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Plain weird, help from more experienced needed

TheDarkStorm

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I thought id seen it all but over the years iv not seen this..atleast not to this extreme..this plant never ceases to amaze you.
 

Mr. J

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It's just a semiauto. They're not all that uncommon and I've run into quite a few over the years. Sometimes putting them in a bigger pot or increasing the hours of light helps, but usually they keep on doing their flowery thing and never really go back into veg. In my experience they often produce really nice buds, which is always a bummer to me because I don't keep plants like that for very long because they're a pain in the ass. If I find a good one I might try to keep it and make copies for an outdoor summer run because those plants always start flowering early and finish early. It's a struggle to get a full indoor crop because they don't veg right and they tend to grow slowly.
 

TheDarkStorm

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Thats exactly what I thought..or it may have semi auto genes in ther some wer..but we took clones and the clones grow normaly in veg stage but with huge calaxes and just grow and grow more crystal all up and down the stems and leaves its growing next to a pure thai sativa clone and seems to bee keeping up with it so far in growth which is what made me doubt this theory.but you could be right...iv just not seen it before..iv been off the scene for along time myself...with so many genetics been bred to one another nowadays with people not knowing the pedigrees of most of ther parentals and not alot of testing of perental lines this may be a strong possibility..thanks for the suggestion mr j.
 
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I wood

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The guys keept it to try breeding with it..I was just more interested into whats causing the hormones to ramp up so much...could be normal with some genetics..Im abit out of touch with some of the newer stuff out ther now days..

Some genetic combinations tend to languish in revegging that way.
I have a haze x kalichina doing the same thing under 20 hours of light. It was a clone taken from a plant a week or two into flowering. Rooted quick and is growing in size at a normal rate but has dime sized buds everywhere new growth should be. Being in a beer cup probably added to the situation. It just got uppotted and was top dressed with alfalfa meal to help stimulate some stretch. Within a few weeks it should be back on track or it will be topped severely.
Yours will come around eventually, be patient.
 

TheDarkStorm

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Thanks I wood..thers no issues with its growth at all..the mother is quite big and throws quite afew branches...we took quite afew cuttings of it..the mom started doing this at a foot in hight in veg never been triggered to flower...but grew normally other wise..its now 4 an a half foot but thats cuz it had to be tied down..its probably 6ft tall if it wernt tied down..the only thing different iv seen on this plant and its cuttings is wen it hit maturity insted of having afew hairs here and ther..it just grew huge calaxes on the internodes with quite abit of white hair..and the crystal production just went crazy..all over the stems and leaves..I have noticed somthing slightly different in the crystal..on the stems and calaxess the crystals are clear but on the top ov the leaves they seem to be yellow..il try get a picture sent to me of them...might be a clue as to wats going on...
updated.. he saying the leaves with yellow crystal are just afew on the mother but not really onthe clones..might be due to him knocking those leaves and handling them..so it might not be anything.
 
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TheDarkStorm

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I wonder if its a reaction to higher uv light levels..the guy uses a homemade custom led rig and im sure he has uv and ir in his rig..might be intresting to measure how much uv is being put out an if its any different to the norm..il get him to take more cutts an test them under different lighting conditions.
 

f-e

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Ther not being forced to flower and never have...ther actually doing this in veg stage under 24 hour lighting..the mother is about 4-5 months old at this point..and its doing exactly the same thing too

I don't mean forced by light hours, neighbour
 

TheDarkStorm

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F-e : ah I see you think the unhappiness is forcing them to flower..thanks for the suggestion..its this sort of input we need back here..as id like to test this in numerous conditions against allsorts of ideas..thanks for your input...wer gona test some fresh cuttings in a few more ways..one of those being in way bigger pots and another under different lighting conditions.. although the mothers in a huge pot..but still an idea to chek out..im still trying to get the guy to take a full plant picture of the mother but hes abit reluctant cus he has to move it to somewer with a neutral background..hes abit of a stubborn sod.
 
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scrogrow

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Your mate taken a cut from a fast version or a semi auto? Imo 20/4 light time is more suited to autos
 

TheDarkStorm

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Autos flower with age..this has been going on for 4-5 months and its still growing like a normal plant in veg..diffrent cuttings been tried in 18 on and 6 off, 20 on and 4 off and under 24 on..ther is no diffrence..the longer light hours we use to try n stop bolting of some long held plants
 

scrogrow

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Autos flower with age..this has been going on for 4-5 months and its still growing like a normal plant in veg..diffrent cuttings been tried in 18 on and 6 off, 20 on and 4 off and under 24 on..ther is no diffrence..the longer light hours we use to try n stop bolting of some long held plants

It's a fast version then and the stunting the auto gene has clearly escaped your "clone fairys" skill set
Seems like your "pal" is more cash crop and less care about the planet and finished product

But what do I know eh?

My advice would be to reach out to known growers if cuts are your starting material

If not do what I do and pop as many beans as possible until ya find some unicorns and then trade your chosen cuts with your buddys

Mate I been in this world for 13yr THE way I see it unless there is pics and documentation it didn't happen

You on insta dm me if you are please I'd be happy to continue this convo
 

TheDarkStorm

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It's a fast version then and the stunting the auto gene has clearly escaped your "clone fairys" skill set
Seems like your "pal" is more cash crop and less care about the planet and finished product

But what do I know eh?

My advice would be to reach out to known growers if cuts are your starting material

If not do what I do and pop as many beans as possible until ya find some unicorns and then trade your chosen cuts with your buddys

Mate I been in this world for 13yr THE way I see it unless there is pics and documentation it didn't happen

You on insta dm me if you are please I'd be happy to continue this convo

Maybe im misunderstanding wat your saying..but from what I can gather you maybe thinking the clones are a few months old...only the mother plant is 4-5 months old..the clones in the pictures are only 3 weeks or maybe 4 from being cut..iv been involved in growth world for 30years on and off (and smoking much longer) the off due to being sent on a forceful holiday for quite awhile...you seem to be quite clued up on auto stuff so your input would be appreciated...but im just not sure I understand what your saying properly..id just like to point out that the mother or its cuttings are in no way stunted..and are growing as rapidly as any other plant..the cuttings in the small cups are kept as back up cuttings and test materials and are purposely held in smaller containers due to space restrictions.. also any stuff that is kept is never kept for yields but only potency and high..yields are never a issue as evrything is only for pesonal use and pleasure.
 

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