please help me find my ideal strain

[warcraft74]

hello. i have a medical condition that is helped only by certain strains of mary jane. i used to have a great connect for years that i used to get bright green, fluffy soft buds with a tropical fruity smell from that gave me a real bright, clear and happy kind of high. that connect eventually faded and now i've been disappointed with hundreds of wasted dollars on the black market and risking the last couple of years growing strains in my backyard that don't even agree with me in the end. i even tried ace seed's panama which is a pure 100% sativa, and it did not agree with me. it was too heavy and sedating. it felt like more of a downer than an upper to me. it's like 90% of strains out there do not agree with me. but those other 10% lift me out of my condition. my body just rejects dense, hard buds.

i'm looking for a strain that is all or mostly sativa (ideally at least 80%) that has a flowering time of around ten to fourteen (i'll stretch it as far as sixteen) weeks. a strain with a very bright, very clear headed high that makes you happy, sharp, aroused, vibrant, refreshed without heaviness. i'm looking for a bright lime green bud with soft, fluffy buds. strains that a lot of you would probably consider weak and/or chick's weed. an extremely smooth smoke, almost like inhaling mist lol...

i've looked around for mexican seeds, as mexicans are supposed to have a very happy and light effect, but i've read that most mexican strains have been polluted with indica at some point - even nirvana's eldorado. a twenty week haze would probably be good for me, but i don't have that kind of time for that here in the midwestern usa outdoors. i'm at my wit's end here - i just want to feel normal (healthy). if anyone can point me in the right direction here i'd appreciate it. something that preferably is in feminized format. man, i'm really narrowing it down here, aren't i... lol. here's some photos of the kind of bud i'm looking for.

those last three are pics of organic seeds' green rasta auto, but i couldn't find anywhere online to order them except some site in german which i don't understand or speak.

also, perhaps to a bit of a lesser extent, these:

http://en.**********.eu/pics/galerie/Green_House_Seeds/Big_Bang/27081313109272124_big.jpg

http://en.**********.eu/pics/galerie/Buddha_Seeds/White_Dwarf/07021230341755636_big.jpg

http://en.**********.eu/pics/galeri...esel_Haze_Automatic/10061488004808451_big.jpg

what's funny about that last pic is that white dwarf is an indica... so maybe what i'm looking for is just something without a certain kind of indica - maybe afghani? i'm baffled.

 

[sourpuss]

Green crack!!! Clone or hso
Ice cream!!! Paradise seeds
headbanger!!! Karma genetics
sour jack!!! Karma genetics

For me the crack is the bell ringer. Upitty happy euphoticflavorland.... so r the rest but the way you describe what your looking for id go crack...

Headband clone got great head

 

[warcraft74]

i appreciate your reply, but those strains i'd classify in that ninety percentile i talked about. they're nothing like the photos i posted.

 

[DJXX]

you might try Tangie...straight up flying status with her...Reserva Privada Tangie...think a good one for what you want..DJXX

 

[MostlyMe]

I am a big fan of clear, warm and happy highs. I dedicated my last grow to find that kind of high. I recommend Ace's Bangi Haze. It's a quick strain with some indica in the genetics, but not in the high. I had two phenotypes, the quicker one having a rather cold high initially, but it cured to nice and warm. The longer flowering one was warm from the start.

If you insist on pure sativa, Cannabiogen Destroyer takes the cake. Mine was quite similar to Bangi, except more soaring.

I also became interested in Mexicans, but can't speak from experience yet. I just harvested an Eldorado, it's drying now. I also have Mextiza beans.

 

[DJXX]

there is some pretty soaring Vietnamese sativas out there too..DJXX

 

[Mustafunk]

I'm on the same search. After many years and strains sampled I'd definitely recommend to avoid skunk, afghan and any commercial genes based on those at all costs... otherwise expect to find that sedating comedown that we normally hate, often found even in most commercial haze hybrids. There are plenty 12 weekers out there for those looking for clear, happy and bright highs. It's more about the breeder's criteria rather than the flowering time. Although some of those 18 week Haze crosses are fire for sure (like Congolese/OT Haze for example).

If you want mexican you should try Mextiza (citrus sweet good feeling energetic herb). If you prefer african genes, Queen Mother or Alice (guava, tropical fruity clear electric strains). Those are a must for any "sativa" lover tired of the heavy and sedating commercial hybrids. Destroyer I'd say it's more a sharp focusing or dreamy feeling rather than energetic/electric and a bit calm/heavy at the end too. I think you are looking for that cold sharp energizing effect many of us love instead. Bit like caffeine, isn't it? Tom Hill's Haze may work as well, there are outstanding 14 weekers out there. Need to look for the lemony/citrusy/guava strains (plenty of Limonene). Haze, Mexicans and African genetics could do the trick for those looking for energetic highs.

Hybrids are fine, they yield more, have the potency, the resin, the appeal and the pungent smells but that's not a priority for us though. In my opinion this kind of strains are good, only if they fade as smoothly as they come. I don't like to feel any sedating or tiredness feeling after smoking, so how the effect dilutes is even more important than how it comes and gives the first punch for me. Energetic waves one after the other until the effect just fades out, clean and clear. Getting that feeling of dancing like mad to music, cleaning the house or doing some physical activities until you just ask to yourself "Hey, what happened? I did so much stuff but It seems that suddenly I'm no longer high!", so then you can toke a bit more to keep it up! This is also a must to get the most of this strains, smoke a bit and enjoy the high until you need more, then repeat! lol.

Vibes.

 

[Cabinet Ninja]

Sounds like C99 might fit the bill.

 

[waveguide]

yeah it's kind of hard when panama isn't sativa enough for you..

durban poison is characteristically high in thc-v and has a limited terpene profile, so that some people don't recognise they're high.. other people get way wigged out because it's too freaky. i got mine from "m-s".nl which resells dutch.. dunno whose durban it is but it has thinner leaves than most alleged durbans.

i also agree on c99.. all arounder. but straight durban is some special shit that a lot of smokers don't know about, i guess because of the thc-v. if your problem is psychic, could be your strain.

also consider working a few strains. a few crosses down the line, who knows, maybe your plants will listen to you and grow to please you

don't get too tunnel vision and try some stuff.. might find an indica that really does it..

 

[sourpuss]

Funny... have you guys even tried green crack? To a t the way you describe the high... not only that it gets you everytime no ceiling... gotta be the clone to guarantee that tho.... got some beans from a bag of the clone so ill see what comes of it...

 

[warcraft74]

thanks for the replies guys.

have been reading here and there about cindy99 and a lot of people say good things about it - being clear and happy. not too sure about that green crack though. i'll look into it

MostlyMe - i actually was considering bangi, as it was recommended by someone on the ace forum a few months ago, but i've read that it's really pungent smelling in flowering and i'd probably end up getting busted by the neighbors or even passers-by, for that matter. i'll look into destroyer, though the name leads me astray lol.

Mustafunk - thanks for your thorough reply - it helps a lot. i've actually been reading about cannbiogen/original delicatessen's strains and am intrigued. too bad a lot of the info out there is in spanish, lol. but yeah - those tropical fruity/guava/citrusy strains always did me right in the past so maybe that's what i need. you brought up the queen mother and alice - are those two what you would recommend as top picks for the bright, clear, happy high i'm looking for? they're both feminized and short flowering so they would be perfect. the short flowering period does have me confused though. do you know anything about their honolulu haze? if mextiza comes back in stock, i may give her a try. also, good luck on your search

waveguide - yeah, i figured just as much about the panama as i made my op. i'll def look into the durban.

sourpuss - i'll research the green crack, but like mustafunk said, those afghan/skunk genetics are repulsive to peeps like us. no ego intended there - to each their own, of course.

 

[oceangrownkush]

Casey Jones - Trainwreck x Thai x Sour Diesel

Obliterated my depressive state with 1 lb of this flower.. Since burning through that lb my usage has mostly shifted to evening, sleep aid smokes as it shifted my consciousness enough to be able to recall happiness and apathy whenever things get too heavy..

 

[Croissant]

It sounds like you looking for the kind bud. Let me tell you though it has less to do with indica vs sativa than you might think though. As you tried panama and realized it's not just sativa vs indica what is about is that kind character that lifts you out of your condition.

From personal experience a few pure or near pure indicas are actually some of the best and have clear heads. I recomend tom hills pure indices such as deep chunk, pine tar kush and x18. And sags yumboldt and bubbleberry. In fact bubbleberry fits the description you are looking for.

I will have to disagree on the green crack unless in a cross. Green crack is not kind. Green crack crossed to bubbleberry sounds epic though.

As for seeds on the market that seem to fit the bill that I have read about.
Mextiza
Back to the congo
Ghana
JarillA Sinaloa
Chimeras frankies haze
HIghland mexican x blueberry

 

[warcraft74]

thanks guys.

crossaint - that's interesting. i always thought kind bud was an older term for high quality stuff that came from canada. i'll have to read up on it. i wonder if dj short's flo is considered kind bud.

 

[Croissant]

Kind bud is just a generic term and it depends on context. But there was a time I lived in norcal and at the time kind bud as slang had fallen out of favor and "fire" became the new word de jour for high quality. The thing is certain outdoor just had this kind quality to it and people called that attribute the "kindness" or a "kind bud" it had more to do with high type than anything.

The point is that kind attribute is its own thing and transcends the indica vs sativa generic descriptions.

I at one time had a connect that had fruity clear happy herbs and that dried up and figured it met the description of sativa so it must be sativa buds I was after. Yet most times I try a sativa it doesn't live up to that one herb. As it turns out the only buds that come close were pure indicas. It had more to do with the specific strains or how they combined in a cross than indica vs sativa.

 

[The English Cut]

Have you tried a staggered harvest on any of your grows? For example I know I've read somewhere here that harvesting a Bangi Haze too late can lose the 'sparkle'. Just a thought.

I know it was the case with my own Tangerine Dream from last year's outdoor, the stuff i harvested earliest (Oct 8th) has by far the best, clearest high of all. I harvested some more a week later and the rest a week after that and the difference is astounding - much more body in the high. Flavours weren't improved in those 2 weeks either. It might have been an early pheno though as it's supposed to be a November harvest. (I'm not recommending TD for your needs btw, just an example.)

 

[Croissant]

I haven't tried flo but I've tried blueberry and I liked it but the blueberry I've tried recently was just ok and only a couple blueberry crosses I enjoyed. Flo seems like a safe bet.

Honestly tho the Ghana is. Pure sativA and is supposedly very clear and fruity. If I was you I would get Ghana and x18 and cross them and work the line. Or just keep the Ghana pure and aclimate it to your microclimate.

But search the strains I listed.

Even though x18 is pure indica I think you will like it.

Also the most euphoric strain I have tried has been yumboldt and the happiest the bubbleberry. Either of which crossed to the Ghana would probably be right up your alley.

Also the back to congo sounds like something you would love.

Search the strains I listed.

 

[Snook]

Kind bud is just a generic term and it depends on context. But there was a time I lived in norcal and at the time kind bud as slang had fallen out of favor and "fire" became the new word de jour for high quality. The thing is certain outdoor just had this kind quality to it and people called that attribute the "kindness" or a "kind bud" it had more to do with high type than anything.

The point is that kind attribute is its own thing and transcends the indica vs sativa generic descriptions.

I at one time had a connect that had fruity clear happy herbs and that dried up and figured it met the description of sativa so it must be sativa buds I was after. Yet most times I try a sativa it doesn't live up to that one herb. As it turns out the only buds that come close were pure indicas. It had more to do with the specific strains or how they combined in a cross than indica vs sativa.

in Fla "the Kind" bud was The kind that will fu up. generic.

EDIT: I have read good things about casey jones years ago.. sorry for the 'detour' warcraft.

 

[harry74]

I have always heard great things about Delicatessen strains, no personal experience.

Someone who does some breeding, not like the rest of the country, full of opportunist liars....
He had a visit from the security forces, several years ago....
Must be a casuality... others never have a problem lol,

The cleanest effect I have tested myself, is my own BB F2.
Harvested with 14 weeks 98 days


Good Luck with your search

 

[MostlyMe]

Kind bud is just a generic term and it depends on context. But there was a time I lived in norcal and at the time kind bud as slang had fallen out of favor and "fire" became the new word de jour for high quality. The thing is certain outdoor just had this kind quality to it and people called that attribute the "kindness" or a "kind bud" it had more to do with high type than anything.

The point is that kind attribute is its own thing and transcends the indica vs sativa generic descriptions.

I at one time had a connect that had fruity clear happy herbs and that dried up and figured it met the description of sativa so it must be sativa buds I was after. Yet most times I try a sativa it doesn't live up to that one herb. As it turns out the only buds that come close were pure indicas. It had more to do with the specific strains or how they combined in a cross than indica vs sativa.

Good post. "Kindness" is IMO a key characteristic when describing a high. Pot can be extremely potent, yet kind. The most popular stuff is rarely kind, because it doesn't fuck you up.

C99 for example, is not kind. Too racy. Destroyer is kind.

Have you tried a staggered harvest on any of your grows? For example I know I've read somewhere here that harvesting a Bangi Haze too late can lose the 'sparkle'. Just a thought.

I know it was the case with my own Tangerine Dream from last year's outdoor, the stuff i harvested earliest (Oct 8th) has by far the best, clearest high of all. I harvested some more a week later and the rest a week after that and the difference is astounding - much more body in the high. Flavours weren't improved in those 2 weeks either. It might have been an early pheno though as it's supposed to be a November harvest. (I'm not recommending TD for your needs btw, just an example.)

I agree harvest timing is important. So are growing conditions!

Tangerine Dream is a crock btw, an Amnesia Haze cut S1.

MostlyMe - i actually was considering bangi, as it was recommended by someone on the ace forum a few months ago, but i've read that it's really pungent smelling in flowering and i'd probably end up getting busted by the neighbors or even passers-by, for that matter. i'll look into destroyer, though the name leads me astray lol.

My Bangi didn't smell all that strong. My outdoor plants usually don't smell at all. I grow outdoor on a balcony and never had any problems with smell.

I can see how you would put something named Destroyer aside immediately, lol. But consider my kindness comment above. Destroyer really is kind IMO.