite a bit of crap weed, there's definitely great stuff to be found thats been cultivated in the mountains for decades. sadly, the good stuff is getting harder and harder to find. i got some seeds last time i visited and will be starting them up as soon as i get enough headroom. i'm sure they're going to stretch like crazy, but they'll be a fun project.

 

[_angst_]

Since when was a chemically induced panic attack a Medical Emergency?

 

[Lune TNS]

Weed's getting stronger? Since when is that a bad thing?

Seriously though, I guess my expectations were too high but I didn't expect to see that on CNN.

 

[Guest]

Its all true!And ther's only 4 million of us out here lol.There are 25 million in this country lady..

 

[clorox]

i cant wait for versions 4.20!

 

[Guest]

Remember the columbian gold in the mid 70s obli?I cant grow anything that makes me see trails and patterns,and god knows I've tried.

 

[nycdfan042]

pot is stronger..because of bean counter, Hill temple collective, and reservoir and shanti...those four reasons .... but i do agree that the pure land race sativas in the 70's prolly tasted as good or better than anything out right now

 

[clorox]

Remember the columbian gold in the mid 70s obli?I cant grow anything that makes me see trails and patterns,and god knows I've tried.

i think a look into mycology might help ya out lol

 

[treble]

I dont think its anymore potent than it was 20 years ago and in fact I think on average its not as stong.. on the street that is. they pushing that same bullshit all over the planet atm. I seen it everywhere... its a crock. I dont think they like pot because it helps people see through their shit... breaks the program if you like.. wakes you up to whats going on...

thats my take.
treb

 

[Guest]

Remember the columbian gold in the mid 70s obli?I cant grow anything that makes me see trails and patterns,and god knows I've tried.

It's nearly 8AM and I have to get to work. Been away all weekend with g/f.'
Yeah I remember Columbian Gold...or what we were sold as CG. It was good but seedy as a rule. Very Sativa type high though for the really good weed we got in my social circles back then. I remember riding to concerts and just being really FUCKED UP on that weed. I lived on East Coast back then.

I'll say more about the PI too. I was over there twice. 1970 and in 1972-3. I had a great time

Later in 8-9 hours

Obli

 

[Guest]

"It clearly is addictive," she said.

No evidence to support addiction, numerous studies state otherwise INCLUDING some the very first government studies done on cannabis, and many since then. Remember, Nixon ignored a committee he formed to look at the addictive or dangerous properties of cannabis when they reported there were none and continued to propagate the drug war as we know it today in DIRECT contradiction to scientific evidence.

Just because this doctors chooses to label cannabis "clearly addictive" does not make it so. No matter how many more doctors, drug warriors, and reports wish to "underscore" that.

If children and adolescents use marijuana, it could affect their still-developing brains, she said.

No evidence to support addiction, numerous studies state otherwise. What a disgrace to professional practitioners of medicine and science everywhere.



It could cause you to go blind just looking at it, but it doesn't.

According to the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Adminstration, marijuana was involved in 242,200 visits to hospital emergency rooms in 2005. This means that the patient mentioned using marijuana and does not mean the drug directly caused the accident or condition being treated, SAMHSA says.

Of course they left that out. The number of hospital visits involving humans is rising, but that doesn't mean cannabis caused it and yet AGAIN no evidence to support what they infer. No proof cannabis has caused an increase in ER visits.

Dr. Nora Volkow, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, fears the problem is not being taken seriously because many adults remember the marijuana of their youth as harmless.

"It's really not the same type of marijuana," Volkow said in a telephone interview.

"This could explain why there has been an increase in the number of medical emergencies involving marijuana."

It could explain the increase in Dorito sales, but again, no evidence has been shown to support this, or the so-called "doctor's" claims.

"Researchers and treatment experts have argued for some time that today's more powerful marijuana has more harmful effects on users. This report underscores that we are no longer talking about the drug of the 1960s and 1970s -- this is Pot 2.0," John Walters, director of National Drug Control Policy, said in a statement.

Yes, you have argued and underscored many times, but you have still to this date failed to bring any real evidence to support this "theory". More people spouting the same misinformation does not make it more true than it was last time we heard it. All of the junk samples of cannabis they have from the seventies do not coincide with the evidence provided by FIRST HAND users from that period.

There is of course the issue with the fact that if potency had increased the hundreds of times over that they have purported it to the market for cannabis would actually decrease. The increase in demand isn't enough to keep up with an increase in potency like they try to portray.

The FACT is people can still only take so much before they stop smoking on their own. When it's more potent, less is consumed. This is scientific fact that is indisputable. If it's stronger, people are smoking less which is actually better for the health of their lungs, which has never killed a cannabis smoker in 10,000 years of history anyway.

The report said more than 60 percent of teens receiving treatment for drug abuse or dependence report marijuana as their primary drug of abuse.

Although the overall number of young people using marijuana has declined in recent years, there is still reason for great concern, particularly since roughly 60 percent of first-time marijuana users are under 18 years old," Volkow said.

First, since teen use is declining, what's the problem? Isn't that what they are after?

Second, the "reason for concern" is the fact that cannabis often opens young minds before they can be indoctrinated to the system. It's the key to the lock of enlightenment and they know that. Peaceful happy people interested more in spirituality and the environment are not conducive to a fascist capitalist society.

These two statements put together in a very crafty manner. The first statement that 60% report cannabis as their primary drug is their way of inferring that cannabis is again a "gateway" drug and that almost everyone who is young and trying drugs is starting with this supposed "gateway".

You can not use one person's assumptions, beliefs, theories, and ideas to support an argument. Even if the person is a doctor, and even if they work for the National Institute on Drug Abuse. The fact this "doctor" DIRECTLY earns a living off of the drug war, makes her credibility non existent and any hope of objectivity a conflict of interest.

Nice try feds, but no go.

 

[Guest]

This is just another examble of :

If the gov't tells the lie long enough and loud enough, then most dumb ass people will accept it is truth and as a fact.​

Too bad the media doesn't give pot the same scrutiny it does Iraq or GWB.

 

[gnosis]

An official European study (see link below) examined the question: has cannabis potency raised over recent times.

Their conclusion: not much, except in the USA were average "herbal cannabis" potency was low in the 80s, "by European standards", and it has been catching up.

They also note that the more recent and intense market of hydro Cannabis actually only "modestly" increased the potency of the product, but that the product is of "a consistently high potency" (not sure if its confusing: they found that the hydro cannabis isn't much stronger than the good cannabis of the past, but hydro [or more generally indoor] is more regular in goodness).

http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/index.c...tachmentDownload&nNodeID=2950&slanguageISO=EN (see pages 59/60 for the related conclusion)