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please help me find my ideal strain
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Bob Green
Maybe Fighting Buddha from Chimera? A nice Burmese crossed with a word class Blueberry could do the trick.
i used to get bright green, fluffy soft buds with a tropical fruity smell from that gave me a real bright, clear and happy kind of high
What can you tell us about the genetics in the strain you liked?
Guava/lemon/floral terpenes are clear, bright, and pleasurable.
Destroyer smells of spearmint growing, then sage/leather in the jars, initial vapor is Guava/Lemon. Destroyer's Highland Meao Thai dominate phenotypes have a clear, bright and pleasurable high. 15 - 16 weeks. Destroyer high is soaring, and strong.
Exploring Highland Thailand genetics also know as Hmong Thai, or Highland Meao Thai - + 16 weeks should yield phenotypes with clear, bright and happy high. Pure Thailand or pure Colombian genetics typically flower longer than 16 weeks.
If you can find a blueberry sativa phenotype, DJ short crossed [(1975 Highland Oaxacan Gold / Chocolate Thai x Afghani) x (Highland Thailand x Afghani)] Oaxacan and Highland Thai should be clear, bright, and happy, and Chocolate Thai more dreamy and euphoric. I like the combination of Thailand and Mexican genetics for clear, bright and happy.
Isolating a short flowering Oaxacan phenotype in DJ shorts's Flo or Cannabiogen's Mextiza flowering times are in your range. I haven't smoke either one. Mextiza utilizes Highland Nepalese genetics to reduce the flowering time without utilizing Afghani genetics. Agree with Mustafunk, a little Afghani creates a heavy comedown / after glow.
I remember Highland Nepalese Temple hash had a nice, clear and happy high. Highland Nepalese x Thailand or Highland Thailand x Highland Nepalese might work as a breeding concept to shorten the flowering time of Thailand genetics most of which would be happy flowering perpetually.............
The Thai dominate Mango Haze is fruity, floral on the plant, and the vapor smells of Guava/Lemon ~ 17 weeks. Kinder, softer, milder, less souring high than Destroyer (Hmong Thai dominate). Not easy to find the Thai dominate phenotype and even a trace of Afghani genetics, results in a heavy after effect.
PS> MostlyMe's tent is clear, bright and happy > high times ahead - only time will tell which genetics are his favorite.
PPS> Next up... Punto Rojo and Colombian Gold x Cinderella 99 ---day one, and counting ,<lol> ..............
What can you tell us about the genetics in the strain you liked?
Guava/lemon/floral terpenes are clear, bright, and pleasurable.
Destroyer smells of spearmint growing, then sage/leather in the jars, initial vapor is Guava/Lemon. Destroyer's Highland Meao Thai dominate phenotypes have a clear, bright and pleasurable high. 15 - 16 weeks. Destroyer high is soaring, and strong.
Exploring Highland Thailand genetics also know as Hmong Thai, or Highland Meao Thai - + 16 weeks should yield phenotypes with clear, bright and happy high. Pure Thailand or pure Colombian genetics typically flower longer than 16 weeks.
If you can find a blueberry sativa phenotype, DJ short crossed [(1975 Highland Oaxacan Gold / Chocolate Thai x Afghani) x (Highland Thailand x Afghani)] Oaxacan and Highland Thai should be clear, bright, and happy, and Chocolate Thai more dreamy and euphoric. I like the combination of Thailand and Mexican genetics for clear, bright and happy.
Isolating a short flowering Oaxacan phenotype in DJ shorts's Flo or Cannabiogen's Mextiza flowering times are in your range. I haven't smoke either one. Mextiza utilizes Highland Nepalese genetics to reduce the flowering time without utilizing Afghani genetics. Agree with Mustafunk, a little Afghani creates a heavy comedown / after glow.
I remember Highland Nepalese Temple hash had a nice, clear and happy high. Highland Nepalese x Thailand or Highland Thailand x Highland Nepalese might work as a breeding concept to shorten the flowering time of Thailand genetics most of which would be happy flowering perpetually.............
The Thai dominate Mango Haze is fruity, floral on the plant, and the vapor smells of Guava/Lemon ~ 17 weeks. Kinder, softer, milder, less souring high than Destroyer (Hmong Thai dominate). Not easy to find the Thai dominate phenotype and even a trace of Afghani genetics, results in a heavy after effect.
PS> MostlyMe's tent is clear, bright and happy > high times ahead - only time will tell which genetics are his favorite.
PPS> Next up... Punto Rojo and Colombian Gold x Cinderella 99 ---day one, and counting ,<lol> ..............
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Great thread and good points...I agree that the "kind" is becoming rarer in the the pursuit of high potency. Not saying kind bud is weak, just irie and not antagonistic. Take chem d for example; rates high in many aspects and quite potent, but imo a rude buzz with a 2x4 wack in the head and jumpy thougt provoking....damn near almost wrecked my ski yesterday! (Prob could have smoked less of it lol)
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sourpuss
Almost forgot about somas nycd.... grapefruit pheno...
100 percent indica sativa doesnt matter... its the breeders selection.....
100 percent indica sativa doesnt matter... its the breeders selection.....
High times ahead indeed!
But they need too long for OP I suspect. Although these tropical sativas sometimes do remarkably well in colder climates. He needs something with reduced flowering times, without - as mentioned by Musta and Satva - ruining the sativa essence. Those strains are not so mainstream.Totally forgot to mention I had the same experience with Panama. I call it my perfect indica
Croissant
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No sweet tooth doesn't fit the bill he is looking for and in my opinion is overtated. Sweet tooths high is kind of flat and lacks complexity.
Satva those fruity buds I talked about didn't have a name but they smelled kind of like fruit juice bubblegum. Appearently the guy had 3 phenos as keepers I got it a couple steps removed.
Flo might be a safe bet. The thing about blueberry is it is sort of dreamy and not so clear. It crosses really well sometimes. But I think blue dream and sweet tooth both suck and are sort of bland and foggy headed.
I've had pure sativa brick weed in Central America in the past that had an amazing high although it took a lot to get there.
Satva those fruity buds I talked about didn't have a name but they smelled kind of like fruit juice bubblegum. Appearently the guy had 3 phenos as keepers I got it a couple steps removed.
Flo might be a safe bet. The thing about blueberry is it is sort of dreamy and not so clear. It crosses really well sometimes. But I think blue dream and sweet tooth both suck and are sort of bland and foggy headed.
I've had pure sativa brick weed in Central America in the past that had an amazing high although it took a lot to get there.
Genghis Kush
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Flo
Jack Herer
Super Lemon Haze
Durban Poison
Tangie
Jack Herer
Super Lemon Haze
Durban Poison
Tangie
warcraft74
Member
mostlyme - i'm glad to hear someone else feels the same way about panama. it was pretty much all in the head, but more like an indica feeling in the head. i'm actually thinking of running either ace's new(er) pure haze x malawi, or pure haze x kali china (probably moreso the latter). a 12-16 flowering time obviously wouldn't allow it to finish, but at least i'd have a decent amount of what might do me right. same with destroyer - if a feminized version is released again.
crossaint - i read up on those strains you listed and the sativa ones look nice, but in the end i'm really looking for a feminized version of something. i don't have the space and freedom to grow a lot of plants - i'm hiding them within a small vegetable garden flanked by neighbors and even tenants. it's tricky. the kind bud really does sound promising though - and i bet the indica ones may agree with me, but it's really the sativa effect that stimulates my condition. the indica just stagnates me. i'll keep looking around though. super lemon haze by greenhouse looked very promising as kind bud, and also very sativa dominant, but it's not being sold anymore (of course).
satva - you know, i should have asked the dealer... but when you have the connect, you take it for granted as with everything. when it's gone you wish you could have done more. the dealer(s) were affiliated with an assyrian street gang in chicago... so it could have been a assyrian landrace (not sure if they were growing it themselves), or just some real high quality imported mexican. it looked just like the stuff in the first pic of my op. loose and airy, and very soft to the touch. a gram would fatten up a bag real good, and a modern smoker would mistake it for an eighth. i can imagine it's what ace's green haze effect is like. destroyer does look great, and i may just go that route if a feminized version comes out soon. it has to be a feminized strain due to my limited camouflage growing conditions. pure thais, mexicans and hazes would be ideal, but i wouldn't get much if anything smokeable by the end of october (ten weeks of flowering before frost). a 14-16 weeker may yield something decent though.
thanks for all of the suggestions guys. mustafunk pointed me in the direction of original delicatessen (queen mother, alice, lilly), but i read some reports of queen mother on a spanish forum (still have more to read) and someone said it was a pretty physical high and more of a downer. if it put him down, i'd be probably be floored. the 7-8 week flowering time really has me doubting it too. i could of course be wrong. no offense mustafunk, you've been a great help regardless and i may even still end up ordering from them.
i just wish things were so much more simple.
crossaint - i read up on those strains you listed and the sativa ones look nice, but in the end i'm really looking for a feminized version of something. i don't have the space and freedom to grow a lot of plants - i'm hiding them within a small vegetable garden flanked by neighbors and even tenants. it's tricky. the kind bud really does sound promising though - and i bet the indica ones may agree with me, but it's really the sativa effect that stimulates my condition. the indica just stagnates me. i'll keep looking around though. super lemon haze by greenhouse looked very promising as kind bud, and also very sativa dominant, but it's not being sold anymore (of course).
satva - you know, i should have asked the dealer... but when you have the connect, you take it for granted as with everything. when it's gone you wish you could have done more. the dealer(s) were affiliated with an assyrian street gang in chicago... so it could have been a assyrian landrace (not sure if they were growing it themselves), or just some real high quality imported mexican. it looked just like the stuff in the first pic of my op. loose and airy, and very soft to the touch. a gram would fatten up a bag real good, and a modern smoker would mistake it for an eighth. i can imagine it's what ace's green haze effect is like. destroyer does look great, and i may just go that route if a feminized version comes out soon. it has to be a feminized strain due to my limited camouflage growing conditions. pure thais, mexicans and hazes would be ideal, but i wouldn't get much if anything smokeable by the end of october (ten weeks of flowering before frost). a 14-16 weeker may yield something decent though.
thanks for all of the suggestions guys. mustafunk pointed me in the direction of original delicatessen (queen mother, alice, lilly), but i read some reports of queen mother on a spanish forum (still have more to read) and someone said it was a pretty physical high and more of a downer. if it put him down, i'd be probably be floored. the 7-8 week flowering time really has me doubting it too. i could of course be wrong. no offense mustafunk, you've been a great help regardless and i may even still end up ordering from them.
i just wish things were so much more simple.
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Genghis Kush
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Super Lemon Haze was available like week and half ago on Attitude and it comes and goes often on the different sites. I would look everyday until you get it. That's what im doing right now. Its worth it, I think.
also consider working a few strains. a few crosses down the line, who knows, maybe your plants will listen to you and grow to please you
don't get too tunnel vision and try some stuff.. might find an indica that really does it..
LOL, i have had thoughts like this as well... that the arising of a certain special phenotype could depend on mysterious, non-technical seeming, personal/intimate factors... who knows
about your search though,
i think Mustafunk's recommendation of spanish breeders like CBG and Original Delicatessen is worth considering for sure! i have not grown any of their seeds yet, but have received them and am super excited to begin. if you are looking for landrace sativas, Cannabiogen (cbg) currently has some interesting seeds in their "limited releases" section.
Hi i Would go with queen mother ( take care to mold) banghi haze; little Léo. ( queen mother* Angola )is realy good too
You CAN grow the strain mustafunk list ,ihad grow all of thème and They are all Perfect : angola * thaï from ace a few years ago is the best but not availlable.
By GS
You CAN grow the strain mustafunk list ,ihad grow all of thème and They are all Perfect : angola * thaï from ace a few years ago is the best but not availlable.
By GS
Namgorf
Member
I agree, and would suggest the strains Sweet Tooth and Kali Mist.
Whatever you choose, pick it a little early in the harvest window for a clear head with less lazy effects.
Namgorf
Member
Yes, pick it early!
Namgorf
Member
Right On !!
I really think Flo is exactly what you are looking for.
