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PH PROBLEM

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working in organic soil 3 weeks in flower, Started with rusty spots like a cal def. now its starting to eat away the leaves and browning. I just flushed out the plant and im getting run off water of 5.0!! How can i raise the ph fast? I cant find dolomite anywhere and i just ordered some express. What can I do in the mean time? I was thinking maybe add more soil and water one more time until the lime comes? Whats the best way to add the lime when it comes?
 

Ono Nadagin

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repot is about your only quick fix option ... I would get a new pot of soil ready.. water it and check the ph to make sure the problem isnt in your soil to begin with and not something you caused since planting into it....

If the soils PH is inline then repot from the old pot to the new one... be gentle and shake off as much of the old mix as possible and then put the rootball nto the new pot and fill in with the new batch of soil thats been PH tested and then water it in with PH'd water
 

Blackvelvet

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Go to the grocery store and get pickling lime. Its calcium hydroxide. 192 teaspoons = 1 pound. Surface apply .75 pounds per 27 cubic feet. So if you got a gallon pot with about .15 cubic feet, you would use 3/4 x 192 = 144 teaspoons x .15/27 = .8 teaspoons. You might only use 1/2 this rate (.4 teaspoons per gal) and see what the ph does after a week or so. Remember this would add only calcium and no magnesium. A drench of maybe 1 teaspoon epsom per gallon of water might be also wise to keep levels of calcium and magnesium balanced. This is all extreme. Best thing is to wait and get the powdered dolomite lime. 1 1/5-2 teaspoons per gallon of soil mix sprinkled on the surface can be used. :joint:

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Verite

My little pony.. my little pony
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I agree with Ono. Using crap from the grocery store in unfounded methods from someone thats never grown weed before isnt going to get you anywhere but back to the infirmary.
 

stealthballer

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Verite said:
I agree with Ono. Using crap from the grocery store in unfounded methods from someone thats never grown weed before isnt going to get you anywhere but back to the infirmary.


you know regardless whether he grew weed or not he grows something well, time after time I see him post something that is true and helpful and in a ton of gardening books I have. So what if he didn't grow weed, the guy is a good gardener. I don't get why all you guys jump his shit so much...
 

Ono Nadagin

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I see him almost daily tell ppl to do things to their plants that is harmful... maily ppl that use coco... he may understand soil but I have serious concerns about the suggestions he gives ppl that grow in coco and somewhat in hydro... But as you said at least he is trying to help
 

stealthballer

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Ono Nadagin said:
I see him almost daily tell ppl to do things to their plants that is harmful... maily ppl that use coco... he may understand soil but I have serious concerns about the suggestions he gives ppl that grow in coco and somewhat in hydro... But as you said at least he is trying to help


I don't spend any time in coco so I can't comment on that, but most of the advice he gives is pretty solid, and he has helped a ton of people on here.
 

Verite

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stealthballer said:
you know regardless whether he grew weed or not he grows something well, time after time I see him post something that is true and helpful and in a ton of gardening books I have. So what if he didn't grow weed, the guy is a good gardener. I don't get why all you guys jump his shit so much...

Sorry stealth but your argueing an already lost battle regarding the plant prowess of sproutco/blackvelvet.

Please show the rest of us that dont seem to share your affectation for sproutco where its common for gardeners to use pickling lime in their plants. Can you find a source for that anywhere?

Then you might as well show us where gardeners use stump remover and battery acid too.
 

Blackvelvet

Member
Verite said:
Please show the rest of us that dont seem to share your affectation for sproutco where its common for gardeners to use pickling lime in their plants. Can you find a source for that anywhere?
Pickling lime is food grade (something you eat) calcium hydroxide. Your an idiot verite.
:pointlaug

When pH of growing medium in containers of foliage plants needs to be raised during production, calcium hydroxide has often been suggested as a surface application to correct the problem
http://mrec.ifas.ufl.edu/foliage/resrpts/rh_95_5.htm

I don't suggest using calcium hydroxide because the effects are extreme. Best to wait on the dolomite lime and surface apply it.
 
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noticed he/she/its bull crap advice for coco growers also. Have you ever grown in coco bv/sproutco? Have you ever grown period? Ya need to lay off the bullshit add a little epsom salts advice......it don't work in coco. Period.
 
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black= sprouto?

Sprout, anyone giving advice should always have a gallery, otherwise stay out of the infirmary, otherwise you will never have enough proof. Sorry!
 
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Verite

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Blackvelvet said:
Pickling lime is food grade (something you eat) calcium hydroxide. Your an idiot verite.
:pointlaug


http://mrec.ifas.ufl.edu/foliage/resrpts/rh_95_5.htm

I don't suggest using calcium hydroxide because the effects are extreme. Best to wait on the dolomite lime and surface apply it.


And you sproutco/blackvelvet are a total douche .. try reading your shit for a change and see they added that stuff to a very specific soil type.. for a specific plant type.

Notice it was a 'partial' add to commonly used dolomite lime or didnt you read that far?

Did you also notice the link was to some educational experiment that seemed pretty focused on dolomite lime? No where did it make it seem like it gardeners or farmers normally add calcium hydroxide to their plants/crops.

So take your never been used methods from a guy whos never grown a marijuana plant and piss off before you ruin more peoples plants .. of course never your own.
 
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I went down the road and bought some gardners lime. Seems to be a mix of dolomite, cal and mag. I put a few teaspoons on the soil surface and then mixed a teaspoon and a half in a gal of water. Ph was 8.0 and 300ppm i fed a little to my three girls just to soak the soil and get ph a tad. I then foilar sprayed them down with the solution. I checked today and they look a bit greener and most of the rust is gone. The buds and leaves are frosty as hell!! HOw can i check the ph without watering to get run off? The plants still need to dry out. The leaves seem curled down and some look like they were cut in half...
 
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swordfish said:
I went down the road and bought some gardners lime. Seems to be a mix of dolomite, cal and mag. I put a few teaspoons on the soil surface and then mixed a teaspoon and a half in a gal of water. Ph was 8.0 and 300ppm i fed a little to my three girls just to soak the soil and get ph a tad. I then foilar sprayed them down with the solution. I checked today and they look a bit greener and most of the rust is gone. The buds and leaves are frosty as hell!! HOw can i check the ph without watering to get run off? The plants still need to dry out. The leaves seem curled down and some look like they were cut in half...

runoff is your most accurate, best bet

only other way i know is a soil meter... but I dont trust stabbing at the roots to find the PH...:D with runoff you get the water through all the soil, not jsut the surface, you really only need to test runoff 2-4 times during a grow, unless you got probs.

I check once after a few weeks of their first veg ferts, then once before I switch to flower, and then again in the middle of flower. Most of the time I find myself adding 1/3 tbs of powdered lime each time I check it. Therefore spreading out the lime instead of one big batch. Worked hella better for me.
 
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man velvet/sproutco ruined my first 2 grows by givin me bad advise and telling em the wrong ph to shoot for. id just like to take the time to thank his dumbass for screwing me over. anyone who says to put stump remover in plants is a retard
 

Core

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i say it again...sproutco /black velvet should be kickt/banned again....he's a danger for newcommers grows..!!!! :mad:

and i know for a fact it is you Spratco!
 

stihgnobevoli

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all the advice ive gotten from blackvelvet has been more solid than almost all the bad advice ive gotten from everyone else combined.
 
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