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Please IP ban or perma ban rude individuals

Mr Celsius

I am patient with stupidity but not with those who
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as I've said before we don't use IP Bans except to ban some spam sites
as we don't collect or store IP's so we can't use them to ban people so its a mute point

Moot point... I don't think so. You don't have to store the average users IP address on your servers. Just people you've banned.

You obviously have session information temporarily stored on the server, so anyone with the inclination to do so, could find out the IP address of ICMag members anyways. This site does not provide an encrypted connection, any organization or person can view the session data, including user names and passwords.

The only case of our IP addresses being stored being a threat, is if ICMags servers are confiscated by the appropriate law enforcement.

Unfortunately, Vbulletin does not appear to have support for MAC address banning... so that option doesn't seem to work.

I'll let resting dogs lie on this subject. Its a shame... but desire is the cause of suffering, so I'll let it go.

FYI, I don't personally care if my IP address were stored on the server.
 

Nicoli

Active member
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Unfortunately, Vbulletin does not appear to have support for MAC address banning... so that option doesn't seem to work.

LOL. What forum software allows MAC address banning?

You don't seem to even know much about what you're talking about.

MAC addresses are LAN hardware addresses, not IP addresses.
 

Mr Celsius

I am patient with stupidity but not with those who
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LOL. What forum software allows MAC address banning?

You don't seem to even know much about what you're talking about.

MAC addresses are LAN hardware addresses, not IP addresses.

There has been requests in the vbulletin community for mac address banning. Nothing has happened of day.

As for what I know and don't know... well you don't know.

Yes MAC address are LAN hardware addresses on the link layer. However, it is possible to ban via MAC address. If you're interested, I suggest googling it and looking for yourself. One would need a capable programmer. Every wondered how many large game companies ban via MAC address?

Yes, MAC address spoofing is possible.

Also, I recall all the rude things you said to us in the autoflower forums and the loving (sarcasm) things you posted on my profile. Quite a good example of our conversation... they only temp banned you :(
 

El Toker

Member
as I've said before we don't use IP Bans except to ban some spam sites
as we don't collect or store IP's so we can't use them to ban people so its a mute point

Props for not storing our IPs, and as you point out after that the whole banning thing becomes a moot point.
 

JJScorpio

Thunderstruck
ICMag Donor
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There are so many proxys that it wouldn't make any sense to start banning IP's even if we wanted to. Most trolls already have one because they get banned from so many sites.

We do save all of the binned posts as a reference and believe it or not it is very easy to pick up on troll handles from people that have been banned numerous times. We realize trolls are an inconvenience but banning their IP's would do very little, if anything to stop them. The only way to get rid of them is for the mods to stay on top of the new handles that show up every day and get rid of them when they return..... We also do get a lot of help spotting them from the members here and we thank everyone for the help.....
 

Anti

Sorcerer's Apprentice
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I use someone else IP.....with this sucker I get a list of a almost a hundred different wifi networks I can join.


http://www.cantenna.com/:dance013:


Your link is down, but I'm familiar with those.

I used to have a modified Wok-Fi setup before I had internet service in my house. For a couple of years I surfed the net daily by locking into whatever household forgot to put a WEP on their wifi. Most people in my area have gotten a little smarter about security, so I can still see tons of wifi connections, I just can't get on 'em.
 
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fizzbomb

Hi Mr C, its just when you said "This site does not provide an encrypted connection," im pretty sure it does m8, thats why you got the S at the end of http which mean the data going back and forth is encrypted, not 100% sure thats the case but 99.9 Mr C, just make sure it got the S at the end of the http Mr C.
 
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fizzbomb

hi Mr C, lots of good info in here, just thought I would post it up and you can have a look m8. very good read.

SSL and Internet security First of all, this is not my post, I asked for permission if it would be ok to post this info here as im sure it would help a lot of people, like me, and the person that wrote the thread said it was fine, so here it is.

I decided to write this rough guide to try and explain the basics of internet security, ssl (what it does for you, and also what it doesnt do), and basically some good practices that we should all be using to remain as annonymous as possible when viewing sites like this. I'm sure that a lot of people here already have a fair idea what they should and shouldnt be doing, but likewise, there are probably some who have no idea, so this guide is mainly aimed at these people.

First off, I will start with SSL. What exactly is it?

SSL stands for secure sockets layer. It is an internet protocol just like http, but unlike http, all of your data is encrypted on your end before it is transmitted across the internet. It is then decrypted at the destination server so it can be understood. Likewise, all information transmitted from the server you are connected to is also encrypted and then decrypted by your computer before you view the page in your browser.

Why is this important, you say? Well, to answer that question, I will first explain how data is transmitted across the internet.

When you type the url of a website into your browser and hit go, your computer does a lot of work behind the scenes that few people understand. A url means nothing to your computer.. it first has to figure out the server that the website resides on. To do this, it makes a connection to your ISP's nameservers, and asks the nameserver what the IP of the url you are requesting is. The nameserver sends the IP back to you.

Once your browser knows the IP of the server you are trying to connect to, it can establish a connection with the server so you can send and receive information to/from it. But, becuase your computer does not have a direct cable connecting you to the destination server, it must go though several other servers on its way to its final destination. Lets say you are in the US and are trying to connect to a website located on a server in china. First, your data is sent to your ISPs servers to which you have a direct connection (your broadband connection). Your ISP then sends it through a high speed connection to another server which is closer to the destination server, and then another and another etc etc, until it finally gets to where it is going. Each server that your data has to go through is called a "hop". At each hop in the route, the information that is passing through it is freely viewable by anyone who may be interested. It is not encrypted and they can see exactly what you are sending/receiving. In many cases, these hops may keep logs of this data for use in the future. That includes usernames, passwords, emails and other sensitive data you may be sending. Likewise, any information coming back to you from the server can also be viewed at these "hops".

What ssl does, it encrypts your data before it is transmitted through the route, so even if someone tried to see what you were sending, they would be unable to read it, becuase only the server you are sending it to knows how to decrypt it. However, while ssl will protect the data you are transmitting, it is not a one way ticket to internet annonymity, becuase the name of the website you are sending the data to will still be clearly visible to your ISP and to the hops that it is passing through.

That may be a lot to digest, so take a break, read it again, have a toke, and we will continue in 5.....

So how do I protect my online identity you ask? Well.. that depends on how annonymous you really want to be, and how much inconvienience you are willing to tolerate. I could give you an extensive guide that would ensure that nobody but the top levels of government would be able to crack, but for the majority, it is pretty simple...

USE TOR and SSL!!

Tor (the onion router - torproject.com) is a system that takes your data, encrypts it, and sends it through several servers, before it begins the journey I described above. This hides your IP from the destination server, and prevents any snoppers from seeing where your data is going. TOR is a great solution, but it is not without its flaws, but for the majority here, I dont think I need to into that. And anyway, if you are using SSL, then this overcomes the only security hole in TOR.

If you want to learn more about how TOR works, you can read the wiki article, or you can read the overview on the tor website.. it has pictures!

To get TOR working, all you have to do is download it from here and install it. Once you have installed the bundle, you will have to configure your browser to use TOR instead of your actual internet connection. I will explain how to do this in firefox (using the privoxy proxy server). Simply click Tools|Options|Advanced|Network|Settings. Click the "Manual manual proxy configuration" option, and in the HTTP Proxy box, type 127.0.0.1, and in the port box type 8118. Then select "Use this proxy server for all protocols". Click ok, and you are done.

There is an easier way to switch tor on an off though, if you are using firefox (which you should be ). There is an extension called "Torbutton" that allows you to toggle it with a single click. You can find the torbutton extension here. I think it also comes with the installer on the TOR website, but for some reason it does not install properly for me that way.

Another thing that everyone should do is to change the nameservers that your computer uses to look up IP addresses. As I explained already, your computer queries your ISPs nameservers for the IP of the URL you are requesting, so even if you use tor, your ISP will still know the site you are trying to view. There is a simple solution for those who are using firefox... there is an option in the firefox configuration that allows you to change where you do these lookups...

In a new window, type "about:config" (without the quotes) and type "network.proxy.socks_remote_dns" into the filter box. If it is set to false, double click it to set it to true. What this does is instead of using your ISPs nameservers, it reroutes the DNS lookup request through the proxy that you are using (i.e. TOR) so you ISP has no idea what website you are viewing.

Well, I think that covers most of the basics, but it is by no means a concise guide to annonimity.

This is where you can download tor from. www.torproject.org/download.html.en
 

Mr Celsius

I am patient with stupidity but not with those who
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Hi Mr C, its just when you said "This site does not provide an encrypted connection," im pretty sure it does m8, thats why you got the S at the end of http which mean the data going back and forth is encrypted, not 100% sure thats the case but 99.9 Mr C, just make sure it got the S at the end of the http Mr C.

It does have the https, and yes I'm familiar with secure socket layer, among other protocols. Except, sometimes, you only get a partial encryption. Notice the little lock at the bottom right hand screen (if using firefox)? If it has a red exclamation point, you only have a partial encryption. Some of the packets are not encoded and viewable.

Also, Tor is a very good way to get your computer hacked, as it works my like a Peer to peer network, anyone on the network can have access to your computer. Its free... yes, which is nice; but, generally better to use a paid server for proxy. I personally use nothing... but I'm 100% legal and not on anyones radar.
 
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DiscoBiscuit

weed fiend
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Notice the little lock at the bottom right hand screen (if using firefox)? If it has a red exclamation point, you only have a partial encryption. Some of the packets are not encoded and viewable.

It actually means unauthenticated content. IC Mag's authentication certificate is out of date.
 
The only way to get rid of trolls is by ignoring them. You are feeding the trolls just by making this thread showing how much they get to you. The only way to win a troll war is by not participating.

Stop being a pansy, grow a set and learn to laugh it off. Otherwise, you should be the one leaving as you obviously aren't fit for the innernets.
 
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