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Diary PCBuds mini-grow

PCBuds

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Such signs may go after watering the EC down each day, then come back as the water is consumed, increasing root zone EC again, if they don't take the food.

Of course, the signs that suggest high EC might be because of the extra transpiration the extra lights bring.


She is drinking a lot faster now that I've turned up the lights.
She went from 5,000 LUX to 20,000 LUX in one day.



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A plant stressed out in this way will do better with less light, or lower EC.


I can lower the EC, but she's going to be getting more light if anything.

I like purple plants.
I want to roast those fan leaves right off the plant. Lol
They are blocking light and not necessary with all the light she is getting now.



The biggest clue might come from your watering schedule compared to the wilting time.


I don't really have a watering schedule. I just add water when the bobber is getting low.



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It's best not to drop the EC in huge increments, if you needed to.


I guess that I can water down my nute solution for a while.
I've got a PPM meter, but it doesn't show EC and it's a useless $10 piece of crap. lol


I mix up my nute solution in two liter batches.
What if I use the same about of nutes in 3 liters instead ?
 

PCBuds

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I was expecting her to react like she did. I remember the same sort of thing happening before.

I'm going to focus on the flowers and new growth.

She does still look pretty good.

She's 3 feet tall now. Her stretch is slowing down a bit.


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I watered my plant with diluted solution.
 

f-e

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I mix up my nute solution in two liter batches.
What if I use the same about of nutes in 3 liters instead ?

5 too 20? Your evil man. You should be held accountable. lol That's like stepping out onto the runway in Morocco.

2 in 3 is a third less. That's a big jump. Maybe 2 in 2.5, though 2 in 3 may be more appropriate after a day or three.

Is your usual 2L the bottle dose?
 

PCBuds

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5 too 20? Your evil man. You should be held accountable. lol That's like stepping out onto the runway in Morocco.


It's taking me huge amounts of LITFA to not crank it right up to 50.
Lol


2 in 3 is a third less. That's a big jump. Maybe 2 in 2.5, though 2 in 3 may be more appropriate after a day or three.

OK.
I'll do that.

She is drinking/transpiring about twice as fast since I turned up the lights.


Is your usual 2L the bottle dose?


Yes.
It's the recommended dosage for a flowering plant.

The General Hydroponics website does mention what you said about nutrient concentration and overfeeding.



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PCBuds

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She's 37 inches tall today.


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She's looking pretty good, especially at the top.


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She's kinda flakey towards the middle and bottom.
The bigger fan leaves are starting to turn pale.
I figure that the plant is now resorbing the leaves and pulling nutrients out of them to feed the rest of the plant.


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I bent the bottom fan leaves down and out of the way.
They were resting on top of the lower colas.

I was considering removing them, but they aren't in the way any more, and I can just wait for the plant to shed them.

I'll probably remove them when they start drying up.


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PCBuds

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I decided to unplug the twelve 5000k strips on the walls.

Those lights were in the middle of the grow space and that's where the plant looked the droopiest.



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I'll give her a few days to adjust, but I really want to fire up the lights.

They aren't even turned up to half way yet.

I did turn up the ceiling lights to max though. (test current, 6.8 Watts X 8).
The twenty four 3500k side lights are at half.
 

PCBuds

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She's grown another 1/2" in the past 9 hours.


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I may end up having to cut her head off if she carries on like this.??
Lol
 

PCBuds

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She's 38 inches today.


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She is looking pretty much the same as the past few days.
Her fan leaves are gradually getting paler.



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PCBuds

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She's looking good !!, especially at the top.



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She appears to have pretty much stopped stretching.
That happened at the perfect height.
I won't have to cut her head off. Lol

She's about 6 inches from the ceiling lights.



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I've got all the lights turned up to maximum now.
(the twelve 5000k side strips are still unplugged)

She seems to be adjusting and responding well to the lights.

I think she likes the 3500k lighting?


The flowers are looking really good!!



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She's starting to get Frosty!!




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piramidon

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She's looking great, man! She got a lot fluffier as well.
I tell you what: for a moment there, I doubted you, thought she'll be too strechy. Shame on me! :biggrin:
 

PCBuds

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She's looking great, man! She got a lot fluffier as well.
I tell you what: for a moment there, I doubted you, thought she'll be too strechy. Shame on me! :biggrin:

Thanks piramidon. :thank you:

She did really look like she was croaking.

I think she's well on her way towards adjusting and heading towards being a one pound plant.

Fingers crossed. 🤞
 

PCBuds

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I wanted to post this here because it's kinda off topic for the SIL thread.


piramidon if you use 4000k bulbs you may find the girls healthier and not pushing themselves so hard, they grow beautifully in my opinion..
i say this because when you mix different spectrums between the bulbs you can see some parts of the plant suffer and pthers dont because of the spectrum..at least i find that in my experience..
also since i saw a grower daying that he add a bit of epsom salts in every watering and it worked for him, i started doing the same and never had major concerns of calmag, i had some but nothing major and i guess it was mostly because im a newb :D

Good luck with your grows bro

Peace :tiphat:



I remember when you posted the different bulbs that you were considering buying and was questioning which ones to buy.

There were different colors to choose from with the color spectrum graphs for each bulb.


I remember looking at the graphs and noticed that the 4000k bulb has the flatest curve and the most area under the curve.

The larger area meant to me that you may be getting more total light?
 

PCBuds

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f-e
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Good observation Sampas. As an individual light source, the 4000K LED can theoretically be turned up the most.

This is due to the fairly flat output curve. Red and Blue output is fairly even, so both will hit saturation about the same time. At which, the green output will be quite high too.

I'm intent on changing to 4000K.






I wish that I would have purchased only 4000k strips.


My first LED strip purchase was four 5000k two foot strips.

The only real reason that I went with 5000k was because I prefer them for my own vision.
I like cool white.
Warm white looks dark and dingy to me and it's easier to see with cool white.

My next purchase was a bunch of 3500k strips.

I was thinking that I should balance off the cool white with warm white for a better overall spectrum.
(but I didnt want to go right to 3000k because that color sucks.
you might as well light a fukin candle. Lol)



It wasn't until after my purchases that I realized that buying just 4000k strips would have been the best option.

These are the choices of color for my 1 foot strips.



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50E is 5000k
35E is 3500k ect...


This is the color spectrum for the 5000k, 4000K and the 3000k strips.
(they didn't list them all).



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The 3000k is really lacking around 450 nm.
The 5000k is really lacking around 600 nm.

The 4000K is equal at 450 nm and pretty good (maybe better?) at 600 nm.




I wish I would have realized all this before I bought my strips.

I would have bought all 4000K
(but my 3500k should be a nice compromise between 3000k and 4000K?)



Now I want to buy all new 4000K strips.

I've got a bunch of used LED strips for sale if anyone is interested. Lol
 

PCBuds

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Fuk sakes..
Guess who got all juiced up and went on a pruning spree.
Lol


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I found two more...



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I wonder if I will regret this in the morning ? Lol


Ahhh...
She looks OK. Lol


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PCBuds

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There's something wrong with this plant...


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