People hating cheap seed companies.

[Big D]

Why would you waste your time worrying about what other people think. If you bought seeds that you could afford and grew them and were satisfied with what you got... then what does it matter? You don't have to impress anyone here. It is not WHAT you grow... it is THAT you grow! If you are willing to take the risk, I for one give you MAD props!

Fuck the haters!

 

[tokinsmokin]

There are examples of breeders who can justify their prices - Shantibaba being the prime example, he has to cover the costs of the large greenhouse rows he does for selection, he does proper breeding with large populations, and that costs a lot of money, he can't sell his seeds at a loss, hence they aren't that cheap.

Contrast that with a lot of other seed companies who hack their seeds in small spaces with virtually no selections and charge stupid prices.

I can name two well known seed companies who don't even make their own seeds, they just buy them in from some cats in Spain, give them exotic names and made-up lineages and sell them for very high prices.

Definitely agree with this comment.

Also the amount of time to go about a breeding project could take a gruesome amount of time. Trying to stabilize the strain as well as honing in on what you want out of the strain. This is what makes breeding difficult and a very good breeder should charge even more than the $100-$150 that we have to pay. It is too bad that there are companies that just peddle strains without working with them and go charge the same price as someone who has spent countless hours perfecting a strain.

 

[CaptainTrips]

I totally agree, I have grown so many hyped lines that were nothing special, most of the best plants I ever grew were from seeds that cost nothing.

There are examples of breeders who can justify their prices - Shantibaba being the prime example, he has to cover the costs of the large greenhouse rows he does for selection, he does proper breeding with large populations, and that costs a lot of money, he can't sell his seeds at a loss, hence they aren't that cheap.

Contrast that with a lot of other seed companies who hack their seeds in small spaces with virtually no selections and charge stupid prices.

I can name two well known seed companies who don't even make their own seeds, they just buy them in from some cats in Spain, give them exotic names and made-up lineages and sell them for very high prices.

Only problem with this, if he has such a big operation, he is also creating mass quantities of weed, which he is is surely selling to somebody. Seeds are just a byproduct. They should be cheap. Or cheaper. $100 for 10 seeds is a ripoff, regardless of who is doing it.

 

[Euphrates]

Yeh, At the same time, so is 100 bucks for a quarter of herb and so forth. I dunno. Personally I wouldn’t spend 100 dollars on 10 seeds that may or may not even make it to my door, something within me can't agree with that.

I personally, at the most, I would want to stay around 70 dollar range for a ten pack. I think there’s some decent stuff found in the mid range done by some reputable breeders.

 

[cracker420]

nirvana's - ICE 17 days from harvest

 

[Sam the Caveman]

Shanti's seeds aren't that expensive considering he gives 18 to a pack.

For instance "shit", its only about $45 or so and you get 18 seeds, thats $2.50 per seed. Thats an amazing price from one of, if not the best breeders out there.

 

[JamieShoes]

Agreed Sam... I think MNS seeds are one of the few examples where you get what you pay for in terms of quailty.... and one or two others...

For me MNS gear is the probably best money can buy in terms of reliablitly and feeling safe in the knowledge that they're not just some "pollen slingers" with a few mums in a cupboard

Some other breeders' expensive seeds...not so much

 

[gogoplata420]

The thing that sucks is these snipers are quite simply ruining this persons day, whos ALREADY paid for the seeds.

they did NOT pay for the seeds already... if i choose to snipe a pack of seeds in the closing seconds of an auction so be it.

one shot, one kill

 

[Rednick]

Look at all the hype/craze behind chemdog...really, its as simple as someone picking up a legit chemdog cut from a dispensary and them spreading the love to others. Instead...people (most, not all...) will just keep the cut so closely guarded...and never pass it on to the next person...even though someone showed them hella luv by gifting it to them.

Thats just how i look at it.

solarz

I bet if you showed enough love to the man with the chemdog, it might trickle your way. But why should he have gone through all the work to get or breed that just so that you could buy it at the dispensary for $20 and mother it. If you were willing to pay say $1,000 for it, I bet you would find someone willing to sell it to you. Or say you help him out with his work, or have something you have babied and want to trade. You are not going to get someone's baby for free!

But the fact of the matter is, we all value things differently. Economic fact, the price of anything is what someone is willing to pay for it.

Since you live in a medical state, I suggest you cultivate more friendships and then you will have so many good strains that you won't give a fkkk if you have Chemdog or not.

 

[gogoplata420]

they did NOT pay for the seeds already... if i choose to snipe a pack of seeds in the closing seconds of an auction so be it.

one shot, one kill

^that was me fucking around... ive never heard of someone using the word sniper the way you have. i guess it makes sense but still.

 

[erbium]

I agree with the guys who mentioned Mr Nice. Great breeding stock makes for a higher percentage of kick-ass in each pack.

 

[Rednick]

"Originally Posted by gogoplata420
they did NOT pay for the seeds already... if i choose to snipe a pack of seeds in the closing seconds of an auction so be it.

one shot, one kill"

Yeah, that would probably fall under the Market Economics of Seed Trading, Technical Trading. Try that forum.

Just know that you have a chance that a good seed is cheap and a bad seed is expensive.

Most importantly, you must understand how, I repeat, how that strain grows. It is as different as growing a tomato or a potato.

If you rely on other people's seeds, then you are reliant on market forces. If you produce your own seeds, then you have given up the time and investment (opportunity cost) that could have been spent elsewhere.

Economics 101

 

[krunchbubble]

they did NOT pay for the seeds already... if i choose to snipe a pack of seeds in the closing seconds of an auction so be it.

one shot, one kill

cant tell you how many times ive done that.....if you really want something, sometimes you have to do it .....

on another note. grindhouse seeds are very well priced right now. $60 a pack range

 

[steppinRazor]

whats with people hating rezdog? i dont get it?

 

[DocLeaf]

Growdoc offers the best indica genetics for the buck ($)! period!

 

[krunchbubble]

whats with people hating rezdog? i dont get it?

come on man! you damn well if anyone says anything negative about him, the post will be deleted and the user will get banned....

 

[solarz]

I bet if you showed enough love to the man with the chemdog, it might trickle your way. But why should he have gone through all the work to get or breed that just so that you could buy it at the dispensary for $20 and mother it. If you were willing to pay say $1,000 for it, I bet you would find someone willing to sell it to you. Or say you help him out with his work, or have something you have babied and want to trade. You are not going to get someone's baby for free!

But the fact of the matter is, we all value things differently. Economic fact, the price of anything is what someone is willing to pay for it.

Since you live in a medical state, I suggest you cultivate more friendships and then you will have so many good strains that you won't give a fkkk if you have Chemdog or not.

For one...i don't like in a med state. Second...i've talked with/met plenty people, and a few in particular who claimed they were willing to come off of some cuts..and believe me, i had the cash in hand in front of this dudes face...and he still acted like a straight up BITCH and backed out on the deal with me. FWIW...we agreed that if i made it out there (he wasnt "into" shipping clones), he would be willing to release some UNROOTED cuts. Me being the real ass dude i am, i came with cash (even though none was ever discussed being exchanged) and i brought some VERY sought after seeds that i wouldn't have the time to run properly b/c of lack of space...that i was all willing to give this dude for letting me get some cuts. So in spite of all of this, not to mention the time and money i wasted to make it out to "kill cali " this punk didn't even follow thru...and yes you know who you are you pussy!

So like i said...i'm not some lame that doesn't know "how to do business" its just that people do a lot of talk about being gracious donators to the community, when in fact they are clone hoarding liars. Now, this is not to say that there aren't people out there willing to extend their hand and offer up top notch shit, FOR NOTHING...not even asking for anything return (and i'll forever thank you for this bro...). These are the people who i would consider cool people in the community, and are about spreading the genetics around for all to experience and enjoy.

To the O.P. sorry to take it a bit off topic, but i had to explain where i was coming from in my original post.

Solarz

 

[PuReKnOwLeDgE]

Seeds are very cheap, there is not an expensive pack of seeds out there. People will spend hundreds more on a pet fish for breeding projects, or a puppy, cat, even pumpkin seeds are more expensive then marijuana seeds. People spend lots of hard earned cash on hobbies, buy some tires for your hotrod just to roast them off, shit a tank of gas in your boat on the weekend will cost more then 2-3 packs of seeds. Perhaps a weekend of paintballing? One tank of gas or 12 weeks growing a new strain?

But you get marijuana seeds, for mostly $150 or less, you get 10 of them, each ones different, you gain the ability to even make your own form the 10 seeds, and get to keep the genetics if worth keeping for life. Not to mention, you get to have the pleasure of growing that variety, and smoking it to. Oh and damn I almost forgot, in the market place, rare or hard to find genetics, tastier weed, better bag appeal, usually fetchs a high dollar.

How much money do you think pre98 Bubba kush has made for its owners tax free in its lifetime? If there was a 10 pack of pre98 BK available for $200 would you buy it? No, you would buy at least 5 of them!

I have smoked $35 dollar seed plants and $200+ seed plants, both seeds can produce soemthing great, in that sense they are equals. But the $200+ dollar seed can produce something great, but also more consistently.

Of course the above isn't always true. Some genetics are under priced, and some are over priced. I would not discriminate based off price for a genetic I wish to try, i would discriminat however based off of the grow reports, journals, and general reviews of the product.

How many things can you buy that last a lifetime, andfor a life time produce something so valuable and tasty for you. Hobbies cost money, and for some this is more then a hobby

Seeds are cheap...

 

[steppinRazor]

come on man! you damn well if anyone says anything negative about him, the post will be deleted and the user will get banned....

lmao seriously? is that the reason ppl hate on'm?? lol kinda funny actually
didnt know that - i do like his sour d ibl tho

 

[gogoplata420]

cant tell you how many times ive done that.....if you really want something, sometimes you have to do it .....

on another note. grindhouse seeds are very well priced right now. $60 a pack range

not only are they well priced but in my experience you get 13 seeds a pack and steele is extremely helpful, everything from lineage to the grow itself. i got 100 percent germ rates and some stinky son bitches in veg right now