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plant look wilted (outdoor)

dalgafena

New member
hi to all , what's wrong with this plant? it's about 1.5 month old but it seemed like it stopped growing after the leafs looked like this..any comments plz
 

Blackvelvet

Member
dalgafena said:
..any comments plz
1st post and your begging for help. :(

There are many things that can make a plant look "dog eared"...

Did you add dolomite lime to your soil mix to provide calcium and magnesium? Is there cal mag in your ferts?

What did you add to the soil? Too much salts will "suck" the water out of the plant? Are you adding ferts in your water...how much, what are they, and how often?

Maybe the plant is thirsty? Do you water 6" deep when appying then let dry out some?

What's your ph? Take 1 part soil (about 1/4 cup) and mix with 1/4 cup distilled water. Stir. Wait 30 minutes. Test slurry ph. If you don't have a meter, at least get some ph test strips from a pet store in the aquarium section.

Copper deficiency can cause wilt. Are there micronutrients in your fert plan? (Along with a high ph limiting copper)

That's all I can think of right now. Add any details you can to get a better answer.

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dalgafena

New member
man thx you are trying to help me, i use b'cuzz nutes,and i use a soil mix wşth out lime or any other ph thing...and 1 post does not mean i'm a newbie in the forum and about growing...
 
G

Guest

More info would be helpfull,,,,,

Temps? - having a heat wave here a lot of my plants are less than happy.

When watered? nutes?

is this a new problem or one that is on going?



Sure one picture is worth a thousand words,,, but you could help a lil,,, ya know?


I'm guessing either,,, slight overwatering or temps over 90 F - dosen't look like the plant has been abused or having problems,,

dosen't look like a nute issue
 

Blackvelvet

Member
dalgafena said:
i use a soil mix wşth out lime or any other ph thing...
Lack of calcium will make plants look droopy.

You need to adjust the ph of your fert water after mixing and also test ph in your soil mix. So, you at least need some ph test strips in the aquarium section of a petstore or a brew your own beer/wine store. Ph test strip range 4-7 is ok. Better a narrower range around 6.

How to test soil ph: After watering/ferting till runoff, wait 30 minutes. Apply a small amount of distilled water to the pot surface till 1 or 2 ounces of runoff occurs. Catch this on a saucer. Test this ph. If after watering/ferting and waiting 30 minutes you can tilt the pot and get some liquid out, you can test that instead.

If your not in pots, take 1/4 cup of the soil mix (off the rootball if possible) and mix with 1/4 cup distilled water. Stir. Wait 30 minutes. Test this ph.

You would use powdered/pulverized not pelletized dolomite lime to provide calcium and magnesium. You can only use this if your ph is low. Adding lime when the soil ph is ok will cause problems.

Before planting, its wise to experiment with different lime rates. Make several small batches of soil mix in several different pots (like 1 gallon pots) and experiment. Add different lime rates to the soil mix. Wet well. Wait 1 week. Pick the best lime rate. Example: Four 1 gallon pots with 1, 2, 3, and 4 teaspoons of dol. lime. Pick the best 1.

If ph is low (less than 5.8), you can surface apply the lime at 1 1/5 teaspoon per gallon of soil mix. Water in. If you only have square feet around the plant...1 1/2 teaspoons per square foot (12"x12"). Water in. Remember, these lime rates are an educated guess.

If ph is ok or high, you can add cal mag to your fert by using 1/4 teaspoon powdered gypsum and epsom salts per gallon of water along with the regular fert. Calcium nitrate could be used instead of gypsum at the same rate. Calcium chloride sold under names like tomato blossom end rot stopper could be used instead of gypsum. It will take the % ca and net weight of the bottle to give you a rate of 60 ppm ca. Calcium chloride and calcium nitrate are much easier to disolve than gypsum. Easily disolvable gypsum you can find at brew your own beer/wine stores.

Using just dolomite lime does not provide sulfur. (actually needed in large quantities) You can mix gypsum into the soil at planting at 3/4 teaspoon per gallon of mix to provide this or in your case, you might add 1/4 teaspoon epsom salts occassionally in the water (1 gallon) to provide sulfur along with your surface applied lime.

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G

Guest

velvet neds to stop posting you dont even grow.ou just give bad advice to everyone.

to meit looks like they are overwatered..it looks to be a huge puddle by the base of your plant...how often do you water? im def. not an expert justgiving you an idea of what it could be. just please dont listen to velvet...he screwed me up quite a bit just so he can have a good laugh.
 

DirtDoctor

Member
Was that picture taken at night? It kinda looks that way - Plants tend to look wilty in the middle of the night.

If it's still droopy during the day, then yeah, I would guess you're overwatering - let the top 4 to 6 inches of soil dry out before watering again.
 
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JeffSpicoli

honestly velvet.... every post ive seen of yours, you mention Dolomite Lime, and calcium/ magnesium deficiencies. Seriously though, do you even know what you are talking about?

You sure give some crazy advice to people sometimes.....

his plants look healthy, aside from the severe droopyness... But honestly, how can you think that plant needs calmag?

By the looks of it, it looks to be severely underwatered if you ask me, but then again it could be wayyyy overwatered as well
 

Blackvelvet

Member
JeffSpicoli said:
honestly velvet.... every post ive seen of yours, you mention Dolomite Lime, and calcium/ magnesium deficiencies. Seriously though, do you even know what you are talking about?
Dude, love the avatar.

He said he did not add any lime...calcium and magnesium are both macronutrients and are needed by plants in large quantities.
 

kov

Polskaaa, bialo-czerwonaaa
DirtDoctor said:
Was that picture taken at night? It kinda looks that way - Plants tend to look wilty in the middle of the night.

If it's still droopy during the day, then yeah, I would guess you're overwatering - let the top 4 to 6 inches of soil dry out before watering again.

That's my take on it too, the plants tend to look like this during the night.

rgds, kov
 

snottyp

Member
ahaha iam with jeff and darren, this looks like it has nothing to do with ph or fert deficiencies . the soil around the hole you dug for the plant looks pretty shitty and probably gets real compact when you water your girl. your roots are probably sitting in wetness with no oxygen getting to them down there. cut back on your watering. and if your not using beasties, than add a little peroxide 1/3 ratio to help out! i dont think their drooping only at night, cause you said they look like this all the time and its stopped growing. stunted growth usually means root problems so look into it. temp may also be a factor. where i live its around 98 degrees everyday, which would probably make any plant look like yours if its not in the shade.

velvet.... it looks like your cutting and pasting things, try your own words, theyl work better
 
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