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Popping 100 beans made from a Male hermie

grod31

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The male in this project was a large Iron Cindy a week or so after being used to knock up 5 differnt plants I noticed he started to put out some hairs. Eventually becoming a full on budding female.
E.C.D.O.G = (white widow x ak47) x( original glue x triple OG) * No feminized genes
Both the HarlemShuffle and Liberty Haze used were feminized.
Liberty City X Iron Cindy (sat dom) 18 seeds
Liberty city X iron Cindy (fat bud) 18 seeds
E.C.D.O.G. X Iron Cindy (sat dom) 18 seeds
E.C.D.O.G X Iron Cindy ( red bud) 18 seeds
Harlem shuffle X Iron Cindy (penny pincher /944) 36 seeds ( If anyone is interested in these please send me a message)*

I decided to pop a portion of each to see what the outcome would be.
Seeds soaked in shot glasses of rainwater on a heat mat for 15 hours. Many popped while sowing.
There are 3 differnt size pots from .5 to .8 gallons. But when filled properly they hold as much as a 1 gallon bucket.
-Water with 6.2 phd mix* of Fulvic acid, Nectar for the Gods Demeter's destiny, Fox farms big bloom, Orca premium mycorrhizae ( 2 Oz twice) (0,0.5,0.7)
Atm they are under 250 watt HPS. After sex is know they will get 400 watt HPS+ supplemental LED. Will flip 12/12 in 12 days. All strains need 12-14 weeks. Just in time to start my summer grow.
Any guesses on the hermie outcome?
 

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igrowone

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subbing in for my front row seat
as for the sex outcomes, I'd be lying if I said I had a good idea, could see anything
 
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oldmaninbc

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The male in this project was a large Iron Cindy a week or so after being used to knock up 5 differnt plants I noticed he started to put out some hairs. Eventually becoming a full on budding female.
E.C.D.O.G = (white widow x ak47) x( original glue x triple OG) * No feminized genes
Both the HarlemShuffle and Liberty Haze used were feminized.
Liberty City X Iron Cindy (sat dom) 18 seeds
Liberty city X iron Cindy (fat bud) 18 seeds
E.C.D.O.G. X Iron Cindy (sat dom) 18 seeds
E.C.D.O.G X Iron Cindy ( red bud) 18 seeds
Harlem shuffle X Iron Cindy (penny pincher /944) 36 seeds ( If anyone is interested in these please send me a message)*

I decided to pop a large portion f each to see what the outcome would be.
Seeds soaked in shot glasses of rainwater on a heat mat for 15 hours. Many popped while sowing.
There are 3 differnt size pots from .5 to .8 gallons. But when filled properly they hold as much as a 1 gallon bucket.
- Loose fill containers with pro-mix and pack down
-Water with 6.2 phd mix* of Fulvic acid, Nectar for the Gods Demeter's destiny, Fox farms big bloom, Orca premium mycorrhizae ( 2 Oz twice) (0,0.5,0.7)
-tamp 1 inch hole down center with pvc pipe
- sprinkle dry mycorrhizae and Jonathan Green love your soil
-fill core with worm casting/ verm, mycorrhizae (50/50)
-cover with pro mix
-.75-1 0z Organic fert added ( half inch layer)
- covered with worm casings/ verm/ promix (80/5/15) (1"+)
-covered with promix
-covered with .5"-1" vermiculite
-watered in with above water mix*
-cover with worm casting pro mix verm(44/44/22)
- Covered with promix.

Atm they are under 250 watt HPS. After sex is know they will get 400 watt HPS+ supplemental LED. Will flip 12/12 in 12 days. All strains need 12-14 weeks. Just in time to start my summer grow.
Any guesses on the hermie outcome?
I've seen a number of female plants show the opposite sex but not males, I am interested in this outcome.
 

potentgarden

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I'm guessing theres a chance the male was actually XXXY and showed balls early before settling into a female expression, but can you test for this at all?
 

grod31

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So I vegged for a week on 20 hours. Then i flipped to 12/12. Yesterday was adding additional lighting and didn't realize the additional timer wasn't set properly.The ladies got 24 hours of light after more than a week of 12/12.
Maybe this is a good herm stress test? What do you think that did?
 
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Well if you’re looking to sus out the hermie genes then by all means yes, and repeat it again in a week or so.
 

oldmaninbc

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So I vegged for a week on 20 hours. Then i flipped to 12/12. Yesterday was adding additional lighting and didn't realize the additional timer wasn't set properly.The ladies got 24 hours of light after more than a week of 12/12.
Maybe this is a good herm stress test? What do you think that did?
I had a similar occurrence with lighting and nothing noticeable happened. Different gardens could mean different results.
 

Redrum92

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Super interested in this. Don't have the space myself to experiment... and you're running 100? My hero. This will be a great contribution to cannabis knowledge
 

grod31

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Totally not hero status.I am suffering and so are the plans. This is ridiculous lol . I DO NOT recommend this indoors in a 4x4 tent. I have only found 6 early males but they are all bolting so within the next few days they will all show. I'm not keeping the males to see if they hermie. Atleast not all of them to see percentage. Maybe just one winner.
 

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grod31

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So i'm a few weeks in now.
From the 108 herm seeds planted a staggering amount were males. More than 50%. I culled a bunch of weak plants but only have 33 females.
So far, I have not found a herm.
just realized i never posted a pic of the male used.
 

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Marz

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Interesting. I'm on bagseeds now, same pattern. Had 5 seeds, 1 died, 2 males, 1 male hermie. I'm running a female which hermied at flowering week 5 around 50 seeds.
By these numbers and yours, ~30% of chances for female seeds, good to know what to expect.
 
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@grod31 I truly love the chaos in that tent, mate. Im sure something interesting will come of it.
 

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