PLL Club. (if you don't know, now you know)

[Boleman]

I started this club as Melkor 420, and ill finish it as Boleman!

I started this club as Melkor 420, and ill finish it as Boleman!



I just built this easy to do Pl-l tent for the perceptual to my larger CMH tent. Let the games begin.

 

[Boleman]

 

[Boleman]

Boleman 15x15x49 sump sneak peek!

Boleman 15x15x49 sump sneak peek!

Check it!

 

[Boleman]

Cloned my Northern lights mother to the PL-l perpetual tent!

Cloned my Northern lights mother to the PL-l perpetual tent!

 

[Cork144]

never got around to growing with them, but always wanted too, always wondered how positioning the bulb would work out, as surely your losing nearly 50% of the PLLs surface area if you have them flat face to the plant;

 

[Boleman]

Light tube angles.

Light tube angles.

never got around to growing with them, but always wanted too, always wondered how positioning the bulb would work out, as surely your losing nearly 50% of the PLLs surface area if you have them flat face to the plant;

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Truely 47degree angles would be optimal about 6" from the roof, but with twin tubes I just add more tubes later... Vertically from mid cab to roof for flower. This is just a Veg tent though.

My clones northern lights has rooted in my Perpetual Pl-L tent!

 

[Boleman]

One of my light systems is on the fritz! Help!

One of my light systems is on the fritz! Help!

I have rewired my ballast 6 times and it still blinks but won't come on! Aaugh!

I must be forgetting something silly, but I do not know what!

 

[Boleman]

A bad socket can wreck your day!

A bad socket can wreck your day!

I have rewired my ballast 6 times and it still blinks but won't come on! Aaugh!

I must be forgetting something silly, but I do not know what!

The cause of this problem was wore out old 4pin sockets. I bought new ones, and they should be here soon. The girls have roots... Will post pics when lights are back on.

 

[maree]

Keep it going Boleman - there's a lot of us still rockin' the PLL's.

 

[Boleman]

Keep it going Boleman - there's a lot of us still rockin' the PLL's.

No problems, the plants in the Pl-L tent are rooting like gangbusters! It's going to be it's own tent I think. The plants only have 48watts of light right now and are just fine... I am also building up 2 more ballasts for 4 lights in veg and 8 in flower, once I get my 2g11 sockets which are 5 times as expensive since I started growing with them! LOL! I am so happy with the small tent, I built its own album. I still don't know why all my pics upload sideways, but here you go... The Show in the Pl-L 15x15" tent!

 

[Boleman]

The cause of this problem was wore out old 4pin sockets. I bought new ones, and they should be here soon. The girls have roots... Will post pics when lights are back on.

The cause is not sockets, or ballasts! I was totally wrong. Plug em in, blinks but they don't stay on. Got new ballasts, and sockets but still blinks 3 or 4 times, then go off. At least the plants are doing real good!

 

[maree]

Still puzzling you then Boleman? The blinking lights I mean? Hav ethis problem with one of my ballasts and narrowed it down to using too thick a wire to cconnect it to the 2g11's. That little extra just prevented it from snapping into the connectot on the ballast nicely. Wierd cos the same wire causes no problems with my other ballasts, one of which is for the same wattage but an older, slightly differently design (though they're all Osram Quicktronic) nor even in the other connector sockets on the same ballast - only in the live slot. Eventually solved it not by changing the wire but just making sure that it's positioned to run down into the connector so as not to exert any pull on it. Bit of insulation tape around it to hold it in place and bob's yer uncle.

Your problem is probably different so this is just me gassing!

 

[Boleman]

Still puzzling you then Boleman? The blinking lights I mean? Hav ethis problem with one of my ballasts and narrowed it down to using too thick a wire to cconnect it to the 2g11's. That little extra just prevented it from snapping into the connectot on the ballast nicely. Wierd cos the same wire causes no problems with my other ballasts, one of which is for the same wattage but an older, slightly differently design (though they're all Osram Quicktronic) nor even in the other connector sockets on the same ballast - only in the live slot. Eventually solved it not by changing the wire but just making sure that it's positioned to run down into the connector so as not to exert any pull on it. Bit of insulation tape around it to hold it in place and bob's yer uncle.

Your problem is probably different so this is just me gassing!

Thank you so much. I pulled full yard on this one. After buying new ballasts, sockets, wire and plug ends... My Fiancee informed me that I'm not putting a wire in each post hole in the socket... I was only using the duplexes on each side! LOL, pics soon! Anyway... It's gonna be sick now! Thank you for the helpfull advice!

 

[Boleman]

Wrong and Right Socket wiring for 2g11 Pl-L sockets

Wrong and Right Socket wiring for 2g11 Pl-L sockets

Wrong:



Right:

 

[Boleman]

Yay, just got done building my second perpetual

Yay, just got done building my second perpetual

4 - 24Watt Pl-L 5600k bulbs
1 - 15" x 15" x 49"High Gl40 Growlab tent



Which Autoflower strain would you like to see?

 

[maree]

Glad you got it sorted mate - and your intended is on hand to help you out!

 

[optimizer]

spectrum question

spectrum question

this is probably more of a general grow question, but i'm planning on using PL-L's, so it sorta works. i want to use 3 55w lamps. initially i was thinking 3 6500k lamps for veg and then switch to 3 2700k (or 3000k, depending on what i can find) for flower. is this the way to go, or would a mixture of spectrums be better?

 

[Pinball Wizard]

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[maree]

this is probably more of a general grow question, but i'm planning on using PL-L's, so it sorta works. i want to use 3 55w lamps. initially i was thinking 3 6500k lamps for veg and then switch to 3 2700k (or 3000k, depending on what i can find) for flower. is this the way to go, or would a mixture of spectrums be better?

Boleman will probably know better but my personal preference is to mix spectrums at all times (unless you have a seperate cuttings cupboard then maybe just go for an 865). After all, sunlight is full spectrum and the poor plants grow up in a warped enough environment as it is without depriving them of a full range of light.

As an aside, whilst the early LED lamps used the limited set of wavelngth values most necessary for photosynthesis, the general consensus now seems to be that broad spectrum cobs are better. Of course, fluorescents have a broad spectrum coverage anyway so the issue is not quite so attentuated as it was with LEDs.

So, for those two Kelvin vlaues I'd have two 6500K and one 2700/3000K for veg and vice versa for flowering. Of course, you could always go for one lamp fpr seedliings/cuttings, two lamps for veg and then use three for flowering. Save yourself a little bit of leccy - though for us micro growers, it may not be a concern.

 

[Dropped Cat]

PL-Ls have more penetration than I ever would have expected, and if you keep them too close to the plants, you wind up with these squat little bushes with internodes so tight that it actually makes the eventual LSTing or scrogging more difficult.

Yup

Go figure.