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Plants Can Tell When They’re Being Eaten
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They're already dried and deceased at that point....
okay, fair enough, but suppose you're twistin' up some cloned bud of the plant you're standing next to? or dare I say twistin' up its mama right in front of it, would it at least cringe or recoil in horror???
St. Phatty
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so, if you have a plant that's putting out shoots, and you cut one (I don't mean a fart, I mean a plant cutting) ... does the plant feel anything ?
That little drop of sap that comes out.
I look at it sometimes & wonder if the plant feels pain then.
Or is it more like when a human grows skin, it just grows, you don't feel it growing (normally.)
That little drop of sap that comes out.
I look at it sometimes & wonder if the plant feels pain then.
Or is it more like when a human grows skin, it just grows, you don't feel it growing (normally.)
They don't feel pain, the way that we do, but they sense any attack, which stimulates their defenses to produce chemicals to repel the attackers, and to warn nearby plants. Their immune systems are jump started by pathogens, predators, and rippers.
I made that ripper part up, but wouldn't it be cool if rippers were killed or immobilized by toxins released by the plant?
okay, fair enough, but suppose you're twistin' up some cloned bud of the plant you're standing next to? or dare I say twistin' up its mama right in front of it, would it at least cringe or recoil in horror???
It can't recoil, and doesn't know horror, but if you started to burn a still green, living shoot in front of it's mother, it might try to poison you, or generate tendrils that wrap around your neck and strangle you. Or it may just make itself taste like bunk. As cannabis evolves, it just might develop defenses against sadists like you. One hit, and you fall over dead. Then it drops seeds in your rotting corpse, and seedlings live off, and eventually consume your body as they grow. They will have the distinct odor of a N.Y. City taxi, back seat.
This reminds me of that movie "The Happening..." check it out.... Nature getting back at humans.....
Well, if you read the linked article in the New Yorker, which goes into much greater depth, you would know that "The Secret Life Of Plants" has been debunked.
The New Yorker article is well worth the read for people who don't suffer from short attention span. I didn't want to post the whole thing, because it's a bit long for here.
To be honest the secret life of A PLANT debunked ??? or the universe not going to see it our life times or anyone elses anytime soon
From all the changes being made from previous scientists that we took as how it went down or thats how its done
is being proved wrong
where is the recorded wavelengths / or any signs of actual plants talking to one n nother ??? again they only guess
anyone can have a controlled room , controlled subjects here being plants cut leafs or attack them Sp what happened ???? well , in 1984, both talking tree papers were picked apart by the eminent ecologist John Lawton (who was later knighted). Lawton said that Baldwin’s study was poorly designed and that Rhoades must have accidentally spread an insect disease that slowed the bugs’ growth. His criticism nearly stopped the research dead in its tracks. Rhoades, whom Karban calls the “unheralded father of the field,” couldn’t get funding to replicate his studies and eventually quit science to run a bed and breakfast. People stopped talking about plant communication
Not sure I understand most of your post. Plants definitely communicate with one another. There is no doubt about that.
"Salicylic acid (SA) is a phenolic phytohormone and is found in plants with roles in plant growth and development, photosynthesis, transpiration, ion uptake and transport. SA also induces specific changes in leaf anatomy and chloroplast structure. SA is involved in endogenous signaling, mediating in plant defense against pathogens. It plays a role in the resistance to pathogens by inducing the production of pathogenesis-related proteins. It is involved in the systemic acquired resistance (SAR) in which a pathogenic attack on one part of the plant induces resistance in other parts. The signal can also move to nearby plants by salicylic acid being converted to the volatile ester, methyl salicylate."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salicylic_acid
If you want to learn more, read the New Yorker article. It is up to date.
"Salicylic acid (SA) is a phenolic phytohormone and is found in plants with roles in plant growth and development, photosynthesis, transpiration, ion uptake and transport. SA also induces specific changes in leaf anatomy and chloroplast structure. SA is involved in endogenous signaling, mediating in plant defense against pathogens. It plays a role in the resistance to pathogens by inducing the production of pathogenesis-related proteins. It is involved in the systemic acquired resistance (SAR) in which a pathogenic attack on one part of the plant induces resistance in other parts. The signal can also move to nearby plants by salicylic acid being converted to the volatile ester, methyl salicylate."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salicylic_acid
If you want to learn more, read the New Yorker article. It is up to date.
Well in all seriousness it really doesn't matter if they do or if they don't ,,,, will it make Difference in your garden if they do ??? i know it won't in mine ,, If i was growing outdoor..... Then i would want to boost plants defense systems with silica and even aspirin rather then let them get attacked by airborne insects ....
Now if this is the case how do they get rid cut worms or under ground predators, rabbits , deers, slugs seems to me maybe i am throwing this in the dark this is not a clear cut plants talk to each other bla bla wonder if they say dam this grower is one crazy stoner lol yea think ??
Now if this is the case how do they get rid cut worms or under ground predators, rabbits , deers, slugs seems to me maybe i am throwing this in the dark this is not a clear cut plants talk to each other bla bla wonder if they say dam this grower is one crazy stoner lol yea think ??
I don't think you understand. There is no question that plants communicate with themselves and each other. If a pathogen is attacking one branch of a plant, a warning goes out to the rest of the plant to boost defenses, and also to surrounding plants. Absolutely it makes a difference in your garden. That's how plants defend themselves, since they can't move out of the way. If you have one plant that has mites or stem nematodes, that plant will send out a distress signal, warning other plants, and boosting it's own defenses.
Like I said, read the article in the New Yorker and maybe you will understand. Also, it might help if you're not wasted when you read it, if you ever do. It's also explained in the Wikipedia article I referenced. SAR response. Google it.
Like I said, read the article in the New Yorker and maybe you will understand. Also, it might help if you're not wasted when you read it, if you ever do. It's also explained in the Wikipedia article I referenced. SAR response. Google it.
if a female plant is eaten and doesnt make a sound, how do we know if she enjoyed it ????yeeeeeehaw
science isn't qualified to dictate all of the mechanisms through which *we* communicate, let alone plants.
if someone cuts your limb off and you start yelling, they could say that's your way of warning others, you feel no pain. you're just putting your energy into screaming.
there's a vested, tangible, capital interest in debunking research of plant awareness. or the awareness of any thing someone wishes to exploit. eg. biometrics.
these questions cannot be answered by referencing authority, or by discussion or consensus. they cannot be satisfied outside of immediate experience, and if you have an understanding of epistemological solipsism, you'll appreciate that ultimately, there can be no objective answer.
all that's left is your choice of what actions to take without knowing.
if someone cuts your limb off and you start yelling, they could say that's your way of warning others, you feel no pain. you're just putting your energy into screaming.
there's a vested, tangible, capital interest in debunking research of plant awareness. or the awareness of any thing someone wishes to exploit. eg. biometrics.
these questions cannot be answered by referencing authority, or by discussion or consensus. they cannot be satisfied outside of immediate experience, and if you have an understanding of epistemological solipsism, you'll appreciate that ultimately, there can be no objective answer.
all that's left is your choice of what actions to take without knowing.
